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On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask for? Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour cycle too little? Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered CMs that's insurmountable? What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon? - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell -BradGuth Ignoring or otherwise banishing the notions of relocating of our moon to Earth's L1 is not exactly a good option, as eventually our sun is going to start pushing us outward, along with Venus, our moon and other most other planets migrating further out, as likely surviving in spite of ourselves that'll have burned out every last drop and tonne of fossil and yellowcake fuels as of billions of years before our orbital demise. The planet Mercury isn't likely going to survive no matters how much of our resources or applied astrophysics comes to its rescue. I somewhat agree with the likes of Christine(CRxx), that we're but a single specimen among millions of other interesting specks of complex life, many of which having survived millions if not a good billion years longer than us, as clearly far better at their survival and even better at having retained nifty physical attributes than us humans, but there's also new stuff of DNA arriving all the time, and thusfar we haven't nailed down a clue as to connecting our frail DNA dots to those early robust proto-humanity dots of DNA that supposedly had to have included many of those somewhat nifty and robust survival attributes, especially if we'd emerged as though our DNA only having originated upon this 98.5% fluid planet of such an extremely salty, wet and/or at times mostly frozen surface because, at the time it simply didn't have its moon or even the full benefit of our sun that apparently was not quite up to snuff. It's as though our complex yet extremely frail DNA arrived out of nowhere. Either that or perhaps some nifty creation or at least intelligent design effort having kicked into high gear, in order to terraform this planet. Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing/coexisting on Venus managed in the same way, except without their having any of that pesky surface ice or salty oceans to deal with. Instead, only global cooling is the ongoing threat to Venus. In our case, we've clearly lost track of some of the absolute best DNA code around, and any trace of such is simply nowhere in sight. Meaning that either we didn't originate here, or that most other complex life (much of which surviving where we humans simply can not) got imported into our terrestrial zoo. Either way it represents that other complex and most likely including intelligent other life has existed off-world. The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset, as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of intelligent other life. - Brad Guth |
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![]() "John "C"" wrote in message et... "Art Deco" wrote in message ... BradGuth wrote: Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even "Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our moon's L1. Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those Zions in charge of our private parts. - Brad Guth I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern. Old men and their cars are a lot alike! Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap! HJ I'm all for relocating his DeSoto, as long as he's in it ... |
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Hagar wrote:
"John "C"" wrote in message news:q6idnbFPaZijphrbnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@centurytel. net... "Art Deco" wrote in message ... BradGuth wrote: Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even "Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our moon's L1. Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those Zions in charge of our private parts. - Brad Guth I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern. Old men and their cars are a lot alike! Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap! HJ I'm all for relocating his DeSoto, as long as he's in it ... Hush, bad doggies! Learn to not pee on the carpets, or its back to the pound for both of youse. -- Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy Trainer and leash holder of: Honest "Clockbrain" John nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco "You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco." --Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something" |
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BradGuth wrote:
The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset, as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of intelligent other life. Translation from Venusian: "No one takes me seriously on usenet, therefore all my whacky ideas are correct." -- Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy Trainer and leash holder of: Honest "Clockbrain" John nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco "You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco." --Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something" |
