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This time rumors more than just rumors?:
http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...next_admi.html Meanwhile, Griffin does the "nothing to see here...move along" dance: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...n_no_huma.html Pat |
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![]() "Pat Flannery" wrote in message lephone... This time rumors more than just rumors?: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...next_admi.html Meanwhile, Griffin does the "nothing to see here...move along" dance: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...n_no_huma.html Pat This is what Griffin said..... "The goals have to remain in place for longer than a presidential administration or a session of Congress if you are to get anything out of the space program." This is what he [should] have said...... "The goals have to [provide a substantial reason to exist] for longer than a presidential administration or a session of Congress....." I mean setting goals aint rocket science. The Vision suffers from the same basic fault as the ISS. We decided to build it first, then left figuring out what to do with it to ....later. "Have Faith"! They say, the benefits and discoveries will f l o w l i k e w i n e somehow someday if we just go and built it. The 'promises of microgravitry' and all that crap with the ISS, now those 'Magic Moon Minerals" ...helium 3 just lying everywhere all over the place "Just think of all those cheap fusion reactors we can build on the .....freakin' moon."! Fusion reactors on the....freakin' moon. Come on! Fusion....the pipe-dream of all pipe-dreams. A pipe-dream that is, thinking we can manage to build one ....on Earth. But the Moon....that'll be easy....they say, cheap and plentiful...they said. Much easier then building them on Earth! Do they have any bridges to sell too? They sounded like shady real estate salesman back when they were pitching the ISS. With the Vision they sound even worse if that's possible. "It's our destiny"! They finally say! I prefer the Blind Faith of religion to some poorly conjured 'Destiny' any day of the week! Unfortunately, our manned space program is relying firmly on...both. Sheez! NASA: We want to spend Eleventy Billion dollars and Fifty Years to build a moon and mars base. Public: And then what? NASA: Huh? "You can't seriously expect us to see that far into the future"? Our nation's single most visible and prestigious /scientific/ project of all leaving it's ultimate success or failure to 'A M a t t e r o f F a i t h' with two-bit salesmen preaching our future. Sometimes I just can't believe these things are really happening. I mean, if this was a Hollywood script...I wouldn't buy it for a second. Jonathan s |
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On May 15, 6:51*pm, "Jonathan" wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message lephone... This time rumors more than just rumors?: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...next_admi.html Meanwhile, Griffin does the "nothing to see here...move along" dance: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...n_no_huma.html Pat This is what Griffin said..... "The goals have to remain in place for longer than a presidential administration or a session of Congress if you are to get anything out of the space program." This is what he [should] have said...... "The goals have to [provide a substantial reason to exist] for longer than a presidential administration or a session of Congress....." I mean setting goals aint rocket science. The Vision suffers from the same basic fault as the ISS. We decided to build it first, then left figuring out what to do with it to ....later. *"Have Faith"! *They say, the benefits and discoveries will * f l o w *l i k e *w i n e * somehow someday if we just go and built it. The 'promises of microgravitry' and all that crap with the ISS, now those 'Magic Moon Minerals" ...helium 3 just lying everywhere all over the place "Just think of all those cheap fusion reactors we can build on the ....freakin' moon."! Fusion reactors on the....freakin' moon. *Come on! Fusion....the pipe-dream of all pipe-dreams. A pipe-dream that is, thinking we can manage to build one ....on Earth. But the Moon....that'll be easy....they say, cheap and plentiful...they said. Much easier then building them on Earth! Do they have any bridges to sell too? They sounded like shady real estate salesman back when they were pitching the ISS. With the Vision they sound even worse if that's possible. "It's our destiny"! *They finally say! *I prefer the Blind Faith of religion to some poorly conjured 'Destiny' any day of the week! Unfortunately, our manned space program is relying firmly on...both. Sheez! NASA: * *We want to spend Eleventy Billion dollars and Fifty Years to * * * * * * * * build a moon and mars base. Public: * * And then what? NASA: * *Huh? *"You can't seriously expect us to see that far into the future"? Our nation's single most visible and prestigious /scientific/ project of all leaving it's ultimate success or failure to * 'A *M a t t e r *o f * F a i t h' with two-bit salesmen preaching our future. Sometimes I just can't believe these things are really happening. I mean, if this was a Hollywood script...I wouldn't buy it for a second. Jonathan And yet you and far too many others think we've walked on the moon. Try to imagine that as a Hollywood script, if you will, and would you buy it? How about your buying into a Hollywood script pertaining to the planet Venus? ~ BG |
