China Telescopes

Mike Simmons wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

Why would anyone want to live in Iran unless:
-They were one of the religious nuts who run the place?
-There was alot of money in it?

Jim Klein wrote:
Mike Simmons wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

I was thinking more along the lines of the national commerce thing.

My dad's grand mother was Jewish (jumped ship over love to become
Catholic) and I hope my post did not upset too many readers. Yes, This
Jim Klein has a relationship to the tribe even though I was raised as
a Catholic, a fact that has cause no end of confusion on my part and
everyone I know. Of course my little friends at Loyola Highschool
never let me forget it. "Kleinstein" I lived with for 4 years.

I could have said "Souix selling toy tin US soldiers" but my distant
relative Gustav Klein was a 7th Cav U.S. Soldier who died on June 25
,1876 in Montana at the Litlle Big Horn River, so that would have been
as tasteless. His name is on the monument.

I like the folks from China, at least all who I have known. It just
seemed strange, that the US has so many things for
sale here and at such low prices and that are made in China.

No one seems to want to admit that we are benefiting from the work of
slaves, kids and prisoners.

So where are the Takahashi copies ?

Jim



Not to mention the filthy American Democrats who, if they win, will
sign onto Kyoto, a C02 emission control "treaty" that somehow forgot to
include China (#2 biggest polluter, soon to be #1) in it's control
mandates.

"Rich" wrote in message
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Mike Simmons wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving
Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and
sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

Why would anyone want to live in Iran unless:
-They were one of the religious nuts who run the place?
-There was alot of money in it?


Guy asked me one time why anyone would want to live in a two-room shack on
Lower Second Creek in Perry County, Kentucky -- no running water, no indoor
toilet, heat from a coal-stove, no cable TV, two dogs sleeping in the
corner.

Simple: Because it's home.

Not every one drives a Hummer -- or even wants to.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:03:59 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

Mike Simmons wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

I was thinking more along the lines of the national commerce thing.

My dad's grand mother was Jewish (jumped ship over love to become
Catholic) and I hope my post did not upset too many readers.

Not me, Jim, nor anyone else, I'd guess. I didn't mean to suggest that it
was offensive. Just my knee-jerk reaction to share some perspective based
on experiences most westerners don't have. And you're right about the
commerce. I think Israel has the market for Jewish religious items pretty
well locked up in that region. ;-)

I could have said "Souix selling toy tin US soldiers" but my distant
relative Gustav Klein was a 7th Cav U.S. Soldier who died on June 25
,1876 in Montana at the Litlle Big Horn River, so that would have been
as tasteless. His name is on the monument.

Wow, that's quite a connection. At least for a history buff like me.

I like the folks from China, at least all who I have known. It just
seemed strange, that the US has so many things for
sale here and at such low prices and that are made in China.

No one seems to want to admit that we are benefiting from the work of
slaves, kids and prisoners.

I think you had the answer when you said you'd base your purchase on the
price. People usually don't want to think about the other side of that
equation.

So where are the Takahashi copies ?

It seems to me Rod gave you a pretty good answer. And the products are
from Taiwan, not PRC.

Mike Simmons

On 28 Oct 2006 22:12:11 -0700, Rich wrote:

Mike Simmons wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

Why would anyone want to live in Iran unless:
-They were one of the religious nuts who run the place?
-There was alot of money in it?

I'm not sure how my post generated that question, Rich. But I'll bite.
They're extremely proud of their country, especially their heritage (which
is clearly better than their present). Wonderful people and culture.
Fantastic place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. And with the
terrible economic situation there now a lot of them would prefer to live
elsewhere, too. Millions do live elsewhere now but all retain the love of
their country. Actually, most people do have strong feelings for their
home country. Even Canadians, right Rich?

Mike Simmons

Mike Simmons wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 22:12:11 -0700, Rich wrote:

Mike Simmons wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:53:29 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

In Pasadena, we have STATS, a store that sells Christmas decorations
in the fall (mostly all year). If there were no made in China
decorations there, the store would be virtually empty. Seems funny for
a communist country to be supplying a largely christian country with
decorations for their biggest religious holiday.

Guess it would be stranger if Jewish religious items we being made by
Iran, Iraq and Lybia.

As a Jew who's traveled extensively in Iran, and who just returned from
Iraq a couple weeks ago, I can tell you there are small but thriving Jewish
communities in both countries. Iran has the largest Jewish population in
the Middle East after Israel. And I'm sure both would manufacture and sell
anything others would buy, just like China.

Mike Simmons

Why would anyone want to live in Iran unless:
-They were one of the religious nuts who run the place?
-There was alot of money in it?

