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  #21  
Old July 1st 07, 04:15 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.skeptic,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask
for?

Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour
cycle too little?

Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered
CMs that's insurmountable?

What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become
better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more
moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and
otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced
friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a
slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma
radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon?
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-BradGuth


Ignoring or otherwise banishing the notions of relocating of our moon
to Earth's L1 is not exactly a good option, as eventually our sun is
going to start pushing us outward, along with Venus, our moon and
other most other planets migrating further out, as likely surviving in
spite of ourselves that'll have burned out every last drop and tonne
of fossil and yellowcake fuels as of billions of years before our
orbital demise. The planet Mercury isn't likely going to survive no
matters how much of our resources or applied astrophysics comes to its
rescue.

I somewhat agree with the likes of Christine(CRxx), that we're but a
single specimen among millions of other interesting specks of complex
life, many of which having survived millions if not a good billion
years longer than us, as clearly far better at their survival and even
better at having retained nifty physical attributes than us humans,
but there's also new stuff of DNA arriving all the time, and thusfar
we haven't nailed down a clue as to connecting our frail DNA dots to
those early robust proto-humanity dots of DNA that supposedly had to
have included many of those somewhat nifty and robust survival
attributes, especially if we'd emerged as though our DNA only having
originated upon this 98.5% fluid planet of such an extremely salty,
wet and/or at times mostly frozen surface because, at the time it
simply didn't have its moon or even the full benefit of our sun that
apparently was not quite up to snuff.

It's as though our complex yet extremely frail DNA arrived out of
nowhere. Either that or perhaps some nifty creation or at least
intelligent design effort having kicked into high gear, in order to
terraform this planet.

Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing/coexisting on Venus
managed in the same way, except without their having any of that pesky
surface ice or salty oceans to deal with. Instead, only global
cooling is the ongoing threat to Venus.

In our case, we've clearly lost track of some of the absolute best DNA
code around, and any trace of such is simply nowhere in sight.
Meaning that either we didn't originate here, or that most other
complex life (much of which surviving where we humans simply can not)
got imported into our terrestrial zoo. Either way it represents that
other complex and most likely including intelligent other life has
existed off-world.

The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset,
as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often
than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm
taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a
newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of
intelligent other life.
-
Brad Guth

  #22  
Old July 1st 07, 05:31 PM posted to sci.skeptic,sci.astro,alt.usenet.kooks
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"John "C"" wrote in message
et...

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
BradGuth wrote:

Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's
naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even
"Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our
moon's L1.

Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too
much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those
Zions in charge of our private parts.
-
Brad Guth

I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern.


Old men and their cars are a lot alike!

Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap!

HJ


I'm all for relocating his DeSoto, as long as he's in it ...


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Old July 1st 07, 07:16 PM posted to sci.skeptic,sci.astro,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.astronomy
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Hagar wrote:

"John "C"" wrote in message
news:q6idnbFPaZijphrbnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@centurytel. net...

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
BradGuth wrote:

Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's
naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even
"Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our
moon's L1.

Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too
much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those
Zions in charge of our private parts.
-
Brad Guth

I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern.


Old men and their cars are a lot alike!

Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap!

HJ


I'm all for relocating his DeSoto, as long as he's in it ...


Hush, bad doggies! Learn to not pee on the carpets, or its back to the
pound for both of youse.

--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco

"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"
  #24  
Old July 1st 07, 09:59 PM posted to sci.skeptic,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,alt.usenet.kooks
Art Deco[_6_]
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

BradGuth wrote:

The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset,
as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often
than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm
taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a
newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of
intelligent other life.


Translation from Venusian: "No one takes me seriously on usenet,
therefore all my whacky ideas are correct."

--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco

"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"
  #25  
Old July 1st 07, 10:02 PM posted to sci.skeptic,sci.astro,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.astronomy
Art Deco[_6_]
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Default 1949 Deco DeSoto....on blocks....

BradGuth wrote:

On Jun 30, 10:24 pm, "John \"C\"" wrote:
"Art Deco" wrote in message

...

BradGuth wrote:


Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's
naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even
"Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our
moon's L1.


Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too
much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those
Zions in charge of our private parts.
-
BradGuth


I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern.


Old men and their cars are a lot alike!

Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap!

HJ


Putting Art Deco's "1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1" would at least be a
start in the right direction, with only 7.35e22 kg to go.

BTW, why did you feel the need as to alter the topic entro from
"What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's
L1"?


Clockbrain is a frothing, gay-laming, bigoted kook, Vern, you two
should get along famously. Be sure to ask him about his feelings for
Native Americans.

--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco

"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"
  #26  
Old July 2nd 07, 12:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.skeptic,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

On Jul 1, 8:15 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:





Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask
for?


Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour
cycle too little?


Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered
CMs that's insurmountable?


What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become
better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more
moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and
otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced
friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a
slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma
radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon?
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-BradGuth


Ignoring or otherwise banishing the notions of relocating of our moon
to Earth's L1 is not exactly a good option, as eventually our sun is
going to start pushing us outward, along with Venus, our moon and
other most other planets migrating further out, as likely surviving in
spite of ourselves that'll have burned out every last drop and tonne
of fossil and yellowcake fuels as of billions of years before our
orbital demise. The planet Mercury isn't likely going to survive no
matters how much of our resources or applied astrophysics comes to its
rescue.

I somewhat agree with the likes of Christine(CRxx), that we're but a
single specimen among millions of other interesting specks of complex
life, many of which having survived millions if not a good billion
years longer than us, as clearly far better at their survival and even
better at having retained nifty physical attributes than us humans,
but there's also new stuff of DNA arriving all the time, and thusfar
we haven't nailed down a clue as to connecting our frail DNA dots to
those early robust proto-humanity dots of DNA that supposedly had to
have included many of those somewhat nifty and robust survival
attributes, especially if we'd emerged as though our DNA only having
originated upon this 98.5% fluid planet of such an extremely salty,
wet and/or at times mostly frozen surface because, at the time it
simply didn't have its moon or even the full benefit of our sun that
apparently was not quite up to snuff.

It's as though our complex yet extremely frail DNA arrived out of
nowhere. Either that or perhaps some nifty creation or at least
intelligent design effort having kicked into high gear, in order to
terraform this planet.

Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing/coexisting on Venus
managed in the same way, except without their having any of that pesky
surface ice or salty oceans to deal with. Instead, only global
cooling is the ongoing threat to Venus.

In our case, we've clearly lost track of some of the absolute best DNA
code around, and any trace of such is simply nowhere in sight.
Meaning that either we didn't originate here, or that most other
complex life (much of which surviving where we humans simply can not)
got imported into our terrestrial zoo. Either way it represents that
other complex and most likely including intelligent other life has
existed off-world.

The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset,
as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often
than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm
taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a
newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of
intelligent other life.
-BradGuth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And as per rusemaster usual, we have more of the same old Art Deco
"alt.usenet.kooks" swarm of flatulance, as Zion intellectual butt-
flapping damage control.
-
Brad Guth

  #27  
Old July 2nd 07, 01:45 AM posted to sci.skeptic,sci.astro,alt.usenet.kooks
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 1, 8:15 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:


Screaming for attention again, pathetic.

And as per rusemaster usual, we have more of the same old Art Deco


*ding*

"alt.usenet.kooks" swarm of flatulance, as Zion intellectual butt-
flapping damage control.


Just more kookfroth.

--
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy
Trainer and leash holder of:
Honest "Clockbrain" John
nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco

"You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco."
--Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something"
  #28  
Old July 2nd 07, 05:43 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.skeptic,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

If this pathetic anti-think-tank of a Zion Usenet was any more naysay,
I believe it would become a cosmic black hole. For some weird GOOGLE/
NOVA reason, my posting of this following context didn't take, even
though my having received their Usenet official message that it did
get through.
-

We need to relocate our moon to Earth's L1, and the sooner the better
because, just isolating 3.5% worth of solar influx isn't necessarily
good enough.

In addition to our solar forced tides and Earth's rotation that's
continually adding solar tidal forced energy into our world, there's
Earth's salty old moon that is in fact extremely nearby, and by all
measure and comparison of other moons it's also an absolutely
impressive mascon in ratio to the mass of Earth, as it's moving along
its nearby orbit about our 98.5% fluid Earth fairly quickly. Derived
from all of this nearby mascon that's in orbit of Earth causes a great
deal of unavoidable friction inside and out, and you simply can't have
such ongoing frictions without such causing heat (mostly from the
inside out).

Thus far, there is no replicated science that has this planet along
with any moon as of 13,000 some odd years ago. In fact, there's also
no replicated scientific indications of Earth having such an extensive
seasonal tilt either.

Gravity and subsequent tidal induced planetology heating goes along
with the natural happenstance or intelligent terraforming game plan,
of forcing Earth to essentially thaw out from the very last
interstellar forced ice age this planet will ever get to experience.
Now all that we'll have to worry about (besides WWIII, WWIV and WWV)
is the eventual instellar warming trend as our solar system continues
to migrate towards the nearby gravity influence of other stars.

Basically, we're situated a little too far from our sun, and if Earth
were without moon is when we'd become extensively iced over, and if
also having somewhat less seasonal tilt is when we'd be dealing with
even greater amounts of such ice. If this planet were w/o moon and
rotating at half of its current 24 hour cycle is when there'd be
nearly continual ice sheet coverage all the way into the tropics of
Cancer/Capricorn, along with nighttime frost existing at the equator.

The slower a planet rotates, the more solar forced extremes of surface
temperatures should exist. Whereas, if Earth were spinning 24 times
faster, there's be hardly any surface temperature difference between
day or night.

Our solar system is associated with a few nearby stars that are
essentially in control of our local interstellar orbit. The 225
million year cycle of the Milky Way itself is yet another reality
check of what's gradually affecting our local environment, that's in
addition to whatever's being humanly contributed.

Galaxies and the Expanding Universe / Structure of Milky Way
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36827

Hipparcos data links
"Tales of a thousand and one nights: Past and future of the Milky
Way"
http://www.aanda.org/index.php?optio... d=42&lang=en

http://www.edpsciences.org/journal/i...iv3=PR20030959
http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html
"The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the
Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The
movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of
the Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe
them today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white
curve." (take notice of what's happening closest to us)

The force of gravity is still as always in charge of most everything
that matters, and otherwise it seems photons are in charge of most
everything else. Atoms are just representing our bag of spare marbles
for the likes of gravity and of photons to play with. Without either
the force of gravity or the required interactions of photons (these
could be one in the same), all the spare marbles as atoms within the
universe wouldn't matter for other than the collective bond of such
marbles, whereas even that degree of collective bond would not
materialize into anything unless our DNA swarm like code(s) of honor
was in charge of each and every marble, and to always remember that
the core of our cosmic existance has one hell of a lot more of them
spare marbles than all the rest of us combined, plus having the
necessary cosmic DNA codes of those essential photons and of the force
of gravity to boot.

Just because the Usenet swarm intelligence of such naysayism has been
telling us lies upon lies, whereas it simply can not exclude or
otherwise nullify those regular laws of physics, nor can this
typically infomercial driven gauntlet of such faith-based nonsense
continually exclude or otherwise banish the best available evidence of
other complex intelligent life. Superior intelligence equals
surviving, and for the most part we humans are clearly not very good
at our having survived thus far, along with some of our DNA's
evolution MIA and/or going into the nearest crapper, especially when
certain plants and other species of complex life have been clearly
better at mutation adapting than us.

Terribly sorry about all that deductive interpretation of mine, as
similar to my pesky discovery of other intelligent life existing/
coexisting on Venus.
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth

  #29  
Old July 2nd 07, 06:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.skeptic,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1

We need to accomplish a whole lot more than merely contemplate the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, and the sooner the better
because, just isolating 3.0~3.5% worth of solar influx isn't
necessarily good enough.

In addition to our solar forced tides via Earth's rotation that's
continually adding solar tidal forced energy into our environment,
there's Earth's salty old moon that is in fact extremely nearby, and
by all measure and comparison of other moons it's also an absolutely
impressive mascon in ratio to the mass of Earth, as it's moving along
its nearby orbit about our 98.5% fluid Earth fairly quickly. Derived
from all of this nearby mascon that's in orbit of Earth causes a great
deal of unavoidable friction inside and out, and you simply can't have
such ongoing frictions without such causing heat (mostly from the
inside out).

Thus far, there is no replicated science that has this planet along
with any moon as of 13,000 some odd years ago. In fact, there's also
no replicated scientific indications of Earth having such an extensive
seasonal tilt either.

Gravity and subsequent tidal induced planetology heating goes along
with the natural happenstance or intelligent terraforming game plan,
of forcing Earth to essentially thaw out from the very last
interstellar forced ice age this planet will ever get to experience.
Now all that we'll have to worry about (besides surviving WWIII, WWIV
and WWV) is the eventual interstellar warming trend as our solar
system continues to migrate towards the nearby gravity influence of
other stars, plus that of our badly failing magnetosphere that could
summarily nullify our frail DNA beyond the point of no return.

Basically, we're situated a little too far from our sun, and if Earth
were without moon is when we'd become extensively iced over, and if
also having somewhat less seasonal tilt is when we'd be dealing with
even greater amounts of such ice. If this planet were w/o moon and
rotating at half of its current 24 hour cycle is when there'd be
nearly continual ice sheet coverage all the way into the tropics of
Cancer/Capricorn, along with nighttime frost existing at the equator.

The slower a planet rotates, the more solar forced extremes of surface
temperatures should exist. Whereas, if Earth were spinning 24 times
faster, there'd become hardly any surface temperature difference
between day or night.

Our solar system is associated with a few nearby stars that are
essentially in control of our local interstellar orbit. The 225
million year cycle of the Milky Way itself is yet another reality
check of what's gradually affecting our local environment, that's in
addition to whatever's being humanly contributed.

Galaxies and the Expanding Universe / Structure of Milky Way
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36827

Hipparcos data links
"Tales of a thousand and one nights: Past and future of the Milky
Way"
http://www.aanda.org/index.php?optio... d=42&lang=en

http://www.edpsciences.org/journal/i...iv3=PR20030959
http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html
"The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the
Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The
movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of
the Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe
them today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white
curve." (take notice of what's happening closest to us)

The force of gravity is still as always in charge of most everything
that matters, and otherwise it seems photons are in charge of most
everything else. Atoms are just representing our bag of spare marbles
for the likes of gravity and of photons to play with. Without either
the force of gravity or the required interactions of photons (these
could be one in the same), all the spare marbles as atoms within the
universe wouldn't matter for other than the collective bond of such
marbles, whereas even that degree of collective bond would not
materialize into anything unless our DNA swarm like code(s) of honor
was in charge of each and every marble, and to always remember that
the core of our cosmic existance has one hell of a lot more of them
spare marbles than all the rest of us combined, plus having the
necessary cosmic DNA codes of those essential photons and of the force
of gravity to boot.

Just because the Usenet swarm intelligence of such naysayism has been
telling us lies upon lies, whereas it simply can not exclude or
otherwise nullify those regular laws of physics, nor can this
typically infomercial driven gauntlet of such faith-based nonsense
continually exclude or otherwise banish the best available evidence of
other complex intelligent life. Superior intelligence equals
surviving, and for the most part we humans are clearly not very good
at our having survived thus far, along with some of our DNA's
evolution MIA and/or going into the nearest crapper, especially when
certain plants and other species of complex life have been clearly
better at mutation adapting than us.

Terribly sorry about all that deductive interpretation of mine, as
similar to my pesky discovery of other intelligent life existing/
coexisting on Venus.
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth

  #30  
Old July 7th 07, 05:07 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.skeptic,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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Silly usenet swarm of naysayism, stricks yet another dumbfounded blow
on behalf of butt protecting their Zion mainstream status quo.

God forbid, wouldn't want to involve the regular laws of physics or
any of those pesky items of scientific evidence.
-
Brad Guth



On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask
for?

Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour
cycle too little?

Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered
CMs that's insurmountable?

What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become
better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more
moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and
otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced
friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a
slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma
radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon?
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth



 




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