The Wonder of Body Cells... Revisited

On Oct 10, 5:22*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 10, 3:37*am, Painius wrote:









On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 1, 12:03 pm, Painius wrote:
(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Intelligently designed humans and other forms of complex life should
never be created as immortals, unless the evolution of the environment
is terminated or resolved as perfectly balanced and with nowhere else
to go.

Cells have to die and even stop replicating, or else our entire body
would become one nasty enormous blob of exponential cancer consuming
everything and leaving nothing to spare.

That is so true, because even the scientists tell us that they would
probably be able to fix "early" cells (in utero) so that they would
use the same manner that cancer cells use to remain immortal. However,
the longer normal cells live and divide, the more subject they are to
actually becoming cancer cells.

It would make no sense at all to give up mortality only to die of
cancer.

As Blackjack players say when they get the "old soldier" (17), "I'm
beat and can't hit."

That's right on, as 17 can be a very unlucky number. *However, living
a higher quality of life with increased physiological attributed would
be highly desirable.

It's a fascinating idea, to be sure. *I've read that biologists have
isolated the cellular mechanism, which is like a little tail on the
end of the DNA molecule, that dictates whether or not the cell is
immortal, or it will perish after 53 cell divisions.

Each time a cell undergoes the mitotic division, that little tail gets
just a little bit shorter in each of the daughter cells. *When the
tail disappears, the cell divisions are over - they have come to an
end. *Cancer cells, on the other hand, can divide and divide and
divide forever and the DNA tails do not get shorter.

We are right on the edge of discovering how to apply to normal cells
the cancer cell's ability to keep it's DNA tail intact, so that the
normal cells would become immortal and divide into new cells forever.
As I said, the catch is that the older a cell is (in terms of the
number of cell divisions it has taken to get to that cell), the more
prone to becoming a cancer cell it is. *So if the DNA tails of normal
cells are treated so that they will live beyond 53 cell divisions,
they will still have that increased risk of becoming cancerous the
longer they continue to divide.

If a way can be found to significantly decrease the older cells' risk
for cancer, then immortality could be right around the freekin'
corner!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"The important thing is not to stop questioning."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I relate cancer cells to killer bees. *Person that gets cancer is
unlucky,so it falls into the uncertainty principle. It is rare when
cells go uncontroled. * I like to think with structues,but cells with
molecules like ATP.make it impossible fo me. *Just knowing that the
ATP molecule cells use up 80 lb. of it every day((WOW) *Feel the
warmth of your skin. That's your ATP at work. * Yes I know what ATP
stands for,but you can look it up. *Could not spell it, *that's fo
sure. * Well how cells give instuctions has to be amazing. Post that
next time * TeBet

Many humans are more genetically prone to cancer than others, not that
industrial pollution including various typed of radiation and
commercialization of potentially risky chemicals hasn't added to our
risk of getting cancers.

On Oct 10, 9:34*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Oct 10, 5:22*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:





On Oct 10, 3:37*am, Painius wrote:

On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 1, 12:03 pm, Painius wrote:
(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Intelligently designed humans and other forms of complex life should
never be created as immortals, unless the evolution of the environment
is terminated or resolved as perfectly balanced and with nowhere else
to go.

Cells have to die and even stop replicating, or else our entire body
would become one nasty enormous blob of exponential cancer consuming
everything and leaving nothing to spare.

That is so true, because even the scientists tell us that they would
probably be able to fix "early" cells (in utero) so that they would
use the same manner that cancer cells use to remain immortal. However,
the longer normal cells live and divide, the more subject they are to
actually becoming cancer cells.

It would make no sense at all to give up mortality only to die of
cancer.

As Blackjack players say when they get the "old soldier" (17), "I'm
beat and can't hit."

That's right on, as 17 can be a very unlucky number. *However, living
a higher quality of life with increased physiological attributed would
be highly desirable.

It's a fascinating idea, to be sure. *I've read that biologists have
isolated the cellular mechanism, which is like a little tail on the
end of the DNA molecule, that dictates whether or not the cell is
immortal, or it will perish after 53 cell divisions.

Each time a cell undergoes the mitotic division, that little tail gets
just a little bit shorter in each of the daughter cells. *When the
tail disappears, the cell divisions are over - they have come to an
end. *Cancer cells, on the other hand, can divide and divide and
divide forever and the DNA tails do not get shorter.