I'm not sure how my post generated that question, Rich. But I'll bite.
They're extremely proud of their country, especially their heritage (which
is clearly better than their present). Wonderful people and culture.
Fantastic place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. And with the
terrible economic situation there now a lot of them would prefer to live
elsewhere, too. Millions do live elsewhere now but all retain the love of
their country. Actually, most people do have strong feelings for their
home country. Even Canadians, right Rich?

Mike Simmons

Hmmm. Third largest oil producer, oil has been at near $70 a barrel
for what, 2 years
and their economic situation is dire? I guess that's what happens when
all you can do is
pump oil out of the ground or weave rugs or grow dates or spawn
religious terrorists?
No wonder they want nukes.
As for Canada, it's resource base is what makes it worthwhile. As for
culture, we don't have any to speak of. A long time ago, a liberal
(they are our rulers by birthright, or so they've told us) decreed that
all foreigners coming to Canada have superior culture and must keep
theirs. So, once the demographic hit 40% new immigrants, Canada stop
pretending it had any culture of it's own.

FO "all wrapped in the flag" ASSHOLE...




Of course, the question would be, what *COULD* he (Bush) do???

NUKE them? Or, how about TALK to them about how WRONG this all is, for
all the bleeding-hear liberals present.

RIGHT???

THAT will help a LOT!!! Of course no one mentions that talking NEVER
helps... It just gives the BAD guys longer to do their thing... And
THAT'S why the UN is useless... They want to release doves, when all the
scumbags are murdering each other all AROUND them, and they make NO effort
to stop it... They just TALK about it... Which is exactly what all the
bleeding heart liberal Democrats want to do... They are demonstrably weak
on national security, or terrorists... They mostly want to hug a tree, or
hug a dove, or kiss.... Well... What THEY know, is blame Bush for
EVERYTHING, and that will make it all right... WRONG...

That's what it's all about now... Just bull**** politics...

The Republicans SUCK!!! RIGHT???

Well, I HATE what's been going on in politics the last few years, and the
Republicans are not what I would call MY party, though I AM a registered
Republican...

It's that the DEMOCRATS are NOTHING... They have NO program. They have
NO clue. They only hate REPUBLICANS...

Well, I don't exactly love Republicans, either, even though I AM one, but
the DEMOCRATS are SO much worse, that it makes me want to VOMIT whenever
one of them stands up and starts to babble about ANYTHING... It's like
they live on a different planet...

So THAT'S why I will be voting Republican, even though I HATE American
politics, and believe maybe it's time to just toss them ALL out, and try
starting all over... No matter HOW bad the Republicans may seem, they are
orders of MAGNITUDE better than the Democrats...

You and your lot are whats wrong with America!!

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Of course, the question would be, what *COULD* he (Bush) do???

Put an embargo on all Chinese goods coming into the US. But, he won't
keep
illegal aliens out, so why would he keep cheap goods out?

...and the Democrats would send BUSES to pick UP the illegal aliens and
bring them in, and serve them lunch, and give them tax-payer paid
BENEFITS, in return for just for coming over illegally...

Oh... And if they can have a KID before they get caught and deported, the
KID becomes a CITIZEN!!!

And then this *citizen* gets to beg those same bleeding heart liberals to
let it's parents become citizens... For WHAT reason???

--
Jan Owen

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This Rich prick is a useless example of a Canadian. He is actually one of
those closet
Americans that won't leave Canada.


Even Canadians, right Rich?

Mike Simmons

Jan Owen wrote:
It's that the DEMOCRATS are NOTHING... They have NO program. They have NO
clue. They only hate REPUBLICANS...

What *is* wrong with the Democratic Party in the U.S. these days - and,
as well, with liberals the world over?

I don't think it is hard to sell the voters on voting for a party that
favors the ordinary working man over rich businessmen.

But then the liberal parties go and spoil it all.

They come up with issues like "gay marriage", which are ahead of what
most ordinary working people understand or accept.

They favor more immigration, which makes it harder to find a job at a
decent wage, or to afford a house.

And, when the country *has* real enemies - and totalitarian dictators
are *always* the enemies of free men, whether their window-dressing is
conservative, like Hitler's, or liberal, like Stalin's - it's just
*dumb* to leave the country with the impression that you don't take
them seriously. Having a "war hero" as your Presidential candidate
whose main claim to fame was stumping the country to tell America it
was perpetrating genocide in Vietnam is not exactly the way to convince
the country that you're taking national security seriously.

If the Republican party is divided by a war between social
conservatives and Fundamentalists and Evangelicals on the one side, and
free-enterprise businessmen on the other, it seems like in the
Democratic party, the college liberals have won the war, and the trade
union liberals are nowhere to be found.

Sometimes, strength is to be found in unity...

John Savard