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BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:24 pm, "John \"C\"" wrote: "Art Deco" wrote in message ... BradGuth wrote: Apparently the whole truth is simply too much for our Usenet's naysayism swarm intelligence to deal with, so much so that even "Clarke Station" is off-limits, as is anything else utilizing our moon's L1. Relocating our salty old moon off to Earth's L1 is just imposing too much of a good thing that would simply benefit other than just those Zions in charge of our private parts. - BradGuth I'm for relocating a 1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1, Vern. Old men and their cars are a lot alike! Damn, Deco you're almost 60, KKKrap! HJ Putting Art Deco's "1949 DeSoto to Earth's L1" would at least be a start in the right direction, with only 7.35e22 kg to go. BTW, why did you feel the need as to alter the topic entro from "What's not technically positive about relocating our moon to Earth's L1"? Clockbrain is a frothing, gay-laming, bigoted kook, Vern, you two should get along famously. Be sure to ask him about his feelings for Native Americans. -- Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy Trainer and leash holder of: Honest "Clockbrain" John nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco "You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco." --Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something" |
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On Jul 1, 8:15 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask for? Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour cycle too little? Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered CMs that's insurmountable? What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon? - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell -BradGuth Ignoring or otherwise banishing the notions of relocating of our moon to Earth's L1 is not exactly a good option, as eventually our sun is going to start pushing us outward, along with Venus, our moon and other most other planets migrating further out, as likely surviving in spite of ourselves that'll have burned out every last drop and tonne of fossil and yellowcake fuels as of billions of years before our orbital demise. The planet Mercury isn't likely going to survive no matters how much of our resources or applied astrophysics comes to its rescue. I somewhat agree with the likes of Christine(CRxx), that we're but a single specimen among millions of other interesting specks of complex life, many of which having survived millions if not a good billion years longer than us, as clearly far better at their survival and even better at having retained nifty physical attributes than us humans, but there's also new stuff of DNA arriving all the time, and thusfar we haven't nailed down a clue as to connecting our frail DNA dots to those early robust proto-humanity dots of DNA that supposedly had to have included many of those somewhat nifty and robust survival attributes, especially if we'd emerged as though our DNA only having originated upon this 98.5% fluid planet of such an extremely salty, wet and/or at times mostly frozen surface because, at the time it simply didn't have its moon or even the full benefit of our sun that apparently was not quite up to snuff. It's as though our complex yet extremely frail DNA arrived out of nowhere. Either that or perhaps some nifty creation or at least intelligent design effort having kicked into high gear, in order to terraform this planet. Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing/coexisting on Venus managed in the same way, except without their having any of that pesky surface ice or salty oceans to deal with. Instead, only global cooling is the ongoing threat to Venus. In our case, we've clearly lost track of some of the absolute best DNA code around, and any trace of such is simply nowhere in sight. Meaning that either we didn't originate here, or that most other complex life (much of which surviving where we humans simply can not) got imported into our terrestrial zoo. Either way it represents that other complex and most likely including intelligent other life has existed off-world. The anti-ET or off-world naysayism of this Zion Usenet swarm mindset, as such is simply proof positive that others and I'm right more often than not, which further explains as to why all of their ongoing swarm taboo/nondisclosure mindset about our salty old moon and that of a newish Venus that offers those clear observationology indications of intelligent other life. -BradGuth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And as per rusemaster usual, we have more of the same old Art Deco "alt.usenet.kooks" swarm of flatulance, as Zion intellectual butt- flapping damage control. - Brad Guth |
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BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 1, 8:15 am, BradGuth wrote: On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: Screaming for attention again, pathetic. And as per rusemaster usual, we have more of the same old Art Deco *ding* "alt.usenet.kooks" swarm of flatulance, as Zion intellectual butt- flapping damage control. Just more kookfroth. -- Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads for alt.astronomy Trainer and leash holder of: Honest "Clockbrain" John nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy http://www.caballista.org/auk/kookle.php?search=deco "You really are one of the litsiest people I know, Mr. Deco." --Kali, quoted endlessly by David Tholen as evidence of "something" |
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If this pathetic anti-think-tank of a Zion Usenet was any more naysay,