We are right on the edge of discovering how to apply to normal cells
the cancer cell's ability to keep it's DNA tail intact, so that the
normal cells would become immortal and divide into new cells forever.
As I said, the catch is that the older a cell is (in terms of the
number of cell divisions it has taken to get to that cell), the more
prone to becoming a cancer cell it is. *So if the DNA tails of normal
cells are treated so that they will live beyond 53 cell divisions,
they will still have that increased risk of becoming cancerous the
longer they continue to divide.

If a way can be found to significantly decrease the older cells' risk
for cancer, then immortality could be right around the freekin'
corner!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"The important thing is not to stop questioning."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I relate cancer cells to killer bees. *Person that gets cancer is
unlucky,so it falls into the uncertainty principle. It is rare when
cells go uncontroled. * I like to think with structues,but cells with
molecules like ATP.make it impossible fo me. *Just knowing that the
ATP molecule cells use up 80 lb. of it every day((WOW) *Feel the
warmth of your skin. That's your ATP at work. * Yes I know what ATP
stands for,but you can look it up. *Could not spell it, *that's fo
sure. * Well how cells give instuctions has to be amazing. Post that
next time * TeBet

Many humans are more genetically prone to cancer than others, not that
industrial pollution including various typed of radiation and
commercialization of potentially risky chemicals hasn't added to our
risk of getting cancers.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Progress Energy is know to give lung cancer to children. Breathing in
dirty coal smoke is like their smoking 7 cigs from the first day they
are born. Yet Progress Energy has CNN telling us that burning coal is
saving America Get the picture TreBert

On Oct 10, 12:18*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 10, 9:34*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Oct 10, 5:22*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 10, 3:37*am, Painius wrote:

On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 1, 12:03 pm, Painius wrote:
(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal.. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Intelligently designed humans and other forms of complex life should
never be created as immortals, unless the evolution of the environment
is terminated or resolved as perfectly balanced and with nowhere else
to go.

Cells have to die and even stop replicating, or else our entire body
would become one nasty enormous blob of exponential cancer consuming
everything and leaving nothing to spare.

That is so true, because even the scientists tell us that they would
probably be able to fix "early" cells (in utero) so that they would
use the same manner that cancer cells use to remain immortal. However,
the longer normal cells live and divide, the more subject they are to
actually becoming cancer cells.

It would make no sense at all to give up mortality only to die of
cancer.

As Blackjack players say when they get the "old soldier" (17), "I'm
beat and can't hit."

That's right on, as 17 can be a very unlucky number. *However, living
a higher quality of life with increased physiological attributed would
be highly desirable.

It's a fascinating idea, to be sure. *I've read that biologists have
isolated the cellular mechanism, which is like a little tail on the
end of the DNA molecule, that dictates whether or not the cell is
immortal, or it will perish after 53 cell divisions.

Each time a cell undergoes the mitotic division, that little tail gets
just a little bit shorter in each of the daughter cells. *When the
tail disappears, the cell divisions are over - they have come to an
end. *Cancer cells, on the other hand, can divide and divide and
divide forever and the DNA tails do not get shorter.

We are right on the edge of discovering how to apply to normal cells
the cancer cell's ability to keep it's DNA tail intact, so that the
normal cells would become immortal and divide into new cells forever.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
wrote:

On Oct 10, 12:08*am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:28*pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:00 am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 4, 4:24 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 5:56 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:03 pm, Painius wrote:

(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Painius Cells keep brain active,and ticky thing is brain cells are
not replaced.They are rebuild. When you eat the cells take out the
nutrients,and carry out the waste. Cancer cells still a great
mYstery. I read nitric acid found in cancer cells is good Hmmm
Robbin has cancer. I keep making her eat lots of MSP. Just think
Painius I'm 85 but on a cellular level Im just a youngster.. TeBet

Liver cells are not replaced. Lots of chaos from cell to cell and
lots of chaos inside. Picture the proteens spinning,and
pulsating,bumping into each other a billion times each secondWOW
Doing 1,000 tasks each second. I relate this to the quantum realm.
TeBet-

