Retrograde orbits are now approved (what could possibly go wrong?)

On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:
On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:


On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome....

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers...

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill...

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:









On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist.... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers...

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill...

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-....

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?

On Apr 10, 4:45*pm, Dean wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:

On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist.... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots.... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers...

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill...

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain.... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?

I'm absolutely certain that you really don't give any tinkers damn as
to which satellites run into which, as long as not one cent of the all-
inclusive cost ever comes out of your pocket. In fact, your job
security w/benefits is probably only insured if there are satellites
smashing themselves and other satellites to bits.

After all, those decades of cold-war were totally contrived,
perpetrated and cultivated by both sides, as mutually bogus for
government job security and their military industrial complex
profits. You crazy guys even created North Korea.

http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Apr 11, 1:45*am, Dean wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:

On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist.... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots.... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers...

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill...

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain.... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?


no he doesn't... its because he is a sick Lunatic or shall I a say
Venustic, for our brad... but he remains someone possessed by
demons... the poor souls which only Jesus can save them from their
demoniac possession

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKUAJv4lWI

On Apr 10, 8:18*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:45*pm, Dean wrote:









On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:

On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots.... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers....

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill....

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain.... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?

I'm absolutely certain that you really don't give any tinkers damn as
to which satellites run into which, as long as not one cent of the all-
inclusive cost ever comes out of your pocket. *In fact, your job
security w/benefits is probably only insured if there are satellites
smashing themselves and other satellites to bits.

After all, those decades of cold-war were totally contrived,
perpetrated and cultivated by both sides, as mutually bogus for
government job security and their military industrial complex
profits. *You crazy guys even created North Korea.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

I notice whenever people point out your lies/bull**** that you
immediately turn to a personal attack. And you wonder why you are
nicknamed?

On Apr 10, 9:49*pm, Warhol wrote:
On Apr 11, 1:45*am, Dean wrote:









On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:

On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots.... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers....

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

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they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill....

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain.... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

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No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?

no he doesn't... its because he is a sick Lunatic or shall I a say
Venustic, for our brad... but he remains someone possessed by
demons... the poor souls which only Jesus can save them from their
demoniac possession

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKUAJv4lWI

LOL, well there's the pot calling the kettle black.

On Apr 11, 5:02*am, Dean wrote:
On Apr 10, 8:18*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Apr 10, 4:45*pm, Dean wrote:

On Apr 10, 2:46*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 10, 10:02*am, Dean wrote:

On Apr 9, 3:13*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:37*am, Warhol wrote:

Op 9-4-2012 18:58, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 8:00 am, *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 15:29, Brad Guth schreef:

On Apr 9, 6:05 am, * *wrote:
Op 9-4-2012 3:51, Harold Groot schreef:

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 18:57:26 +0100,
wrote:

"Harold * * *wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:43:38 -0700, * * *wrote:

So, how many satellites are in those retrograde-polar orbits?

*** None ... they are in a Polar Orbit.

Hmmmm... *there could be reasons for a real retrograde orbit. *I'm not
an expert, but I seem to recall that Israel would have to use a
retrograde orbit for any satellites they put up from their own land.
If the launched to the east (in the direction of enemy nations) it
would initially be seen as a missile attack on those nations - and if
the launch was a failure and things came down from the sky on those
nations, even more so. *There could be immediate retaliatory strikes.
So their only reasonable launch path would be to the west over the
Mediterranean Sea, i.e. retrograde.

Of course, maybe they could rent launch facilities from a nation that
had them (some friendly nation with facilities with ocean to the
east). *But in general I don't think Israel would want to be dependent
on other nations for something that would involve their own national
security. *Hitching a ride to the Space Station, sure, not a problem.
But having someone else launch their own spy satellites would be
something quite different. *They might consider the extra cost to
boost in "the wrong direction" well worth it to have everything under
their complete control.

This is correct. Israel's first satellite (Ofeq 1) was launched in September
1988 and its orbit was inclined at 143 degrees to the Equator. All their
satellites since have been placed in similar orbits.

--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Ah, with that name I looked it up at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofeq

It mentions that while all the Ofeq series satellites were launched
from Israel and went west, there were other Israeli satellites (like
the Amos series) that were launched from sites in other nations,
heading east.

Can here in this thread someone proof those satellites exist... please
people only proof of one thing there above would be very welcome...

SO PLEASE ALL STOP TALKING LIKE PARROTS... since none of you can even
proof rockets work in vacuum or satellites are "*flying above*" our
heads watching us... I Defy you all... proof ones in your life time what
you believe in really exist...

Pigsrael has not Satellites or Atomic weapons or any roots... its all
scam...

Now I will await any proof from any one that can proves I am wrong...
but in mean time I call you all parrots, dogs and *******s because you
all repeat words you heard from some liars and deceivers....

http://www.purepirate.com/images/pro...parrot-napkins...

We can't help anyone that doesn't want to be helped.