I believe it would become a cosmic black hole. For some weird GOOGLE/ NOVA reason, my posting of this following context didn't take, even though my having received their Usenet official message that it did get through. - We need to relocate our moon to Earth's L1, and the sooner the better because, just isolating 3.5% worth of solar influx isn't necessarily good enough. In addition to our solar forced tides and Earth's rotation that's continually adding solar tidal forced energy into our world, there's Earth's salty old moon that is in fact extremely nearby, and by all measure and comparison of other moons it's also an absolutely impressive mascon in ratio to the mass of Earth, as it's moving along its nearby orbit about our 98.5% fluid Earth fairly quickly. Derived from all of this nearby mascon that's in orbit of Earth causes a great deal of unavoidable friction inside and out, and you simply can't have such ongoing frictions without such causing heat (mostly from the inside out). Thus far, there is no replicated science that has this planet along with any moon as of 13,000 some odd years ago. In fact, there's also no replicated scientific indications of Earth having such an extensive seasonal tilt either. Gravity and subsequent tidal induced planetology heating goes along with the natural happenstance or intelligent terraforming game plan, of forcing Earth to essentially thaw out from the very last interstellar forced ice age this planet will ever get to experience. Now all that we'll have to worry about (besides WWIII, WWIV and WWV) is the eventual instellar warming trend as our solar system continues to migrate towards the nearby gravity influence of other stars. Basically, we're situated a little too far from our sun, and if Earth were without moon is when we'd become extensively iced over, and if also having somewhat less seasonal tilt is when we'd be dealing with even greater amounts of such ice. If this planet were w/o moon and rotating at half of its current 24 hour cycle is when there'd be nearly continual ice sheet coverage all the way into the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn, along with nighttime frost existing at the equator. The slower a planet rotates, the more solar forced extremes of surface temperatures should exist. Whereas, if Earth were spinning 24 times faster, there's be hardly any surface temperature difference between day or night. Our solar system is associated with a few nearby stars that are essentially in control of our local interstellar orbit. The 225 million year cycle of the Milky Way itself is yet another reality check of what's gradually affecting our local environment, that's in addition to whatever's being humanly contributed. Galaxies and the Expanding Universe / Structure of Milky Way http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36827 Hipparcos data links "Tales of a thousand and one nights: Past and future of the Milky Way" http://www.aanda.org/index.php?optio... d=42&lang=en http://www.edpsciences.org/journal/i...iv3=PR20030959 http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html "The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of the Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe them today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white curve." (take notice of what's happening closest to us) The force of gravity is still as always in charge of most everything that matters, and otherwise it seems photons are in charge of most everything else. Atoms are just representing our bag of spare marbles for the likes of gravity and of photons to play with. Without either the force of gravity or the required interactions of photons (these could be one in the same), all the spare marbles as atoms within the universe wouldn't matter for other than the collective bond of such marbles, whereas even that degree of collective bond would not materialize into anything unless our DNA swarm like code(s) of honor was in charge of each and every marble, and to always remember that the core of our cosmic existance has one hell of a lot more of them spare marbles than all the rest of us combined, plus having the necessary cosmic DNA codes of those essential photons and of the force of gravity to boot. Just because the Usenet swarm intelligence of such naysayism has been telling us lies upon lies, whereas it simply can not exclude or otherwise nullify those regular laws of physics, nor can this typically infomercial driven gauntlet of such faith-based nonsense continually exclude or otherwise banish the best available evidence of other complex intelligent life. Superior intelligence equals surviving, and for the most part we humans are clearly not very good at our having survived thus far, along with some of our DNA's evolution MIA and/or going into the nearest crapper, especially when certain plants and other species of complex life have been clearly better at mutation adapting than us. Terribly sorry about all that deductive interpretation of mine, as similar to my pesky discovery of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus. - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth |
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We need to accomplish a whole lot more than merely contemplate the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, and the sooner the better because, just isolating 3.0~3.5% worth of solar influx isn't necessarily good enough. In addition to our solar forced tides via Earth's rotation that's continually adding solar tidal forced energy into our environment, there's Earth's salty old moon that is in fact extremely nearby, and by all measure and comparison of other moons it's also an absolutely impressive mascon in ratio to the mass of Earth, as it's moving along its nearby orbit about our 98.5% fluid Earth fairly quickly. Derived from all of this nearby mascon that's in orbit of Earth causes a great deal of unavoidable friction inside and out, and you simply can't have such ongoing frictions