I predict the study of "protein" will lead to a cure of 3 types of
cancer. We must give enzymes(this type of protein) much lab work.We
are working in the microscopic realm. I can see proteins like I see
electons. doing the impossible. TeBet-

There are 2OO,OOO different types of protein doing work inside your
body. We have little knowledge on how they work. * I think yeast cells
are the simplest,but it will take a class II to figue out how they can
reproduce. *Well to look better ,feel good 2O *2O vision *I have been
eating lots of MSP. *It has the best effects on brain cells,as shown
in all posts that began 2O years ago when I was 65 * That is the
reality of being a clever out of the box thinker. I can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. I have a theory on all the workings of the
universe. *I know all things. * TeBet

Another thing about cells that has me in complete awe...

Inside each cell in our bodies are hundreds of "mitochondria". *These
are little bacteria-like beings that serve many purposes within our
cells, to include maintaining our energy levels. *The amazing thing
about these "mitos", as I call them, is that they actually possess a
different DNA from our own cells. *They are genetically different
little beings that long ago began to work within our cells for mutual
benefit. *Symbiosis.

How awesome is that?

Well DNA exists to create more DNA. DNA strand is 6 feet long and
squeezed into almost every cell.(WOW) *DNA has some 3,2 billion
letters of code.This makes possible combinations unbelievable,or one
followed by 3 billion zeros(WOW) *Our body loves to make DNA(could not
live without it) and yet it is not alive. Hmmm * DNA is a molecule,and
molecules are unalive. *Fact is its one of the leading cmemically
inert molecules in the world of the living.Yet we have to think of it
as the key(heart) of life itself. *How amazing is this? * TreBert

Very, Bert, *very* amazing!

It makes one wonder just where does life truly "begin" or "take hold"?
The least living things appear to be the viruses, and perhaps the
least of these, the "retrovirus", like the AIDS virus, HIV. *No DNA,
just RNA, and it is said by some biologists that retroviruses are on
the very edge of life - not quite "alive" by normal standards, but not
quite "not alive", either.

They can't really live on their own for very long. *They need a host
cell in which to thrive and multiply. *Then they tend to multiply to
the point of bursting the host cell. *Now they are a hoard off into
the environment to look for more host cells.

HIV should be studied until we fully understand life on the threshold.

A hundred million year old spider and its dinner hasn't managed to
perceptively evolve, and yet we humans remain as fighting for our very
lives of deficient evolution through each and every step we take.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/277...r-attack-found
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...ught-in-amber/

Has there ever been any human cells fossilized in amber?

Ed Conrad's "man of coal" that's roughly 250~300 million years old,
should be given a fair trial, instead of his being executed on the
spot like we did to OBL.

Don't know much about cells in amber or Conrad, however I've often
wondered how such fossils come about.

Tree sap moves slowly, and bugs can move pretty fast. Do sap-bearing
trees actually drip huge globs of sap from their branches? It would
then be possible for a glob to fall on a spider and wasp in the
clutches of a life struggle.

Are there other ways for such fossils to come about?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."

On Oct 11, 11:06*am, Painius wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth









wrote:
On Oct 10, 12:08 am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:28 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:00 am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 4, 4:24 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 5:56 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:03 pm, Painius wrote:

(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Painius Cells keep brain active,and ticky thing is brain cells are
not replaced.They are rebuild. When you eat the cells take out the
nutrients,and carry out the waste. Cancer cells still a great
mYstery. I read nitric acid found in cancer cells is good Hmmm
Robbin has cancer. I keep making her eat lots of MSP. Just think
Painius I'm 85 but on a cellular level Im just a youngster.. TeBet

Liver cells are not replaced. Lots of chaos from cell to cell and
lots of chaos inside. Picture the proteens spinning,and
pulsating,bumping into each other a billion times each secondWOW
Doing 1,000 tasks each second. I relate this to the quantum realm.
TeBet-

I predict the study of "protein" will lead to a cure of 3 types of
cancer. We must give enzymes(this type of protein) much lab work..We
are working in the microscopic realm. I can see proteins like I see
electons. doing the impossible. TeBet-

There are 2OO,OOO different types of protein doing work inside your
body. We have little knowledge on how they work. I think yeast cells
are the simplest,but it will take a class II to figue out how they can
reproduce. Well to look better ,feel good 2O 2O vision I have been
eating lots of MSP. It has the best effects on brain cells,as shown
in all posts that began 2O years ago when I was 65 That is the
reality of being a clever out of the box thinker. I can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. I have a theory on all the workings of the
universe. I know all things. TeBet

Another thing about cells that has me in complete awe...