Just do the math and it'll tell even a dysfunctional Moor that
satellited do exist.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
* *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

they don't... thats why none here can silent me, NASA shill...

the most simple proof you can't provide... rocket technology doesn't
work in vacuum and the needed velocity they never can obtain... so
simple is truth...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Y0ho1NLbA

You Moors still don't understand how a gun or any other explosive
action/reaction works?

No wonder they had to run you Moors out of town. *It was too
embarrassing to keep explaining why you crazy Moors were allowed on
the public streets.

we invented the gun and the canon and the rocket and the missile and
much more toys... keyword is TOYS for kids...

and with toys you don't get to heaven... believe me.

Don't cut yourself short. *There is a viable cannon method that's
capable of getting small payloads into LEO.

http://www.universetoday.com/51532/h...-could-launch-...

*The HLC method certainly has no problems getting protons into orbit
and well beyond (possibly exiting the galaxy if need be).

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

No it is not viable. *It is nothing but SPECULATION. *Do you have
reading difficulties?

Just because you're still not off breast feeding doesn't mean that the
rest of us have to be as retarded and/or a dysfunctional.

Get over yourself.

Warhol has similar though somewhat different problems to those of your
own, except in your case you really don't have an excuse.

You don't like it when your bullsit is recognized, do you?

I'm absolutely certain that you really don't give any tinkers damn as
to which satellites run into which, as long as not one cent of the all-
inclusive cost ever comes out of your pocket. *In fact, your job
security w/benefits is probably only insured if there are satellites
smashing themselves and other satellites to bits.

After all, those decades of cold-war were totally contrived,
perpetrated and cultivated by both sides, as mutually bogus for
government job security and their military industrial complex
profits. *You crazy guys even created North Korea.

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I notice whenever people point out your lies/bull**** that you
immediately turn to a personal attack. *And you wonder why you are
nicknamed?

Because oligarchs and ZNR bully rednecks like yourself always say the
same stupid things, and expect the rest of us as your minions to
accept your words and interpretations of everything, or else.

How is that not like Hitler, GW Bush or Dick Cheney running the show?

So, do tell us, if we shut off all of our spendy satellite tracking
radars and those necessary supercomputers, how long before satellites
start encountering one another?

On 4/11/2012 11:46 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:


Because oligarchs and ZNR bully rednecks like yourself always say the
same stupid things, ...


Speaking of always saying the same stupid things, I think the
following sentence probably covers most Guthballisms:

"The spendy metallicity of our dark lunar carbonado is perfect for
retrograde orbits to Venus L1."


HAHAhahahahaha!


Hey Guth...If 99% of the world thinks you are crazy, doesn't
that de facto MAKE you crazy?







--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

On Apr 11, 5:02*am, Dean wrote:
On Apr 10, 8:18*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

I'm absolutely certain that you really don't give any tinkers damn as
to which satellites run into which, as long as not one cent of the all-
inclusive cost ever comes out of your pocket. *In fact, your job
security w/benefits is probably only insured if there are satellites
smashing themselves and other satellites to bits.

After all, those decades of cold-war were totally contrived,
perpetrated and cultivated by both sides, as mutually bogus for
government job security and their military industrial complex
profits. *You crazy guys even created North Korea.

*http://groups.google.com/groups/search
*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

I notice whenever people point out your lies/bull**** that you
immediately turn to a personal attack. *And you wonder why you are
nicknamed?

Because oligarchs and their ZNR bully rednecks like yourself always
act/react and say the same stupid things, expecting the rest of us as
your personal minions to accept your words and interpretations of
everything, or else. No doubt your parents, grandparents and great
grandparents acted/reacted in exactly the same arrogant and deceitful
ways as yourself and other dysfunctionals that see nothing wrong with
the upper 0.1% caste as oligarchs and their brown-nosed beneficiaries
getting away with murder and essentially hate crimes against humanity
and the environment, as why else would we have had the US Mexican war,
attempted to overthrow Cuba (7 times) or having perpetrated that bogus/
phony cold-war plus having created North Korea?

How is any of that not exactly like Hitler, GW Bush or Dick Cheney
running the show like a faith-based mafia would?

So, do tell us, if we shut off all of our spendy satellite tracking
radars and those necessary supercomputers that have to be kept running
24/7, how long before satellites start encountering one another
(including ISS)?

http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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On 4/11/2012 2:36 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


Because oligarchs and their ZNR bully rednecks like yourself always
act/react and say the same stupid things, expecting the rest of us as
your personal minions to accept your words and interpretations of
everything, or else. No doubt your parents, grandparents and great
grandparents acted/reacted in exactly the same arrogant and deceitful
ways as yourself and other dysfunctionals that see nothing wrong with
the upper 0.1% caste as oligarchs and their brown-nosed beneficiaries
getting away with murder and essentially hate crimes against humanity
and the environment, as why else would we have had the US Mexican war,
attempted to overthrow Cuba (7 times) or having perpetrated that bogus/
phony cold-war plus having created North Korea?

You said the same thing at 11:43 this morning.

Did you have another 'spell'?












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"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo