FR vs. GR and a century of experiments

doug wrote:

[...]

Yes, phil runs away from challenges and so resorts to saying yet more
stupid things.

Doug suddenly ran out of scientific and non-scientific arguments.

On Sep 29, 4:14*pm, Phil Bouchard wrote:
PD wrote:

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And the fact that you will lose means that it is lame?
Anything that doesn't afford you success is lame?

So we both agree FR is right since my version means success.

Um, you just said FR'd lose. Now you say it will succeed.
You don't seem to know what FR will do.

PD wrote:

Um, you just said FR'd lose. Now you say it will succeed.
You don't seem to know what FR will do.

My version relates to the measurements. Yours to its inauguration.

Phil Bouchard wrote:

doug wrote:

[...]

So you just make random statements and you do not care if
they are true or not. That and you willing lying do not
paint a good picture of you as a person.


We all know Doug rather go for 6% chances of being right. That makes
Doug a misleading mentor for most of what he says.

Phil keeps lying.

[...]

The scientific evaluation process is lame because it will never
happen and I will consequently lose.


This is where your cowardice comes in.


If we relate the real poltroon by anonymity scale I think Doug wins the
grand prize hands down.

Yes, phil runs away from challenges and so resorts to saying yet more
stupid things.

Phil Bouchard wrote:

It comes down to this final showdown. FR predicts gravitational time
dilation measurements anywhere in the solar system with infinite
precision and an accuracy limited only by the instruments used.

How does a theory that depends on arbitrary fudge factors that cannot be
predetermined have infinite precision?

Perhaps you ought to find a new hobby.

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eric gisse wrote:

How does a theory that depends on arbitrary fudge factors that cannot be
predetermined have infinite precision?

1) The hard way would consist of using FR's general representation of
the Universe and solve the solar system fudge factor

2) The easy way would be to send a gravity probe towards the Sun and get
samples of gravitational time dilations for each position. We can then
solve the fudge factor accurately enough. Once this is done FR will
return us very accurate predictions of the GPS time dilation for any
season, any time of the day.

There are cheaper methods than sending a gravity probe we could use but
it can be done this way.

Perhaps you ought to find a new hobby.

Perhaps you should be happy somebody somewhere made some efforts.

doug wrote:

What we are seeing is that you are wasting your time.
You should spend some time learning how to program. For instance,
you do not even seem to be able to put legends on a graph. I have
to do occasional work with another programmer who is that stupid
as well.

Doug is right only 6% of the time.

Phil Bouchard wrote:

eric gisse wrote:


How does a theory that depends on arbitrary fudge factors that cannot
be predetermined have infinite precision?


1) The hard way would consist of using FR's general representation of
the Universe and solve the solar system fudge factor

2) The easy way would be to send a gravity probe towards the Sun and get
samples of gravitational time dilations for each position. We can then
solve the fudge factor accurately enough. Once this is done FR will
return us very accurate predictions of the GPS time dilation for any
season, any time of the day.

There are cheaper methods than sending a gravity probe we could use but
it can be done this way.

Perhaps you ought to find a new hobby.


Perhaps you should be happy somebody somewhere made some efforts.

What we are seeing is that you are wasting your time.
You should spend some time learning how to program. For instance,
you do not even seem to be able to put legends on a graph. I have
to do occasional work with another programmer who is that stupid
as well.

Phil Bouchard wrote:

eric gisse wrote:

How does a theory that depends on arbitrary fudge factors that cannot be
predetermined have infinite precision?

1) The hard way would consist of using FR's general representation of
the Universe and solve the solar system fudge factor

Which you haven't done, nor have you sketched how it can be done even in
theory.


2) The easy way would be to send a gravity probe towards the Sun and get
samples of gravitational time dilations for each position. We can then
solve the fudge factor accurately enough. Once this is done FR will
return us very accurate predictions of the GPS time dilation for any
season, any time of the day.

But we already have very accurate predictions that work for any season, any
time of the day.

Apparently "FR", and I say "FR" because I'm trying to signify sarcastic
finger quotes, isn't nearly as successful as you wish it to be if you have
to launch a probe towards the sun to determine something about the EARTH.


There are cheaper methods than sending a gravity probe we could use but
it can be done this way.

Perhaps you ought to find a new hobby.

Perhaps you should be happy somebody somewhere made some efforts.

Phil Bouchard wrote:

doug wrote:

What we are seeing is that you are wasting your time.
You should spend some time learning how to program. For instance,
you do not even seem to be able to put legends on a graph. I have
to do occasional work with another programmer who is that stupid
as well.

Doug is right only 6% of the time.

He's certainly on a streak for only being right 6% of the time.

At least learn to use gnuplot so your graphs aren't nearly as professionally
embarrassing.