Inside each cell in our bodies are hundreds of "mitochondria". These
are little bacteria-like beings that serve many purposes within our
cells, to include maintaining our energy levels. The amazing thing
about these "mitos", as I call them, is that they actually possess a
different DNA from our own cells. They are genetically different
little beings that long ago began to work within our cells for mutual
benefit. Symbiosis.

How awesome is that?

Well DNA exists to create more DNA. DNA strand is 6 feet long and
squeezed into almost every cell.(WOW) DNA has some 3,2 billion
letters of code.This makes possible combinations unbelievable,or one
followed by 3 billion zeros(WOW) Our body loves to make DNA(could not
live without it) and yet it is not alive. Hmmm DNA is a molecule,and
molecules are unalive. Fact is its one of the leading cmemically
inert molecules in the world of the living.Yet we have to think of it
as the key(heart) of life itself. How amazing is this? TreBert

Very, Bert, *very* amazing!

It makes one wonder just where does life truly "begin" or "take hold"?
The least living things appear to be the viruses, and perhaps the
least of these, the "retrovirus", like the AIDS virus, HIV. No DNA,
just RNA, and it is said by some biologists that retroviruses are on
the very edge of life - not quite "alive" by normal standards, but not
quite "not alive", either.

They can't really live on their own for very long. They need a host
cell in which to thrive and multiply. Then they tend to multiply to
the point of bursting the host cell. Now they are a hoard off into
the environment to look for more host cells.

HIV should be studied until we fully understand life on the threshold.

A hundred million year old spider and its dinner hasn't managed to
perceptively evolve, and yet we humans remain as fighting for our very
lives of deficient evolution through each and every step we take.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/277...year-old-fossi...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...n-year-old-spi...

Has there ever been any human cells fossilized in amber?

Ed Conrad's "man of coal" that's roughly 250~300 million years old,
should be given a fair trial, instead of his being executed on the
spot like we did to OBL.

Don't know much about cells in amber or Conrad, however I've often
wondered how such fossils come about.

Tree sap moves slowly, and bugs can move pretty fast. *Do sap-bearing
trees actually drip huge globs of sap from their branches? *It would
then be possible for a glob to fall on a spider and wasp in the
clutches of a life struggle.

Are there other ways for such fossils to come about?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."

A good forest fire would make tree sap move quickly. I suppose on a
very hot day is when the tree sap can get as thin as pancake syrup.

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
wrote:

On Oct 11, 11:06*am, Painius wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 10, 12:08 am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:28 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:00 am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 4, 4:24 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 5:56 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:03 pm, Painius wrote:

(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Painius Cells keep brain active,and ticky thing is brain cells are
not replaced.They are rebuild. When you eat the cells take out the
nutrients,and carry out the waste. Cancer cells still a great
mYstery. I read nitric acid found in cancer cells is good Hmmm
Robbin has cancer. I keep making her eat lots of MSP. Just think
Painius I'm 85 but on a cellular level Im just a youngster.. TeBet

Liver cells are not replaced. Lots of chaos from cell to cell and
lots of chaos inside. Picture the proteens spinning,and
pulsating,bumping into each other a billion times each secondWOW
Doing 1,000 tasks each second. I relate this to the quantum realm.
TeBet-

I predict the study of "protein" will lead to a cure of 3 types of
cancer. We must give enzymes(this type of protein) much lab work.We
are working in the microscopic realm. I can see proteins like I see
electons. doing the impossible. TeBet-

There are 2OO,OOO different types of protein doing work inside your
body. We have little knowledge on how they work. I think yeast cells
are the simplest,but it will take a class II to figue out how they can
reproduce. Well to look better ,feel good 2O 2O vision I have been
eating lots of MSP. It has the best effects on brain cells,as shown
in all posts that began 2O years ago when I was 65 That is the
reality of being a clever out of the box thinker. I can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. I have a theory on all the workings of the
universe. I know all things. TeBet

Another thing about cells that has me in complete awe...

Inside each cell in our bodies are hundreds of "mitochondria". These
are little bacteria-like beings that serve many purposes within our
cells, to include maintaining our energy levels. The amazing thing
about these "mitos", as I call them, is that they actually possess a
different DNA from our own cells. They are genetically different
little beings that long ago began to work within our cells for mutual
benefit. Symbiosis.

How awesome is that?

Well DNA exists to create more DNA. DNA strand is 6 feet long and
squeezed into almost every cell.(WOW) DNA has some 3,2 billion
letters of code.This makes possible combinations unbelievable,or one
followed by 3 billion zeros(WOW) Our body loves to make DNA(could not
live without it) and yet it is not alive. Hmmm DNA is a molecule,and
molecules are unalive. Fact is its one of the leading cmemically
inert molecules in the world of the living.Yet we have to think of it
as the key(heart) of life itself. How amazing is this? TreBert

Very, Bert, *very* amazing!

It makes one wonder just where does life truly "begin" or "take hold"?
The least living things appear to be the viruses, and perhaps the
least of these, the "retrovirus", like the AIDS virus, HIV. No DNA,
just RNA, and it is said by some biologists that retroviruses are on
the very edge of life - not quite "alive" by normal standards, but not
quite "not alive", either.

They can't really live on their own for very long. They need a host
cell in which to thrive and multiply. Then they tend to multiply to
the point of bursting the host cell. Now they are a hoard off into
the environment to look for more host cells.

HIV should be studied until we fully understand life on the threshold.

A hundred million year old spider and its dinner hasn't managed to
perceptively evolve, and yet we humans remain as fighting for our very
lives of deficient evolution through each and every step we take.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/277...year-old-fossi...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...n-year-old-spi...

Has there ever been any human cells fossilized in amber?

Ed Conrad's "man of coal" that's roughly 250~300 million years old,
should be given a fair trial, instead of his being executed on the
spot like we did to OBL.

Don't know much about cells in amber or Conrad, however I've often
wondered how such fossils come about.

Tree sap moves slowly, and bugs can move pretty fast. *Do sap-bearing
trees actually drip huge globs of sap from their branches? *It would
then be possible for a glob to fall on a spider and wasp in the
clutches of a life struggle.

Are there other ways for such fossils to come about?

A good forest fire would make tree sap move quickly. I suppose on a
very hot day is when the tree sap can get as thin as pancake syrup.

Yes, maybe even just a very hot day. The sunlight against the bark of
a tree for most of the morning or most of the afternoon might make it
warm enough for the sap to ooze more quickly. And as Harlow
suggested, all that has to happen is a touch by the insect and it will
be stuck like flypaper to the sap. The sap continues to cover the
insect, and viola! Several million years later we have an interesting
fossil to discuss!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."

On Oct 13, 8:16*am, Painius wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth









wrote:
On Oct 11, 11:06 am, Painius wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 05:32:55 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 10, 12:08 am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2012 05:56:46 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:28 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 06:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:00 am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 4, 4:24 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 5:56 pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Oct 1, 3:03 pm, Painius wrote:

(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Painius Cells keep brain active,and ticky thing is brain cells are
not replaced.They are rebuild. When you eat the cells take out the
nutrients,and carry out the waste. Cancer cells still a great
mYstery. I read nitric acid found in cancer cells is good Hmmm
Robbin has cancer. I keep making her eat lots of MSP. Just think
Painius I'm 85 but on a cellular level Im just a youngster.. TeBet

Liver cells are not replaced. Lots of chaos from cell to cell and
lots of chaos inside. Picture the proteens spinning,and
pulsating,bumping into each other a billion times each secondWOW
Doing 1,000 tasks each second. I relate this to the quantum realm.
TeBet-

I predict the study of "protein" will lead to a cure of 3 types of
cancer. We must give enzymes(this type of protein) much lab work.We
are working in the microscopic realm. I can see proteins like I see
electons. doing the impossible. TeBet-

There are 2OO,OOO different types of protein doing work inside your
body. We have little knowledge on how they work. I think yeast cells
are the simplest,but it will take a class II to figue out how they can
reproduce. Well to look better ,feel good 2O 2O vision I have been
eating lots of MSP. It has the best effects on brain cells,as shown
in all posts that began 2O years ago when I was 65 That is the
reality of being a clever out of the box thinker. I can see the light
at the end of the tunnel. I have a theory on all the workings of the
universe. I know all things. TeBet

Another thing about cells that has me in complete awe...

