Hot Rocks of Venus that are looking intelligent

Usenet: rec.photo.digital
Thanks again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for having posted
another link to this updated page of Venus images.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting of AI information can be found within
image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite
frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the
robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus',
of which you folks should apply your own PhotoShop resampling/
enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter
plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply.
Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster
simply can not accomplish such enlargements without making whatever
image look worse off than it really is. (go figure)
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

If you still can not find this rational community worth of extremely
interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at
observationology as you think you are.

Digital photo resampling or enlarging with various pixel interpolation
algorithms are not new nor unused by our NIMA and multiple other spy
and commercial photo agencies. The sorts of freeware or trialware
such as PhotoCleaner, PhotoZoom and CleanerZoomer are just examples
that'll perform as well or better than ADOBE PhotoShop, are each
sufficiently user friendly and as always allows for user options in
order to suit the kinds of results that'll yield the best possible
enlargement without introducing weird distortions or artifacts out of
thin air(sort of speak).

http://www.photocleaner.com
PhotoCleaner w/multiple resize algorithms and automatic unsharp

http://www.benvista.com/main/content...otozoompro_ 1
http://www.benvista.com/main/content...page=downloads
PhotoZoom Pro w/S-Spline XL interpolation algorithm enlarging

CleanerZoomer
http://www.stratopoint.com/czoomer.htm
Of course the digital radar image of 36 looks per pixel is somewhat
better to begin with, as nearly 3D worthy and each raw pixel being
about as real or as truth worthy of pixel as we're going to get, which
sort of makes up for the 225 meter per pixel resolution that's being
enlarged for a better look-see at whatever's most likely associated
with those raw pixels.

http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...-restoration1/
"Red Fox, image from Figure 3 after photoshop unsharp mask, radius =
4.0, 75%, threshold = 3, then another unsharp mask with radius = 2.0,
66%, threshold = 3. This is a about the best I can do with the unsharp
mask tool"

As you can see for yourself, between ADOBE PhotoShop and Adaptive
Richardson-Lucy Iteration there's nothing getting artificially
generated via enlarge/resampling and unsharp applications that created
weird pixels out of nowhere. As long as the raw pixel patterns were
there to behold in the first place, there's nothing that gets software
AI or otherwise created weird in the enlarged images that's
indifferent to whatever those original pixels represent. Of course
with the likes of PhotoShop is where any damn village idiot fool can
just as easily force the original image into distorting everything in
sight, which only proves that such a result can be accomplished if
that's the intended objective.

However, most folks within Usenet's anti-think-tank of naysayland
should as IggyZiggy says, have that word "obfuscate" tattooed to their
forehead, as they quite often intend to live, breathe, eat, and
worship that mostly semitic God of obfuscation by using word games,
something their Third Reich and the likes of our very own resident
LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and of his puppeteer Dick Cheney are really
good at obfuscating the hell out of most everything.

So, when I've asked of others to share and share alike, as to
providing their own best effort examples of the image pertaining to
Venus that I'd pointed out as of nearly 8 years ago, lo and behold the
brown-nosed obfuscation clowns of Usenet's naysayland kicked into full
topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment action, whit all of
their usual gauntlet of evidence exclusion so as to not rock their
mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP status quo that's clearly more semitic
faith based than not.

We need to take a very close look at Venus, as for giving this
extremely nearby planet proper consideration on behalf of other
intelligent life that once upon a time having been and by rights may
even still be existing/coexisting within that geothermally forced
environment, of their having survived within such a newish worth of
active planetology that not exactly user friendly to the likes of us
naked humans. I'm certainly not speaking of the dumbfounded sorts of
naked humans without a clue other than their terrestrial limited faith-
based analogy towards everything, but rather of either locally evolved
and/or new and improved species as having been imported intelligent
life, that's simply utilizing applied physics and obviously good
technology that's taking the fullest advantage of their applied
physics and local cache of such vast amounts of renewable energy.

There's no argument that Venus in most surface locations is nearly hot
as hell, however, if you can constructively contribute a little
something of image processing, or otherwise on behalf of explaining
the sorts of physics and applied technology that'll function within
such a thermal dynamic worth of planetology, that'll actually survive
within the regular laws of physics (such as the process of the local
makings and sustaining ice), is exactly what I'd appreciate and give
the fullest of credit for whatever talent or expertise you'd care to
share.
--
Brad Guth

Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
that's getting itself geothermally forced from the bottom up, although
having a POOF City as our interplanetary depot/gateway at Venus L2 is
more than a touch on the cool side. However, if we can't even manage
a mostly robotic Clarke Station within our moon's interactive L1, much
less of anything moon tethered, then even the extremely nearby worth
of the halo orbital energy efficient and much lower gamma radiation
location of our utilizing Venus L2 is never going to happen.

From what's officially offered to us as purely in-house or via
minionship endorsed evidence, I still do not believe that we've
returned safely from having walked on that moon, as there's just way
too many easy enough methods of proof-positive that could and should
have been employed, that would have 100+% nailed that question as an
easily replicated matter of fact, as well as easily accommodated via
computer simulated orbital 3D interactive physics, that is if we in
fact had ever down-range soft landed and having walked on that dusty
moon 6 times w/o so much as a DNA scratch.

So, we'll need that new and improved fleet of Barack Obama shuttles,
along with those fully reusable LRBs, that which at most becomes a
50/50 kind of public/private investment, and that's going to happen w/
o our infamous NASA because, like so much of our old guard cold-war
government that's intent upon global energy domination, it seems they
and of their semitic puppeteers simply can not be trusted with our
hard earned loot or our private parts. So, it's past due for a fresh
start, that is if we can somehow manage to avoid WWIII.

Ponder your way through this one:
A few of us outsiders have been and/or become sufficiently correct
about our naked moon that seems somewhat hollow or at least light
headed (as possibly having a mostly sodium core), in that much of our
terrestrial physics and replicated science that relates to those
spendy fly-by-rocket Apollo missions, and about our reactive/
anticathode moon that's so physically dark, that simply doesn't add up
according to that holy grail of our NASA/Apollo Old Testament.

If we'd landed upon and collectively (US+USSR) having left 171 tonnes
of our mostly metallic crap on that moon, much of it physically
sizable or having become unavoidably impact scattered over a km+
radius (unless that surface debris and dust at impact was simply too
damn thick), whereas you'd think most any GB-SAR obtained image is
unavoidably going to look in places as somewhat like a seriously lit
up Christmas tree parked in the center of an open pit coal mine.

I believe that somewhat old radar imaging resolution via Arecibo is
actually worthy of 20 meters/pixel, and having so much as an empty
beer can within any one of those 20 by 20 meter pixels is in fact
going to light up that given GB-SAR pixel by pixel observation quite
nicely, especially when all of that crystal dry cosmic debris as moon
dust that's surrounding that empty beer can is hardly anything but
radar signal reflective.

Sadly, not even God or those of his/her minion wizards can help the
likes of our MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA's Usenet cesspool of infowar/infomercial
spewing spooks and moles, or so many brown-nosed others of their
pretend atheist kind. Of course otherwise those terrestrial smart
brown-nosed folks of the all-knowing mainstream status quo or bust
(aka Skull and Bones semitic Third Reich) could have always used any
one of those true to life virtual simulations via any number of public
owned supercomputers in order to easily prove myself wrong, though
they've all had nearly 8 years and counting with less than zero/zilch
worth of favorable results so far.

I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

BTW, remote PC/mouse tampering is a federal offence (pretty hard to
miss the per cession "Error Console" reporting and such loss of mouse/
cursor control as so often happening), and yet in spite of this
mainstream of damage-control gauntlet, I've just posted another topic
"To Tell the Truth" for all the warm and fuzzy enjoyment of those
diehard naysayers and brown-nosed minions of the mainstream status
quo, not unlike most others within Usenet.
- Brad Guth


On Nov 24, 11:24 am, BradGuth wrote:
Usenet: rec.photo.digital
Thanks again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for having posted
another link to this updated page ofVenusimages.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting of AI information can be found within
image No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite
frame of such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the
robust, rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTHVenus',
of which you folks should apply your own PhotoShop resampling/
enlargement of at least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter
plus other image cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply.
Remember that a purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster
simply can not accomplish such enlargements without making whatever
image look worse off than it really is. (go figure)
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles,Venusfrom Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

If you still can not find this rational community worth of extremely
interesting pixels, then you are not nearly as good at
observationology as you think you are.

Digital photo resampling or enlarging with various pixel interpolation
algorithms are not new nor unused by our NIMA and multiple other spy
and commercial photo agencies. The sorts of freeware or trialware
such as PhotoCleaner, PhotoZoom and CleanerZoomer are just examples
that'll perform as well or better than ADOBE PhotoShop, are each
sufficiently user friendly and as always allows for user options in
order to suit the kinds of results that'll yield the best possible
enlargement without introducing weird distortions or artifacts out of
thin air(sort of speak).

http://www.photocleaner.com
PhotoCleaner w/multiple resize algorithms and automatic unsharp

http://www.benvista.com/main/content...page=downloads
PhotoZoom Pro w/S-Spline XL interpolation algorithm enlarging

CleanerZoomerhttp://www.stratopoint.com/czoomer.htm
Of course the digital radar image of 36 looks per pixel is somewhat
better to begin with, as nearly 3D worthy and each raw pixel being
about as real or as truth worthy of pixel as we're going to get, which
sort of makes up for the 225 meter per pixel resolution that's being
enlarged for a better look-see at whatever's most likely associated
with those raw pixels.

http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...-restoration1/
"Red Fox, image from Figure 3 after photoshop unsharp mask, radius =
4.0, 75%, threshold = 3, then another unsharp mask with radius = 2.0,
66%, threshold = 3. This is a about the best I can do with the unsharp
mask tool"

As you can see for yourself, between ADOBE PhotoShop and Adaptive
Richardson-Lucy Iteration there's nothing getting artificially
generated via enlarge/resampling and unsharp applications that created
weird pixels out of nowhere. As long as the raw pixel patterns were
there to behold in the first place, there's nothing that gets software
AI or otherwise created weird in the enlarged images that's
indifferent to whatever those original pixels represent. Of course
with the likes of PhotoShop is where any damn village idiot fool can
just as easily force the original image into distorting everything in
sight, which only proves that such a result can be accomplished if
that's the intended objective.

However, most folks within Usenet's anti-think-tank of naysayland
should as IggyZiggy says, have that word "obfuscate" tattooed to their
forehead, as they quite often intend to live, breathe, eat, and
worship that mostly semitic God of obfuscation by using word games,
something their Third Reich and the likes of our very own resident
LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) and of his puppeteer Dick Cheney are really
good at obfuscating the hell out of most everything.

So, when I've asked of others to share and share alike, as to
providing their own best effort examples of the image pertaining toVenusthat I'd pointed out as of nearly 8 years ago, lo and behold the
brown-nosed obfuscation clowns of Usenet's naysayland kicked into full
topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment action, whit all of
their usual gauntlet of evidence exclusion so as to not rock their
mainstream good ship LOLLIPOP status quo that's clearly more semitic
faith based than not.

We need to take a very close look atVenus, as for giving this
extremely nearby planet proper consideration on behalf of other
intelligent life that once upon a time having been and by rights may
even still be existing/coexisting within that geothermally forced
environment, of their having survived within such a newish worth of
active planetology that not exactly user friendly to the likes of us
naked humans. I'm certainly not speaking of the dumbfounded sorts of
naked humans without a clue other than their terrestrial limited faith-
based analogy towards everything, but rather of either locally evolved
and/or new and improved species as having been imported intelligent
life, that's simply utilizing applied physics and obviously good
technology that's taking the fullest advantage of their applied
physics and local cache of such vast amounts of renewable energy.

There's no argument thatVenusin most surface locations is nearly hot
as hell, however, if you can constructively contribute a little
something of image processing, or otherwise on behalf of explaining
the sorts of physics and applied technology that'll function within
such a thermal dynamic worth of planetology, that'll actually survive
within the regular laws of physics (such as the process of the local
makings and sustaining ice), is exactly what I'd appreciate and give
the fullest of credit for whatever talent or expertise you'd care to
share.
--
Brad Guth

On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
[snip]
I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be.


Regards,

Steve

--
( I've got to hold my train of thought, here, and not get off on some sick,
twisted tangent that will blow any hope of a book deal with a publisher
that doesn't sell off of the back of a pickup truck in the sleazy part of
town )

On Dec 5, 2:32 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
[snip]
I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be.

Regards,

Steve

Wow, are you knocking our socks off today, with such all-knowing
physics and science expertise. Can't you even try to hold something
back?
- Brad Guth

On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 02:43:00PM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 5, 2:32 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
[snip]
I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be.

Regards,

Steve

Wow, are you knocking our socks off today, with such all-knowing
physics and science expertise. Can't you even try to hold something
back?
- Brad Guth

Won't you get lost and darken my doorknob no longer?


Regards,

Steve

--
( I've got to hold my train of thought, here, and not get off on some sick,
twisted tangent that will blow any hope of a book deal with a publisher
that doesn't sell off of the back of a pickup truck in the sleazy part of
town )

Venus has only been a little geothermal Ovglove toasty to the human
touch, but of nothing our applied physics and well proven science
can't deal with, including the co2--co/o2 process that'll allow us
mere humans to breath, along with enough Reverse Stirling as a local
habitat cooling process for the task of keeping our beer icy cold and
our private parts just right.

I have few doubts that as of once upon a time those sufficiently smart
ET's (as possibly from that mostly fresh water little swamp of Mars)
did manage to accomplish a real number on us, as they pillaged and
raped mother Earth for all she's worth, leaving us with the mere dregs
and tailings of whatever remained that they didn't wish to bother
with.

Though instead of their arriving from that somewhat iffy Mars
environment, I'm thinking along the what-if lines of their having
arrived out of the red giant phase era of that nearby Sirius star/
solar system, that might have unavoidably donated one of their icy
Oort cloud protomoons and perhaps even having donated the likes of
Venus from otherwise getting itself summarily nailed into Sirius A or
B.

Just because we've been given officially given the finger by our own
NASA/Apollo team of such semitic wizards as having pulled off that
grand ruse/sting of such a nifty perpetrated cold-war and moon hoax
landing, as such doesn't mean that we should forget about our
extremely massive and nearby moon, or that we should ignore Venus
simply because other intelligent life has already accomplished their
using of that somewhat newish and thus toasty planet.
- Brad Guth


BradGuth wrote:
Venus has only been a little geothermal Ovglove toasty to the human
touch, but of nothing our applied physics and well proven science
can't deal with, including the co2--co/o2 process that'll allow us
mere humans to breath, along with enough Reverse Stirling as a local
habitat cooling process for the task of keeping our beer icy cold and
our private parts just right.

I have few doubts that as of once upon a time those sufficiently smart
ET's (as possibly from that mostly fresh water little swamp of Mars)
did manage to accomplish a real number on us, as they pillaged and
raped mother Earth for all she's worth, leaving us with the mere dregs
and tailings of whatever remained that they didn't wish to bother
with.

Though instead of their arriving from that somewhat iffy Mars
environment, I'm thinking along the what-if lines of their having
arrived out of the red giant phase era of that nearby Sirius star/
solar system, that might have unavoidably donated one of their icy
Oort cloud protomoons and perhaps even having donated the likes of
Venus from otherwise getting itself summarily nailed into Sirius A or
B.

Perhaps after these god like ETs having sucked Earth dry(sort of
speak) they'd moved on to Venus where there were much fewer if any
locals to enslave, but otherwise having nearly unlimited natural
mineral resources as well as for having unlimited local energy for the
task of processing whatever on behalf of creating most anything they'd
care to do.

Would you folks like to see for yourself, as to what a really big and
impressive Venus style tarmac and adjoining community of rational
infrastructure looks like?

Are you folks still with me?
- Brad Guth


On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:
Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

To tell the truth, there is simply no question as to the orchestrated
efforts by those in charge of our private parts, towards sustaining
their official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated faith-based conspiracy of those in charge of keeping
various lids on tight, such as their having been rejecting everything
outside of their NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough nuts
with any regard to our moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated,
and it's only getting worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of
our moon's L1, and otherwise God forbid ever using Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset, such as via
uplink.space.com and of most all the essential Usenet and media worthy
groups, are very much included within the scope of this often faith-
based conspiracy to defraud upon physics and science integrity, often
by way of merely banishing those they elect to black-ball or by way of
excluding evidence, with the clear intent of their focus as to insure
only their side of any given argument/rant gets any official credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives whatever public attention
and funding. We also have to include an honorable mention as to those
folks of pretend atheism, mostly because of their swarm like actions
being so unusually Old Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult
like imposed upon blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions
of most any kind, especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders
suggesting their God, creator or puppet warlord had anything
whatsoever to do with any other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of such a brown-nosed clownism
infested infowar and disinformation tactic is certainly not new or
exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their Skull and Bones cult of
peers, but it's certainly having been put to the full test each and
every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of any
subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such notions would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans, as having managed
to survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is perfectly doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat
primitive Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world
places. So, we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian
locals of purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability
of complex DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to
exist, as even here on Earth where such highly complex life has been
surviving for millions of years longer than humanity, and within the
most dreadful of places impossible for us humans to survive in the
buff is the well accepted norm.

BTW, I'd started ranting about the use of a CO2 HVAC/refrigeration
system within the Venus toasty environment as of 8 years ago and
counting (except w/o the "H" because only cooling is required), and to
think that it wasn't even my idea to start with since CO2
refrigeration had been well established by others as of a good century
before. Essentially a Stirling thermal conversion process of such CO2
refrigeration is all it takes, and otherwise via conventional
compressor there's obviously no shortage of dry CO2 or the local
energy that's fully renewable while on Venus.

So, don't even bother to kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or
imposed against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the
mostly faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we are not the
bad guys here.
.. - Brad Guth


On Dec 8 2007, 1:02 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Venus has only been a little geothermal Ovglove toasty to the human
touch, but of nothing our applied physics and well proven science
can't deal with, including the co2--co/o2 process that'll allow us
mere humans to breath, along with enough Reverse Stirling as a local
habitat cooling process for the task of keeping our beer icy cold and
our private parts just right.

I have few doubts that as of once upon a time those sufficiently smart
ET's (as possibly from that mostly fresh water little swamp of Mars)
did manage to accomplish a real number on us, as they pillaged and
raped mother Earth for all she's worth, leaving us with the mere dregs
and tailings of whatever remained that they didn't wish to bother
with.

Though instead of their arriving from that somewhat iffy Mars
environment, I'm thinking along the what-if lines of their having
arrived out of the red giant phase era of that nearby Sirius star/
solar system, that might have unavoidably donated one of their icy
Oort cloud protomoons and perhaps even having donated the likes of
Venus from otherwise getting itself summarily nailed into Sirius A or
B.

Perhaps after these god like ETs having sucked Earth dry(sort of
speak) they'd moved on to Venus where there were much fewer if any
locals to enslave, but otherwise having nearly unlimited natural
mineral resources as well as for having unlimited local energy for the
task of processing whatever on behalf of creating most anything they'd
care to do.

Would you folks like to see for yourself, as to what a really big and
impressive Venus style tarmac and adjoining community of rational
infrastructure looks like?

Are you folks still with me?
- Brad Guth

On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:

Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:
Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htmlhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

If you have a working eye and so much as half a brain (unless it's
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return), you can see
for yourself.
- Brad Guth

On Dec 17, 7:57 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:

Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as being so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1" http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

If you have a working eye and so much as half a brain (unless it's
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return), you can see
this intelligent set of patterns for yourself.

Apparently, besides your being as smart as a 5th grader, you'll also
need at least half a working brain in order to perceive upon what's so
entirely obvious about Venus that's so unusually intelligent looking,
exactly as though smart ETs or possibly locals had managed in a very
substantial way to modify more than their fair share of those hot
rocks.
- Brad Guth