Climate change facts - even if Santorum does not personally believe

On 3/16/12 7:52 PM, wrote:
On Mar 16, 9:51 am, Sam wrote:
On 3/16/12 5:04 AM, wrote:

If the wamingistas actually believed their own dire predictions, one
would have to assume that they would first take_drastic_ steps to
reduce_their_ own contributions to any damage. However, they seem to
only be concerned with making _other_ people who, individually, are
doing far less "damage" make the sacrifices.

So far that assumption of action is not happening with any
significance.

No worries then.


Outta sight, outta mind.

On Mar 16, 9:21*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/16/12 7:52 PM, wrote:

On Mar 16, 9:51 am, Sam *wrote:
On 3/16/12 5:04 AM, wrote:

If the wamingistas actually believed their own dire predictions, one
would have to assume that they would first take_drastic_ *steps to
reduce_their_ *own contributions to any damage. * However, they seem to
only be concerned with making _other_ people who, individually, are
doing far less "damage" make the sacrifices.

* * So far that assumption of action is not happening with any
* * significance.

No worries then.

* *Outta sight, outta mind.

Outta mind? That's you.

On Mar 16, 9:20*pm, Quadibloc wrote:
On Mar 16, 4:04*am, wrote:

If the wamingistas actually believed their own dire predictions, one
would have to assume that they would first take _drastic_ steps to
reduce _their_ own contributions to any damage.

Why?

Because no rational person will take a blatant hypocrite seriously.

*No* individual's action to reduce his own contributions to the
damage will make a real difference. Only government, reducing
*everybody's* contributions, will make the difference.

The problem is that such forced reductions can never be fair.

When you reduce your own contributions to the damage, you get 100% of
the costs, and 0.000001% of the benefts.

Meanwhile, the warmingistas get 0% of the costs and 100% of the
benefits.

Even so, *plenty* of environmental activists _do_ make tremendous
sacrifices, and have low-consumption lifestyles, so as not to
contribute to the damage themselves, and lead by example.

If that were even remotely true we would see a much greater use of
mass transit, far more bicycles, and far fewer cars and SUVs. There
would have never been such as thing as a Gore or 0bama bumper
sticker. There would not be Gore or 0bama campaign signs in front of
"oversized" mini-mansions.

A few whose duties require them to speak to people frequently at
widely separated locations have to take airplanes a lot,

They don't need to travel as a "duty," they seem to do it for personal
gain.

but if you
think that Al Gore and a few others are the only "warmingistas"
around, you're mistaken.

I see plenty of 0bama bumper stickers attached to "oversized" vehicles
which usually have only one occupant. This is evidence that most, if
not all, of the roughly 50% who vote for warmingistas do not practice
what they preach.

On Mar 17, 11:55*am, whenseless peddled his usual blinkered nonsense;

I see plenty of 0bama bumper stickers attached to "oversized" vehicles
which usually have only one occupant. *This is evidence that most, if
not all, of the roughly 50% who vote for warmingistas do not practice
what they preach.

North America was designed as a low resource competition, externally
subsidised, endlessly expanding, suburban, commuter lifestyle. You
would probably expect the 'warmandmisties' to pray nightly for an
increase in fuel and oil prices. Fortunately we don't need to. The
Chinese and Indian motorists are doing the job for us. Europe could
have done their job several decades earlier. Except that they could
never overcome their national loyalties, political corruption and
backstabbing.

Like all isolated civilisations before it, the US cannot live for long
beyond its means and readily available resources. The vampire trick
only lasts while the victim will willingly sacrifice itself. This only
ever occurred in black and white, B-movies. The world had already
moved on to sharpen its own stakes. For the next attack by the
ambulance-chasing zombies in shiny suits and loud ties.

The power was cut to the USS stability gyros decades ago. In order to
spend the money on armaments instead. It all began to go horribly
wrong when the ship's captain overspent on eradicating communism. Not
to mention, destroying democracies which would not obey the fat,
global, economic dictator. Remember the bananas issue? Or the slave-
produced beef, grazed on clear-felled jungles? Have they been
officially erased from the national memory banks by the US propaganda
ministry with a high latitude dosing of M.Jackson Esq.?

Now, only the flywheel effect is still keeping the US marginally
stable. More out of habit than anything else. Nobody told y'all to
stop going to work as usual. So you still religiously attend the
church of wanton obesity, low education standards and terminal,
prescription drug abuse on your daily commute to pointless careers. To
paddle other people's wealth around a system which creates nothing of
value. You bought into the fanzine which said the celeb culture was
second only to your Disney god. Idle idols have always feasted on the
willing flesh of the poor.

You know what happens to gyros when they begin to lose speed? They
become violently and unpredictably unstable. They may even destroy all
around them in their last, dying, catastrophic moments. Abuse of oil
has fuelled the Islamic terror backlash and will undermine global
stability for decades unless they can be bought off with sacrificial
lambs and real gold AK47s. Abuse of economic power only works when
there are enough bloody, despot's hands outstretched to grab your
cheap baubles and beads. In exchange for their nation's irreplaceable
treasures and protection from natural justice.

Y'all have a nice day, dya'hear? spit :-)

On Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:55:30 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I see plenty of 0bama bumper stickers attached to "oversized" vehicles
which usually have only one occupant. This is evidence that most, if
not all, of the roughly 50% who vote for warmingistas do not practice
what they preach.

