Nuclear energy on its way out.:)

On Jul 13, 11:35*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
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On Jul 12, 2:45*pm, Jeff Findley wrote:
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Japanese were asked what should be done regarding the nation's nuclear
power plants, 2 percent said more nuclear plants should be built.
Twenty-five percent said they are in favor of the status-quo, while 42
percent said the number of plants should be reduced. Twenty-one
percent said all nuclear power plants should be eliminated.

Basing such important decisions on how the population "feels" about
where they get their power is awfully stupid. *Hopefully Japan's leaders
aren't as dumb as the general population.

In any case it will likely take one more nuke plant accident to kill
the entire industry. The companies involved can move to cleaning up
old plants...

You said the same thing repeatedly about the shuttle, now you're crying
because the program is ending! *

I have a feeling the Japanese population will feel differently after
they start to see the death toll caused by lack of air conditioning this
summer due to lack of nuclear power. *We should keep score here. *So
far, zero deaths from radiation. *How many deaths due to the heat so
far?

Jeff

well I never thought the shuttle would end with no future program
underway

Bull! *Your prior posts on the topic essentially boiled down to "end the
shuttle program now". *

As for japan once the cancer rates soar nuke power will be killed.

Doubtful they'll "soar" to that extent. *

Remember the government and power company understated the radiation
lekage and failed to evacuate residents in a timely fashion. there are
still areas to be evacuated.

I expect the current leaders to be brought up on charges once
residents and espically kids start dying, or even getting cancer

Sure, keep on speculating in the same "chicken little" style you have
for years.

Jeff
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some folks here deny how many chernobyl killed , and I was called
chicken little for asking about a shuttle stuck at station right
before the columbia loss...

then nasa decided it should plan for a shuttle stuck at station

Edano: Japan discussing a nuclear-free society

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary says Prime Minister Naoto Kan's
Wednesday announcement will lead to a national discussion on how to
realize a nuclear-free society.

Yukio Edano told reporters on Thursday that most parties are in line
with the view that the nation should reduce its dependency on nuclear
energy in the long run while in the meantime enhancing safety
standards of current plants. He said he believes the view is a
national consensus at this time.

As for the electric power supply, he indicated that restarting nuclear
plants which are now halted for regular inspections is unnecessary, as
nationwide conservation efforts will prevent a power shortage this
summer.

Thursday, July 14, 2011 15:25 +0900 (JST)

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some folks here deny how many chernobyl killed , and I was called
chicken little for asking about a shuttle stuck at station right
before the columbia loss...

We're not denying it you ignorant git, we're saying that Chernobyl used
a reactor design (carbon moderator) that no one else, besides the
Russians, ever used. Even the Russians aren't dumb enough to build
another reactor of that design!

Because Chernobyl was fundamentally different than US, Japanese, and
European reactor designs, you simply cannot point to Chernobyl as an
example of what might happen elsewhere.

then nasa decided it should plan for a shuttle stuck at station

To cover their posterior in the very unlikely event that it should
happen. Few people thought it would ever be necessary, and history has
proven that it wasn't necessary.

Was it worth the extra cost and effort to keep ISS stocked for such a
contingency? I'll give you that much even though one could argue that
there were many other, more important, ways that NASA could have used
the up-mass necessary to bring up the extra food, water, O2, and etc.

It's just as important for every household to have a first aid it, a
working flashlight and battery powered radio, and a source for a few
days of fresh water and food. It's extremely unlikely such an emergency
kit would be needed by everyone, but for the few people who do end up
needing it on occasion (due to flood or other catastrophe), it turns out
that such a kit is very useful.

While it would be ideal for everyone to have a proper "emergency kit"
like I describe, most people don't. They'd be forced to improvise in an
emergency (similar to Apollo 13).

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

On Jul 14, 4:07*am, bob haller wrote:
Edano: Japan discussing a nuclear-free society

Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary says Prime Minister Naoto Kan's
Wednesday announcement will lead to a national discussion on how to
realize a nuclear-free society.

Yukio Edano told reporters on Thursday that most parties are in line
with the view that the nation should reduce its dependency on nuclear
energy in the long run while in the meantime enhancing safety
standards of current plants. He said he believes the view is a
national consensus at this time.

As for the electric power supply, he indicated that restarting nuclear
plants which are now halted for regular inspections is unnecessary, as
nationwide conservation efforts will prevent a power shortage this
summer.

Thursday, July 14, 2011 15:25 +0900 (JST)

That plus the new $1/kwhr rate will seriously reduce energy demand.

The latest 5.0 was getting very close to those reactors again.
Perhaps they need a floating battery of reactors, so that Earthquakes
are not such a big deal, other than cutting power until everything
returns to normal.

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On Jul 15, 12:15*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
rst0wxyz wrote:
On Jul 14, 12:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
rst7 wrote:

Go away, shill.

Is that all you can do?

That's all that's required, shill.

Reality bother you, does it?

Nothing bothers me. I'm retired and just enjoying life.


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"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates

On Jul 15, 12:16*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
rst0wxyz wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:51*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
rst9 wrote:

China is the leader in clean coal technology for quite a while now.
You are talking about something you know nothing about it.

And that's why you can barely cut the air in Beijing with an ax.

Beijing had at least 400 years of accumulated smog.

Air doesn't move in Beijing over durations of centuries? *Who knew?



We are not doing
any better in LA, Phoenix,...

Actually, yeah, we are. *Orders of magnitude better.

Phoenix was covered with dust-storm recently.


--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
*soul with evil."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Socrates

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Jeff Findley wrote:


We're not denying it you ignorant git, we're saying that Chernobyl used
a reactor design (carbon moderator) that no one else, besides the
Russians, ever used. Even the Russians aren't dumb enough to build
another reactor of that design!


That's not quite true. France used to run a number of gas-cooled
graphite moderated reactors. They got rid of them and went to PWRs
because carbon moderators tend to suffer from 'neutron crystallization
and aren't safe in the long term.

I was unaware that France also used a similar design. At least they've
gotten rid of them.

Jeff
--
" Solids are a branch of fireworks, not rocketry. :-) :-) ", Henry
Spencer 1/28/2011

On Jul 15, 11:17*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Which has nothing to do with air pollution, you silly little twit.

A dust-storm has nothing to do with air pollution!!!!
Hummm!!! What is your definition of "air pollution", stupid idiotic
asshole.

On Jul 15, 11:18*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Nothing bothers me. *I'm retired and just enjoying life.

Well, it seems obvious why you were retired. *You're not even a good
shill.

You obviously don't know what "good life" means. You must be living a
slave's life.

On Jul 15, 12:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Nobody used the phrase "good life", you silly little tit. *Tell your
master to give you better direction.

Yeah, it's just SO hard to be me. *Big house. *Fast car. *I just don't
know how I stand it!

Well, like I said;

You have no idea what "good life" is. A braggart like you only has a
big mouth.