without such causing heat (mostly from the inside out). Thus far, there is no replicated science that has this planet along with any moon as of 13,000 some odd years ago. In fact, there's also no replicated scientific indications of Earth having such an extensive seasonal tilt either. Gravity and subsequent tidal induced planetology heating goes along with the natural happenstance or intelligent terraforming game plan, of forcing Earth to essentially thaw out from the very last interstellar forced ice age this planet will ever get to experience. Now all that we'll have to worry about (besides surviving WWIII, WWIV and WWV) is the eventual interstellar warming trend as our solar system continues to migrate towards the nearby gravity influence of other stars, plus that of our badly failing magnetosphere that could summarily nullify our frail DNA beyond the point of no return. Basically, we're situated a little too far from our sun, and if Earth were without moon is when we'd become extensively iced over, and if also having somewhat less seasonal tilt is when we'd be dealing with even greater amounts of such ice. If this planet were w/o moon and rotating at half of its current 24 hour cycle is when there'd be nearly continual ice sheet coverage all the way into the tropics of Cancer/Capricorn, along with nighttime frost existing at the equator. The slower a planet rotates, the more solar forced extremes of surface temperatures should exist. Whereas, if Earth were spinning 24 times faster, there'd become hardly any surface temperature difference between day or night. Our solar system is associated with a few nearby stars that are essentially in control of our local interstellar orbit. The 225 million year cycle of the Milky Way itself is yet another reality check of what's gradually affecting our local environment, that's in addition to whatever's being humanly contributed. Galaxies and the Expanding Universe / Structure of Milky Way http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=36827 Hipparcos data links "Tales of a thousand and one nights: Past and future of the Milky Way" http://www.aanda.org/index.php?optio... d=42&lang=en http://www.edpsciences.org/journal/i...iv3=PR20030959 http://www.edpsciences.org/papers/aa...R20030959.html "The last orbit of the observed stars in their motion around the Galactic Centre (GC). Each orbit takes about 225 million years. The movie shows that the stars have travelled extensively in the disk of the Milky Way before converging into the small volume where we observe them today. The Sun is marked by a blue dot; its orbit by the white curve." (take notice of what's happening closest to us) The force of gravity is still as always in charge of most everything that matters, and otherwise it seems photons are in charge of most everything else. Atoms are just representing our bag of spare marbles for the likes of gravity and of photons to play with. Without either the force of gravity or the required interactions of photons (these could be one in the same), all the spare marbles as atoms within the universe wouldn't matter for other than the collective bond of such marbles, whereas even that degree of collective bond would not materialize into anything unless our DNA swarm like code(s) of honor was in charge of each and every marble, and to always remember that the core of our cosmic existance has one hell of a lot more of them spare marbles than all the rest of us combined, plus having the necessary cosmic DNA codes of those essential photons and of the force of gravity to boot. Just because the Usenet swarm intelligence of such naysayism has been telling us lies upon lies, whereas it simply can not exclude or otherwise nullify those regular laws of physics, nor can this typically infomercial driven gauntlet of such faith-based nonsense continually exclude or otherwise banish the best available evidence of other complex intelligent life. Superior intelligence equals surviving, and for the most part we humans are clearly not very good at our having survived thus far, along with some of our DNA's evolution MIA and/or going into the nearest crapper, especially when certain plants and other species of complex life have been clearly better at mutation adapting than us. Terribly sorry about all that deductive interpretation of mine, as similar to my pesky discovery of other intelligent life existing/ coexisting on Venus. - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth |
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Silly usenet swarm of naysayism, stricks yet another dumbfounded blow
on behalf of butt protecting their Zion mainstream status quo. God forbid, wouldn't want to involve the regular laws of physics or any of those pesky items of scientific evidence. - Brad Guth On Jun 19, 1:44 pm, BradGuth wrote: Is the potential of our obtaining 3.5% solar isolation too much to ask for? Is having roughly 50% of tidal interactions as based upon a 24 hour cycle too little? Is there something of physics or the science about utilizing tethered CMs that's insurmountable? What portions and/or species of terrestrial life wouldn't become better off at 96.5% solar insolation, having fewer or somewhat more moderate plate tectonic issues, having lesser surface tides and otherwise less overall environmental heating via mascon induced friction of our 98.5% fluid Earth, as well as for having obtained a slight reduction of IR/FIR influx and roughly 1/16th the Gamma radiation that's associated with our naked anticathode moon? - "whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell - Brad Guth |
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