I really wonder about your eyesight and hearing. As I recall it was Allan "I was't drummed out of the service" West who complained about how much it cost to fill up his Hummer, Then again you've never been one to let facts interfere with your inability to deal with reality. Please don't give us the stale rancid "Al Gore is fat" line as that has been debunked so many times it would only prove you can only repeat what someonelese told you to say

On Mar 17, 12:01*pm, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:55*am, whenseless peddled his usual blinkered nonsense;



I see plenty of 0bama bumper stickers attached to "oversized" vehicles
which usually have only one occupant. *This is evidence that most, if
not all, of the roughly 50% who vote for warmingistas do not practice
what they preach.

North America was designed as a low resource competition, externally
subsidised, endlessly expanding, suburban, commuter lifestyle. You
would probably expect the 'warmandmisties' to pray nightly for an
increase in fuel and oil prices. Fortunately we don't need to. The
Chinese and Indian motorists are doing the job for us. *Europe could
have done their job several decades earlier. Except that they could
never overcome their national loyalties, political corruption and
backstabbing.

Like all isolated civilisations before it, the US cannot live for long
beyond its means and readily available resources. The vampire trick
only lasts while the victim will willingly sacrifice itself. This only
ever occurred in black and white, B-movies. The world had already
moved on to sharpen its own stakes. For the next attack by the
ambulance-chasing zombies in shiny suits and loud ties.

The power was cut to the USS stability gyros decades ago. In order to
spend the money on armaments instead. It all began to go horribly
wrong when the ship's captain overspent on eradicating communism. Not
to mention, destroying democracies which would not obey the fat,
global, economic dictator. Remember the bananas issue? Or the slave-
produced beef, grazed on clear-felled jungles? Have they been
officially erased from the national memory banks by the US propaganda
ministry with a high latitude dosing of M.Jackson Esq.?

Now, only the flywheel effect is still keeping the US marginally
stable. More out of habit than anything else. Nobody told y'all to
stop going to work as usual. So you still religiously attend the
church of wanton obesity, low education standards and terminal,
prescription drug abuse on your daily commute to pointless careers. To
paddle other people's wealth around a system which creates nothing of
value. You bought into the fanzine which said the celeb culture was
second only to your Disney god. Idle idols have always feasted on the
willing flesh of the poor.

You know what happens to gyros when they begin to lose speed? They
become violently and unpredictably unstable. They may even destroy all
around them in their last, dying, catastrophic moments. Abuse of oil
has fuelled the Islamic terror backlash and will undermine global
stability for decades unless they can be bought off with sacrificial
lambs and real gold AK47s. Abuse of economic power only works when
there are enough bloody, despot's hands outstretched to grab your
cheap baubles and beads. In exchange for their nation's irreplaceable
treasures and protection from natural justice.

Another rant.

What does it have to do with the fact that warmingistas as a group are
doing little or nothing to reduce their carbon footprints?

Y'all have a nice day, dya'hear? *spit :-)

Bless you heart.

On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Another rant.

What does it have to do with the fact that warmingistas as a group are
doing little or nothing to reduce their carbon footprints?

There's no such thing as a "warmingista". It's just another term made
up by science deniers and ignorant right wing manipulators in an
effort to deflect discussion away from rational issues.

When you are unable to appeal to the intellect (or your audience lacks
any intellectual skills), you make up names and appeal to the
emotions. Demagoguery: alive and well in the wingnut right.

On Mar 17, 12:45*pm, wrote:
On Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:55:30 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I see plenty of 0bama bumper stickers attached to "oversized" vehicles
which usually have only one occupant. *This is evidence that most, if
not all, of the roughly 50% who vote for warmingistas do not practice
what they preach.

I really wonder about your eyesight and hearing. As I recall it was Allan "I was't drummed out of the service" West who complained about how much it cost to fill up his Hummer,

AFAIK, he hasn't suggested that I ride the bus, instead of driving a
car (or an H2.) Therefore, Allan West = Not-a- Hypocrite. See how
that works?

Then again you've never been one to let facts interfere with your inability to deal with reality.

You wouldn't know a fact if it came up and bit you in the rump.

Please don't give us the stale rancid "Al Gore is fat" line as that has been debunked so many times it would only prove you can only repeat what someonelese told you to say

Well, since you brought it up, do you mean something like this:

Michelle Malkin » Al Go Go Organic and Eat Less Meat to Save the
Planet ?

or this:

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.c...ed-sex-poodle/
?

Owl Bore is one of the last people who should be giving out
nutritional advice.

On Mar 17, 1:37*pm, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Another rant.

What does it have to do with the fact that warmingistas as a group are
doing little or nothing to reduce their carbon footprints?

There's no such thing as a "warmingista". It's just another term made
up by science deniers and ignorant right wing manipulators in an
effort to deflect discussion away from rational issues.

When you are unable to appeal to the intellect (or your audience lacks
any intellectual skills), you make up names and appeal to the
emotions. Demagoguery: alive and well in the wingnut right.

"Warmingista" emphasizes the political motivations associated with
AGW.

On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:49:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

"Warmingista" emphasizes the political motivations associated with
AGW.

In other words, you're talking about Heartland, Cato, the Republican
Party, all the oil companies, etc. Those are the folks who are
overwhelmingly politicizing AGW.

AGW itself is no more than solid science, on the same level of
certainty as evolution or relativity. It is only in how we deal with
it that rational politics should be involved.