Inside each cell in our bodies are hundreds of "mitochondria". These
are little bacteria-like beings that serve many purposes within our
cells, to include maintaining our energy levels. The amazing thing
about these "mitos", as I call them, is that they actually possess a
different DNA from our own cells. They are genetically different
little beings that long ago began to work within our cells for mutual
benefit. Symbiosis.

How awesome is that?

Well DNA exists to create more DNA. DNA strand is 6 feet long and
squeezed into almost every cell.(WOW) DNA has some 3,2 billion
letters of code.This makes possible combinations unbelievable,or one
followed by 3 billion zeros(WOW) Our body loves to make DNA(could not
live without it) and yet it is not alive. Hmmm DNA is a molecule,and
molecules are unalive. Fact is its one of the leading cmemically
inert molecules in the world of the living.Yet we have to think of it
as the key(heart) of life itself. How amazing is this? TreBert

Very, Bert, *very* amazing!

It makes one wonder just where does life truly "begin" or "take hold"?
The least living things appear to be the viruses, and perhaps the
least of these, the "retrovirus", like the AIDS virus, HIV. No DNA,
just RNA, and it is said by some biologists that retroviruses are on
the very edge of life - not quite "alive" by normal standards, but not
quite "not alive", either.

They can't really live on their own for very long. They need a host
cell in which to thrive and multiply. Then they tend to multiply to
the point of bursting the host cell. Now they are a hoard off into
the environment to look for more host cells.

HIV should be studied until we fully understand life on the threshold.

A hundred million year old spider and its dinner hasn't managed to
perceptively evolve, and yet we humans remain as fighting for our very
lives of deficient evolution through each and every step we take.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/277...year-old-fossi....
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-...n-year-old-spi....

Has there ever been any human cells fossilized in amber?

Ed Conrad's "man of coal" that's roughly 250~300 million years old,
should be given a fair trial, instead of his being executed on the
spot like we did to OBL.

Don't know much about cells in amber or Conrad, however I've often
wondered how such fossils come about.

Tree sap moves slowly, and bugs can move pretty fast. Do sap-bearing
trees actually drip huge globs of sap from their branches? It would
then be possible for a glob to fall on a spider and wasp in the
clutches of a life struggle.

Are there other ways for such fossils to come about?

A good forest fire would make tree sap move quickly. *I suppose on a
very hot day is when the tree sap can get as thin as pancake syrup.

Yes, maybe even just a very hot day. *The sunlight against the bark of
a tree for most of the morning or most of the afternoon might make it
warm enough for the sap to ooze more quickly. *And as Harlow
suggested, all that has to happen is a touch by the insect and it will
be stuck like flypaper to the sap. *The sap continues to cover the
insect, and viola! *Several million years later we have an interesting
fossil to discuss!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"You make a living by what you get, you make a life by what you give."

Perhaps that's kinda what trapped Ed Conrad's "man of coal", was an
oily/tarish kind of muck that trapped his 300 million year old human.
No doubt millions of valuable fossils as having been sequestered in
oily/tarish muck that became coal as having been burned up, and no
doubt millions more of the same will go up in nasty carcinogenic,
acidic and even somewhat radioactive smoke.

On Oct 10, 8:22*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 10, 3:37*am, Painius wrote:









On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:20 pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:22:40 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth

wrote:
On Oct 1, 12:03 pm, Painius wrote:
(reposted due to defect of my server)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"

wrote:
All 10,000,000,000,000,0000 of them Each one has the genetic
codeWOW Cells do millions of things for you. They take care of you
from birth till death. Cells take good care of themselves too. Cells
can be clever I think of cancer cells as stupid "confused" Cells
die nomal and some killed. I'm thinking cells this week and will add
m ideas. TeBet Eat lots of MSP fo good health

Something I've wondered about for a long time. A scientist once
showed that most cells are not immortal, that is, they won't keep
dividing into new, daughter cells forever. Cancer cells are now
believed to be an exception; they are believed to be immortal. And
yet normal body cells are not supposed to be immortal. A body cell
will undergo about 53 cell divisions and then stop dividing.

