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Old December 27th 06, 03:16 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:44:31 -0600, Pat Flannery
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Do you have any idea the funding boost that NASA could get if it could
prove there's life on Mars?


....Life, shmife. All they need to do is to find proof of water in
abundance within reasonable drilling distance, and Marsifest Destiny
will be ordained overnight. Rest assured, had Venus turned out to be
the swampy tropics everyone predicted for centuries, we'd already have
not only been colonizing it, Red Lobster would have been serving
whatever crustacians they could ship back.

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Old December 27th 06, 11:03 AM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:

...Life, shmife. All they need to do is to find proof of water in
abundance within reasonable drilling distance, and Marsifest Destiny
will be ordained overnight. Rest assured, had Venus turned out to be
the swampy tropics everyone predicted for centuries, we'd already have
not only been colonizing it, Red Lobster would have been serving
whatever crustacians they could ship back.



What about dinosaurs? Astro had to fry one of their faces in "Tom
Corbett, Space Cadet" just to keep the toothy ******* from gnawing on him.
Okay, Astro wasn't the smartest thing in the world, and Roger Manning
was a complete prick, but we Solar Guard guys have to stick together. :-)

Pat

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Old December 27th 06, 12:46 PM posted to sci.space.history
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OM wrote:
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:44:31 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:


Do you have any idea the funding boost that NASA could get if it could
prove there's life on Mars?



...Life, shmife. All they need to do is to find proof of water in
abundance within reasonable drilling distance, and Marsifest Destiny
will be ordained overnight. Rest assured, had Venus turned out to be
the swampy tropics everyone predicted for centuries, we'd already have
not only been colonizing it, Red Lobster would have been serving
whatever crustacians they could ship back...


....and, we'd also be watching the tenth series of "Venusian Fire Women
Gone Wild" on DVD.


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Old December 27th 06, 12:51 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Pat Flannery wrote:


OM wrote:

...Life, shmife. All they need to do is to find proof of water in
abundance within reasonable drilling distance, and Marsifest Destiny
will be ordained overnight. Rest assured, had Venus turned out to be
the swampy tropics everyone predicted for centuries, we'd already have
not only been colonizing it, Red Lobster would have been serving
whatever crustacians they could ship back.


What about dinosaurs? Astro had to fry one of their faces in "Tom
Corbett, Space Cadet" just to keep the toothy ******* from gnawing on him.
Okay, Astro wasn't the smartest thing in the world...


....yeah, maybe, but a really decent likeable guy, I thought. I wouldn't
have had a problem serving on a crew with him.

...and Roger Manning
was a complete prick...


Right on there, bro'.


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Old December 27th 06, 03:58 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:


That's not far fetched...look at this Amish conspiracy
http://www.geocities.com/beaver_militia/nasa.html





Do you have any idea the funding boost that NASA could get if it could
prove there's life on Mars?
They'd be flying probes all over the thing.
Far from trying to cover it up, they're frantically looking for any hint
of it, down to the point of immediately deciding those liquid flows in
the crater are water, and not the far more likely liquid CO2.
Because a lifeless Mars is a boring Mars, and you don't get funding to
explore boring places.



But this is a conspiracy only scientists can pull off.
The rovers were designed to look for only evidence of
water, they cannot detect organic material.
The next lander can test for habitability, but not
evidence of biological activity.
http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/science03.php

After that the next mission can detect organics
and the building blocks of life, but yet again it
cannot test for life.
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/miss...uture/msl.html

Then the next step, the one that could actually prove
life, would be the sample return mission. Which
would take something like seven years just to
fly the sample back to earth.
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/miss...eMissions.html

You get the picture? They are not now, or in the near future
even looking for life, but everything else first. Why make
the big discovery now, when they can MILK it for
another twenty or thirty years. About the remaining
length of their careers....funny about that.

It's the oldest govt conspiracy there is, milk the gravy
train as long as possible. What makes this entire
gravy trail go is the mystery, the possibility.
Make the discovery now, and it will suddenly
become...been there...done that...let's move
on. As long as they can dangle the mystery and
possibility, they can continue to milk this story
for all it's worth.




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Pat


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Old December 27th 06, 09:59 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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"Jonathan" wrote in message


It's the oldest govt conspiracy there is, milk the gravy
train as long as possible. What makes this entire
gravy trail go is the mystery, the possibility.
Make the discovery now, and it will suddenly
become...been there...done that...let's move
on. As long as they can dangle the mystery and
possibility, they can continue to milk this story
for all it's worth.


You do realize there's other intelligent life existing/coexisting on
Venus, don't you?

It's not even hocus-pocus or otherwise the least bit outside the regular
laws of physics.
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Old December 27th 06, 11:06 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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: "Brad Guth"
: You do realize there's other intelligent life existing/coexisting on
: Venus, don't you?

Nope. Nor do you. You imagine and perhaps believe there are.

: It's not even hocus-pocus or otherwise the least bit outside the
: regular laws of physics.

True; no problem with the laws of physics.
It merely contradticts actual observation to suppose
anything like DNA-in-water style life is there.


Wayne Throop http://sheol.org/throopw
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Old December 28th 06, 12:02 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Wayne Throop" wrote in message


But you're limited to tunnel braille astronomy, and that really must
suck.

: It's not even hocus-pocus or otherwise the least bit outside the
: regular laws of physics.

True; no problem with the laws of physics.
It merely contradticts actual observation to suppose
anything like DNA-in-water style life is there.


Why water and not h2o2, or any number of better alternatives?

What part of your silly status quo shadow are you afraid of today?

There's worse places for wussy human life right here on Earth. So
what's your point?

Where's the big-ass insurmountable problem, other than for the snookered
and dumbfounded likes of yourself surviving Venus?
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Old December 28th 06, 10:25 AM posted to sci.space.history
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mike flugennock wrote:

Pa


What about dinosaurs? Astro had to fry one of their faces in "Tom
Corbett, Space Cadet" just to keep the toothy ******* from gnawing on
him.
Okay, Astro wasn't the smartest thing in the world...



...yeah, maybe, but a really decent likeable guy, I thought. I
wouldn't have had a problem serving on a crew with him.

...and Roger Manning was a complete prick...



Right on there, bro'.



Good ol' Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Corbett%2C_Space_Cadet
I had all those books when I was a kid, though I never saw the TV show.
Nor ever heard of "Kellogg's Pep- The Solar Cereal"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/KPep.jpg

Pat



 




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