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![]() "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 15, 6:51 pm, "Jonathan" wrote: "Pat Flannery" wrote in message Sometimes I just can't believe these things are really happening. I mean, if this was a Hollywood script...I wouldn't buy it for a second. Jonathan And yet you and far too many others think we've walked on the moon. Try to imagine that as a Hollywood script, if you will, and would you buy it? Faking it would have cost far more money, with much greater risk. I mean the ruskies would love nothing better than expose a fake. Why didn't they? If the answer is 'we're just that good'...well then we're good enough to actually do it. How about your buying into a Hollywood script pertaining to the planet Venus? Haven't heard anything good enough yet~ ~ BG |
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On May 17, 8:26*am, "Jonathan" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 15, 6:51 pm, "Jonathan" wrote: "Pat Flannery" wrote in message Sometimes I just can't believe these things are really happening. I mean, if this was a Hollywood script...I wouldn't buy it for a second. Jonathan And yet you and far too many others think we've walked on the moon. Try to imagine that as a Hollywood script, if you will, and would you buy it? Faking it would have cost far more money, with much greater risk. I mean the ruskies would love nothing better than expose a fake. Why didn't they? If the answer is 'we're just that good'...well then we're good enough to actually do it. In other words, you've still got absolutely nothing except the Old Testament version of your Apollo Qur'an. btw, it still takes two to tango, especially on behalf of any mutual ruse/sting of crimes against humanity. Are you still suggesting that governments and their faith-based puppet masters are always honest? How about your buying into a Hollywood script pertaining to the planet Venus? Haven't heard anything good enough yet~ I'll be glad to offer the script. However, I've got nothing that'll fly for the blind and incurably dumbfounded kind of closed mindset. Are you always opposed to the regular laws of physics, and otherwise willing to obfuscate the best available science? ~ BG |
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![]() "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On May 17, 8:26 am, "Jonathan" wrote: Are you still suggesting that governments and their faith-based puppet masters are always honest? It's the future that matters. Changing the past is easy, just ask any dictator. |
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If it is Bolden, wouldn't he be only the second former Astronaut to get the
job? Dick Truly was the first IIRC. "Pat Flannery" wrote in message lephone... This time rumors more than just rumors?: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...next_admi.html Meanwhile, Griffin does the "nothing to see here...move along" dance: http://www.nasawatch.com/archives/20...n_no_huma.html Pat |
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"Matt Wiser" writes:
If it is Bolden, wouldn't he be only the second former Astronaut to get the job? Dick Truly was the first IIRC. To Boldenly go where NASA has never gone before! No, we really and Truly mean it! ;-) Dave |
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![]() David Spain wrote: To Boldenly go where NASA has never gone before! No, we really and Truly mean it! Don't get smart-ass, son...that's my job. I was getting smart-ass back when you were sucking on your mother's tit at Woodstock. BTW...have you ever considered the advantages of being a smart-ass with _Extensible Adamantine Steel Claws_? It changes the whole smart-ass equation. We should talk. ;-) Pat* (The Astounding X-Flan) * Magneto - "What's your _real_ name, Pat?" "Goosebump... I can raise goosebumps over my entire body at will." Magneto - "You are a aphid among insects, Goosebump. Get the hell out of here right now." ;-) |
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Pat Flannery writes:
David Spain wrote: To Boldenly go where NASA has never gone before! No, we really and Truly mean it! Don't get smart-ass, son...that's my job. Sorry, it was late, I'd been up most of the night before, I just couldn't help myself. I'm sure you know what that's like! ;-) I was getting smart-ass back when you were sucking on your mother's tit at Woodstock. You'd have to go a bit further back than then, unfortunately..... BTW...have you ever considered the advantages of being a smart-ass with _Extensible Adamantine Steel Claws_? It changes the whole smart-ass equation. We should talk. ;-) Could have used those today, had to replace the chain on my chain saw today and I still got a bunch of fallen trees in the backyard to cut up. Still recovering from an ice storm back in December... Can I get those on Craig's list? Pat* (The Astounding X-Flan) Dave (The not-so-astounding X-Phlegm (pollen and sawdust))... BTW: While we're on the subject, attended the new Star Trek movie tonight with my 10 year old. I liked it, he hated it. There's hope for him yet.... PPS: Where do they get crevasse's like that in Iowa? Talk about erosion problems, they really need to consider no-till farming... (Formerly from an 'I' state myself...) |
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