Phenomenal on orbit shots of Oppurtunity

Rusty wrote:

Pat Flannery wrote:



On this one you can even see the wheel tracks the rover left behind it:
http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/...red.browse.jpg





"Canali"?

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I tried to download the giant image, but the computer freaked. At this
resoulution we are going to have some truly amazingly detailed maps of
Mars soon.

Pat

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Pat Flannery wrote:
I tried to download the giant image, but the computer freaked. At this
resoulution we are going to have some truly amazingly detailed maps of
Mars soon.

Well, do remember that the high-resolution modes of this camera -- like
those of MGS's camera -- are meant for surface *sampling*, and closeup
looks at selected targets, not for global mapping. The field of view is
too narrow to cover the whole planet at that resolution in a mission of
reasonable duration.
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On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:00:36 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

I tried to download the giant image, but the computer freaked.

....Ok, did you try to load it into Explorer, or did you do a
right-click and save-as? If you did the former, and you're low on RAM
or on a dialup line, IE tends to hang, crash or worse.

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Henry Spencer wrote:

Well, do remember that the high-resolution modes of this camera -- like
those of MGS's camera -- are meant for surface *sampling*, and closeup
looks at selected targets, not for global mapping. The field of view is
too narrow to cover the whole planet at that resolution in a mission of
reasonable duration.


Speaking of that- are they going to take some shots of those odd
tower-like structures they spotted with the high IR emissions that they
think may be ice formations over volcanic vents?

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:


Henry Spencer wrote:

Well, do remember that the high-resolution modes of this camera -- like
those of MGS's camera -- are meant for surface *sampling*, and closeup
looks at selected targets, not for global mapping. The field of view is
too narrow to cover the whole planet at that resolution in a mission of
reasonable duration.


Speaking of that- are they going to take some shots of those odd
tower-like structures they spotted with the high IR emissions that they
think may be ice formations over volcanic vents?

Are you talking about the "geysers" that were spotted recently? That'd
be really interesting at that resolution, especially if they can catch
one of them actually "letting one off".

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Henry Spencer wrote:
In article s.com,
mike flugennock wrote:

While I'm sure that looking for rovers/landers and/or rover/lander
wreckage is probably not Job One for the MRO team, I'm sure there's a
fair contingent among them who'd just _love_ to start looking for the
MPL and Beagle wreckage...


Oh, they do plan to try. But holding of breath is not appropriate. :-)
In both cases, there's a big problem with the uncertain location of the
remains -- that big camera is not well-suited to searching large areas.
The likelihood that the wreckage will be camouflaged by a layer of dust by
now doesn't help either.

Absolutely right, as usual, Henry. The fact that the MRO team likely had
all kinds of traverse maps and previous fotos of Victoria from orbit and
fotos of the surrounding regions shot by Opportunity on the ground made
finding the rover a piece of cake, for sure...as will probably be
spotting the Pathfinder site and both Viking sites.

What really excites me about this imagery, though, is that it's the
first imagery I've seen of a rover/lander on the ground on Mars that
wasn't an image that could only be discerned by using an annoted foto
and having to look for garbled little perturbations in the pixel/grain
pattern. _This_ thing resolved the solar panels, the camera mast, the
tracks...damn! The only similar imagery that got me this excited was
some of those telescopic high-res digital fotos I've seen, shot from
several hundred miles in the _opposite_ direction, of the Shuttle and
ISS in orbit, where you can see the open cargo bay, the payload inside,
the OMS pods, the trusswork and solar panels on the ISS, and a Soyuz
docked to one side.

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Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools!"

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This is the Knid of Gee-Wizz that makes you proud to be an American.
JPL is a crown jewel for the Good-Old-U.S. of A. You guys must have
noticed by now, that the the Brad fellow has yet to thrown in a
comment, on something he cannot dispute, (i.e real time history, (not
far enough out yet to start a doubt, that we have real hardware in
field of view)).

Carl
P.S.
I hope that we can find an answer for the Brits. on the fate of Beagle.
I really wanted that mission to work, (It would have been one for the
underdog, (sigh)).

Pat Flannery writes:

Henry Spencer wrote:

Well, do remember that the high-resolution modes of this camera -- like
those of MGS's camera -- are meant for surface *sampling*, and closeup
looks at selected targets, not for global mapping. The field of view is
too narrow to cover the whole planet at that resolution in a mission of
reasonable duration.

Speaking of that- are they going to take some shots of those odd
tower-like structures they spotted with the high IR emissions that
they think may be ice formations over volcanic vents?

Go to the ops web page and ask them to do it. That's what they say anyway.

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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:04:33 -0400, Pat Flannery
wrote:



Rusty wrote:

It looks like a flea on a dog. Great shot, though.




On this one you can even see the wheel tracks the rover left behind it:
http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/...red.browse.jpg
...considering the rover's small size, photagraphy of this resolution
pretty much rules out any Martian mobile

Martian mobile -- this is nice alliteration. same letter.

lifeforms larger than a dog, as you'd see their footprints.



yeah but if they look like fleas on a dog, then the footprints will be
really tiny

mike flugennock wrote:


Are you talking about the "geysers" that were spotted recently? That'd
be really interesting at that resolution, especially if they can catch
one of them actually "letting one off".


No, this was something from several months ago; two odd protuberances
from the surface that were warmer than they should be.
They are said to resemble towers of ice that occur in Antarctica where
moist air warmed by subsurface volcanic heat rises to the surface from a
fissure and its moisture freezes around the vent and starts building a
hollow tube of ice over it.
I haven't seen a picture of one of these, but I get the impression of a
ice termite mound shape.

Pat