That *is* a lot of cells, of course! After just 40 divisions there
are over a trillion cells. Since each cell division represents a
doubling of cells (there are twice as many as before), by the time we
reach 53 cell divisions there are a whole lot more cells.

Then I think of how, throughout our entire lives, there are body cells
that just keep on dividing, like skin cells, that are constantly being
replaced as old skin cells die off and are blown or rubbed off the
body. Bone marrow cells, which continuously divide and provide new
red blood cells to our circulatory system, are also an example of what
seems to go against the findings of that scientist.

It's an enigma that I still have not been able to resolve.

Any ideas?

Intelligently designed humans and other forms of complex life should
never be created as immortals, unless the evolution of the environment
is terminated or resolved as perfectly balanced and with nowhere else
to go.

Cells have to die and even stop replicating, or else our entire body
would become one nasty enormous blob of exponential cancer consuming
everything and leaving nothing to spare.

That is so true, because even the scientists tell us that they would
probably be able to fix "early" cells (in utero) so that they would
use the same manner that cancer cells use to remain immortal. However,
the longer normal cells live and divide, the more subject they are to
actually becoming cancer cells.

It would make no sense at all to give up mortality only to die of
cancer.

As Blackjack players say when they get the "old soldier" (17), "I'm
beat and can't hit."

That's right on, as 17 can be a very unlucky number. *However, living
a higher quality of life with increased physiological attributed would
be highly desirable.

It's a fascinating idea, to be sure. *I've read that biologists have
isolated the cellular mechanism, which is like a little tail on the
end of the DNA molecule, that dictates whether or not the cell is
immortal, or it will perish after 53 cell divisions.

Each time a cell undergoes the mitotic division, that little tail gets
just a little bit shorter in each of the daughter cells. *When the
tail disappears, the cell divisions are over - they have come to an
end. *Cancer cells, on the other hand, can divide and divide and
divide forever and the DNA tails do not get shorter.

We are right on the edge of discovering how to apply to normal cells
the cancer cell's ability to keep it's DNA tail intact, so that the
normal cells would become immortal and divide into new cells forever.
As I said, the catch is that the older a cell is (in terms of the
number of cell divisions it has taken to get to that cell), the more
prone to becoming a cancer cell it is. *So if the DNA tails of normal
cells are treated so that they will live beyond 53 cell divisions,
they will still have that increased risk of becoming cancerous the
longer they continue to divide.

If a way can be found to significantly decrease the older cells' risk
for cancer, then immortality could be right around the freekin'
corner!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"The important thing is not to stop questioning."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I relate cancer cells to killer bees. *Person that gets cancer is
unlucky,so it falls into the uncertainty principle. It is rare when
cells go uncontroled. * I like to think with structues,but cells with
molecules like ATP.make it impossible fo me. *Just knowing that the
ATP molecule cells use up 80 lb. of it every day((WOW) *Feel the
warmth of your skin. That's your ATP at work. * Yes I know what ATP
stands for,but you can look it up. *Could not spell it, *that's fo
sure. * Well how cells give instuctions has to be amazing. Post that
next time * TeBet

I have a gut feeling old people get cancer because their cell
structure gets screwed up. They are not replacing their body cells
100% right,and thus their body is rejecting them. Labs should look
into this. Its a bad situation when replacement cells get rejected.
Good reason for aging. Another way for the body to kill itself. I'll
call this my "Cells killing cell Theory" Why not TreBert

On 10/24/2012 6:58 PM, G=EMC^2 wrote:

I have a gut feeling old people get cancer because their cell
structure gets screwed up.


More of Painus sounding bull****.














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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:58:32 -0700 (PDT), "G=EMC^2"
wrote:

I have a gut feeling old people get cancer because their cell
structure gets screwed up. They are not replacing their body cells
100% right,and thus their body is rejecting them. Labs should look
into this. Its a bad situation when replacement cells get rejected.
Good reason for aging. Another way for the body to kill itself. I'll
call this my "Cells killing cell Theory" Why not TreBert