Mars Spirit Duracrust Soil Anomalies

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
William Elliot wrote:
Will you answer my question?
No I won't. Answer you own damn questions, these are science newsgroups.

Ok, I'll accept you make incomplete presentations.

Iin other words, don't use scientific methods..

Certainly not you, otherwise you'd wait to include the result of the other
instruments in your euphemistic presentations.

**** you. I that the answer you were looking for?

Sorry Tom, not interested, I'm hetrosexual.

Be a man, help yourself.

I've already got your goat, anything else I should revive you of?
Your obsessions?

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" skrev i en meddelelse
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March 21, 2004

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apparently, glacially deposited fluvials.

Document this postulation.

However,
the soil grain threading and micro patterning is still clearly visible in
some of the
soils

What soil?

here too, and surely, many of the photomicrographs show ordering and
structure
reminiscent of 'prairie soils'.

Document this postulation.

Now, given the context of water, ice and soils on another planet, as these
apparent
pseudo fossils are encountered, they cannot simply be dismissed as
inorganic abiotic
structures,

If you do not use chromatography and find organic matter, or find obvious
clues for fossilized remains, you del with a mineral anorganic surface.

even though this may be entirely possible, they individually have to be
described and demonstrated *not* to be of biogenic origin,

Take a start at the Earth' spherulitic concretions. Noone found clues to a
biogen origin here. Since Earth is a biogen place there may be distant
relations to the genesis. This is not obvious on Mars, but may be
speculated.

I propose that
they will become increasingly more difficult to explain away by abiotic
inorganic
processes, and it will become increasingly apparent that Mars was in the
distant past a
suitable habitat for highly evolved (what here on Earth we refer to as
extremophile)
microscopic life.

I don't think that you needed 50 posts to make that clear

With another planet, with a roughly 24 hour rotation period, abundant
water ice, soil
and solar irradiance, life seems fairly prosaic, making the life debunkers
here seem
particularly odd and out of place,

We oppose your lack of civil communication skills - obvious through numerous
posts.

especially on a science newsgroup. Almost all usenet
science newsgroups have these types, though, they are easy to spot.

You are not, but as I said, your homepage too 'looks like' the real thing.
In a newsgroup for geology 'Physics of condensed matter', skills in
superconductors, PC and extraterrestrial intelligence does not in itself
warrant qualifications for geology nor grant any right for insolence.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:07:20 GMT, Thomas Lee Elifritz
wrote:

With another planet, with a roughly 24 hour rotation period, abundant water ice, soil
and solar irradiance, life seems fairly prosaic, making the life debunkers here seem
particularly odd and out of place, especially on a science newsgroup. Almost all usenet
science newsgroups have these types, though, they are easy to spot.
I thought about that a bit last night, and perhaps we should really
treat the disabled nicely.
For a braindead person recognizing life would likely be impossible.
The same for people who are so conditioned that that they only say
- what they think - their government or bosses want to hear.
And that may not be REALLY what they want:-)
Hopeless situation.

As for the argument that it is some sort of shadow, yes there is one
on the left too, not sure.
I did enlarge to pixels, but that is tricky, as you lose overview.
The fact it sticks out ABOVE the piece of soil behind it, is what
makes it IMO a real ?little plant? :-)
JP

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
March 19, 2004

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the numerous threaded
grains, soil fibers, unusual soil micro patterning and micro
texturing,

Feel free to post an image of your find

that we have now come to expect and love, and even besides
the unusual rounded pebbles

Feel free to post an image of your find

and micro spherules,

Feel free to post an image of your find

there is this small
'stalk' sticking up

Feel free to post an image of your find

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Do you see it?