John Kerry Rejects Going Back to the Moon, on to Mars

Why does this surprise you? It was a democratically controlled Congress
that killed Apollo and nickeled and dimed both the shuttle and ISS to the
point of irrelevance. The doctrinaire republicans are not automatically our
friends but it is very clear who our enemies are.


"Mark R. Whittington" wrote in message
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"What we need to do as we enter this dawn of the 21st century, is not talk
about going to the Moon or even to Mars. We need to go to the Moon right
here on Earth by creating the jobs, building the high value-added jobs of
the future, making clear that no young American in uniform ever ought to
be
held hostage to America's dependence on oil in the Middle East," he said.


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A vote for Kerry appears to be a vote to keep Western Civilization planet
bound and to yield the future to the Chinese.

--
Mark R. Whittington
http://curmudgeons.blogspot.com
Co-author of Nocturne, a Novel of Suspense
http://www.xlibris.com/nocturne.html
Author of Children of Apollo
http://www.xlibris.com/childrenofapollo.html

Why does this surprise you? It was a democratically controlled Congress
that killed Apollo and nickeled and dimed both the shuttle and ISS to the
point of irrelevance. The doctrinaire republicans are not automatically our
friends but it is very clear who our enemies are.



"Mark R. Whittington"

There are two sets of Democrats, pre 1968 democrats and post 1968 democrats.
The pre 1968 democrats got the Apollo program started, then they undergone a
conversion in 1968, turn the American Flag upsidedown and then started killing
the Apollo program. The post 1968 Democrats no longer wanted to beat the
Soviets in the Space Race, now they wanted to lose, so they cut back manned
space travel giving the Soviets a chance to pull ahead of us. I wasn't there
for the conversion, I don't know what happened to the democrats, but I imagine
that alot of voters were thrown off. Whatever happened to the Patriotic
Democrats of FDR, Truman, and JFK, now according to these New Democrats,
everything that's wrong with the World was caused by America, not the Soviet
Union! I get the distinct impression that most Democrats consider themselves to
be citizens of the World first and are embarrassed about being American
citizens, that they play down. Instead of considering their political offices
as a way to serve their country, they consider it instead as a way to serve
their constituents. It is unfortunate, in their minds that they have to serve
in American Government offices to help their constituents, but they make the
best of things by spending as much Government money as they can on their
constituents at home, they don't want to spend it on anything spectacular like
a Moon mission, they think America as a whole doesn't deserve such a thing,
instead they want to spend the money quitely on entitlements without calling
attention to the generosity and accom[plishments of America as a whole. The
American system of government is basically the system they have to work with to
get things done, but I suspect that they wish it was something else.

Tom

So you're saying "screw the deficit and civil rights, as long as we can give
NASA way too much money trying to go back to the Moon". Thanks for sharing.

With Kerry as President the private sector will take us into space, which is as
it should be.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:12:47 -0600, Richard Schumacher
wrote:

So you're saying "screw the deficit and civil rights, as long as we can give
NASA way too much money trying to go back to the Moon". Thanks for sharing.

Civil Rights = Do nothing while 20 terrorists come to America, board
airliners and kill 3,000 people. Thanks for sharing.

With Kerry as President the private sector will take us into space, which is as
it should be.

Most forecasts say the Republicans will maintain control (perhaps even
increase their majority) of Congress in November. So even if Kerry
wins, he won't get much done. Left to his own devices, he'll likely
try to tax the private sector out of existence to pay down the
deficit. Yeah, that's a prescription for an improved economy,
alright...

Brian

"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 09:12:47 -0600, Richard Schumacher
wrote:

So you're saying "screw the deficit and civil rights, as long as we can
give
NASA way too much money trying to go back to the Moon". Thanks for
sharing.

Civil Rights = Do nothing while 20 terrorists come to America, board
airliners and kill 3,000 people. Thanks for sharing.

With Kerry as President the private sector will take us into space, which
is as
it should be.

Most forecasts say the Republicans will maintain control (perhaps even
increase their majority) of Congress in November. So even if Kerry
wins, he won't get much done. Left to his own devices, he'll likely
try to tax the private sector out of existence to pay down the
deficit. Yeah, that's a prescription for an improved economy,
alright...

As Greenspan pointed out, now that we have massive deficits, Social Security
will bankrupt the government. If that happens, there won't be a space
program at all. In 2001, we had a choice between running deficits now or
running them later. We chose to run them now which causes a bit of a
problem when Social Security runs out of money. Bush's Mars program takes
place after the government goes bankrupt.

Most of Bush's plans take place after he leaves office, so in a way, it
doesn't matter that much who gets elected. There is still a chance of
changing Kerry's mind after he has taken office and spoken to people at
NASA. At the moment, he is busy and isn't likely to propose much of a space
program. Under Bush's plan, the shuttle shuts down in 2010. Kerry's plan
is probably the same, unless it shuts down sooner, which wouldn't be a bad
thing. We'll have to wait and see what comes next.

Under Bush's plan, the shuttle shuts down in 2010. Kerry's plan
is probably the same, unless it shuts down sooner, which wouldn't be a bad
thing. We'll have to wait and see what comes next.


Kerry is the master of retreat, he will shut down the Shuttle Program and shut
down the Manned Space Program and he will be proud of his accomplishments too.

Tom

TKalbfus wrote:

Under Bush's plan, the shuttle shuts down in 2010. Kerry's plan
is probably the same, unless it shuts down sooner, which wouldn't be a bad
thing. We'll have to wait and see what comes next.



Kerry is the master of retreat, he will shut down the Shuttle Program and shut
down the Manned Space Program and he will be proud of his accomplishments too.

Tom


The Shuttle program has already been slated to be shut down by
the current president. Haven't you been reading the news?

"TKalbfus" wrote in message
...
Under Bush's plan, the shuttle shuts down in 2010. Kerry's plan
is probably the same, unless it shuts down sooner, which wouldn't be a
bad
thing. We'll have to wait and see what comes next.


Kerry is the master of retreat, he will shut down the Shuttle Program and
shut
down the Manned Space Program and he will be proud of his accomplishments
too.

With all due respect, this is precisely what Bush is now doing.

shuttle shuts down in 2010. Kerry's plan
is probably the same, unless it shuts down sooner, which wouldn't be a bad
thing. We'll have to wait and see what comes next.

Giving up the shuttle is only a good thing if a better ship replaces it.

Brian Thorn wrote:

Civil Rights = Do nothing while 20 terrorists come to America, board
airliners and kill 3,000 people. Thanks for sharing.

So, what you're saying is that civil rights are incompatible
with the fight against terrorism.

Some of us suspected this, but it's good to see this kind of
enormously evil thinking confirmed.

BTW, you're a dangerous idiot.

Paul