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Old May 12th 14, 05:44 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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Old May 12th 14, 01:58 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:44:51 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:
If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments?


The title of this article says it all:

Germany: Ukraine Secession Votes Violate Constitution

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...12-703678.html

Any questions?




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Old May 12th 14, 03:02 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:44:51 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:
If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments?


The title of this article says it all:

Germany: Ukraine Secession Votes Violate Constitution

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...12-703678.html

Any questions?
=========================================
Yes, you illiterate dumb**** without any reading comprehension, I have a
question. If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum, how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to
Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine, you ****ing imbecile?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway



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Old May 12th 14, 04:00 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:02:47 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:
wrote in message

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On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:44:51 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:


If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments?


The title of this article says it all:


Germany: Ukraine Secession Votes Violate Constitution


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...12-703678.html


Any questions?


Yes, you illiterate dumb**** without any reading comprehension, I have a
question. If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum, how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to
Western
governments? I call it democracy in action,



Demahcrisy? We got ya demahcrisy right heah! :

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2...n-East-Ukraine
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Old May 12th 14, 05:22 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, May 12, 2014 10:02:47 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:
wrote in message

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On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:44:51 AM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:


If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments?


The title of this article says it all:


Germany: Ukraine Secession Votes Violate Constitution


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...12-703678.html


Any questions?


Yes, you illiterate dumb**** without any reading comprehension, I have a
question. If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum, how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to
Western
governments?

I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine, you ****ing imbecile?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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Old May 13th 14, 12:01 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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the dork wrote:

If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments?


wsnell01 wrote

The title of this article says it all:


Germany: Ukraine Secession Votes Violate Constitution


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...12-703678.html


Any questions?


the dork wrote:

Yes, you illiterate dumb**** without any reading comprehension, I have a
question.
If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum, how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to
Western governments?


You asked a question and you were given a link to an article that answers that question.



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Old May 14th 14, 08:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 05:44:51 +0100, Lord Androcles wrote:

If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway


What's "legal" has no real meaning in geo-politcal matters like this.
Those who have, or can sieze, power - do whatever the hell they want to
do - and with that power comes the ability to define what's legal/legit
- or not..

Occaisionally, transitions can occur without violence - but more often
than not these processed are achieved thru viloence. US Civil War,
American Revolution, Russian Revolution, etc.

The Victors define legal, they write the history, they make the rules...
at least they get to do that until someone comes along to knock them off
their perch... Rinse and repeat.









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Email address is a Spam trap.
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Old May 14th 14, 09:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Bill" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 May 2014 05:44:51 +0100, Lord Androcles wrote:

If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning
a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine?

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway


What's "legal" has no real meaning in geo-politcal matters like this.
Those who have, or can sieze, power - do whatever the hell they want to
do - and with that power comes the ability to define what's legal/legit
- or not..

Occaisionally, transitions can occur without violence - but more often
than not these processed are achieved thru viloence. US Civil War,
American Revolution, Russian Revolution, etc.

The Victors define legal, they write the history, they make the rules...
at least they get to do that until someone comes along to knock them off
their perch... Rinse and repeat.

================================================== =====
Yep, I quite agree. I was targeting wsnelloi and his "natural rights".

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

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Old May 14th 14, 10:31 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:06:22 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2014 05:44:51 +0100, Lord Androcles wrote:


If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big deal
with East and West Ukraine?


What's "legal" has no real meaning in geo-politcal matters like this.


Incorrect. The civilized world sees this "referendum" as illegal according to the Ukrainian constitution. Therefore it is illegal.

Unfortunately for Ukraine, it did not join NATO. The Baltic States did.
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Old May 15th 14, 01:19 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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A clueless moron
wrote in message
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On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:06:22 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2014 05:44:51 +0100, Lord Androcles wrote:


If it is the will of the local people of East Ukraine to hold a
referendum,
how is that an "unofficial" or "illegal" act according to Western
governments? I call it democracy in action, even if they choose to be
Russian, speak Russian and want a Russian way of life. Sudan split in
two,
Czechoslovakia split in two, Ireland split in two, The Scots are
planning a
referendum to get out of the UK and good riddance, so what's the big
deal
with East and West Ukraine?


What's "legal" has no real meaning in geo-politcal matters like this.


Incorrect. The civilized world sees this "referendum" as illegal according
to the Ukrainian constitution. Therefore it is illegal.

Unfortunately for Ukraine, it did not join NATO. The Baltic States did.
================================================== ===========
No need, it's their natural right to join the Russian Federation and you are
the idiot always ranting on about rights.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

 




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