Iranian forgery of Ansari photo -- too much body hair visible!!

Darren J Longhorn wrote:

The Iranian web site the blog points to has lots of pictures showing
her hair.


Here's that website:
http://spacescience.ir/
Hair, hair, everywhe
http://spacescience.ir/default.aspx?...Post=000005 5

Pat

h (Rand Simberg) writes:

Insult Christianity, and the Christians just shake their heads.

First, when it's like that (and it isn't everywhere like that) this is
quite new. And when things have changed in the past few hundred years,
this was not because Christianity has gotton more reasonable, but
because its role in society has been sidelined to a very large degree
(and the Christians didn't like that at all, mostly). There are more
than enough Christians totally willing to remove the head of someone who
insulted Christianity if they'd get away with it. Has happened in the
past more than once...

Insult Islam, and get death threats. No, no difference at all.

Well, I think give Islam a few hundred years in a stable and prospering
society with guaranteed civil liberties and it will look very much like
Christianity in the more civilized parts of the world looks now. Islam
is just very much in the Dark Ages right now.

You shouldn't think that either Christianity or Islam are shy of killing
or torturing Unbelievers. Look at what Christianity has done over the
centuries and Islam today looks not that bad at all compared to this.

The choice is not between Islam and Christianity, it's between societies
ruled by law and rationality and those ruled by power and propaganda. By
which name individuals in both societies call their deity is hardly worth
more than a footnote.


Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:21:03 +0200, in a place far, far away, Jochem
Huhmann made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

(Rand Simberg) writes:

Insult Christianity, and the Christians just shake their heads.

First, when it's like that (and it isn't everywhere like that)

Where is it not like that?

this is
quite new. And when things have changed in the past few hundred years,
this was not because Christianity has gotton more reasonable, but
because its role in society has been sidelined to a very large degree
(and the Christians didn't like that at all, mostly). There are more
than enough Christians totally willing to remove the head of someone who
insulted Christianity if they'd get away with it. Has happened in the
past more than once...

The past is not the present. Again, this is exactly the point that
the Pope made.

Insult Islam, and get death threats. No, no difference at all.

Well, I think give Islam a few hundred years in a stable and prospering
society with guaranteed civil liberties and it will look very much like
Christianity in the more civilized parts of the world looks now.

I hope you're right. A few centuries is a long time to wait. The
problem is that we're not talking about centuries ago, or centuries
from now, but rather, the present.

Islam is just very much in the Dark Ages right now.

Which is my point.

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/09...xtography.html


It appears that this is some joke/spoof.

On that BLOG (here's a hint of its trustworthiness), there is a link to
the iranian site where the supposedly photoshopped picture was sourced.

http://www.spacescience.ir/images/Posts/0000024-1.jpg

The above is the one with the uncovered head.


And on the other site : spacescience.ir

This is not only the undoctored picture, but also other pictures with
her uncovered head.

So, I'd say the blogger is the one who used photoshop.

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:13:27 -0400, in a place far, far away, John Doe
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as
to indicate that:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/09...xtography.html


It appears that this is some joke/spoof.

On that BLOG (here's a hint of its trustworthiness),

The mere fact that it's a BLOG provides no information as to its
trustworthiness, one way or the other.

John Doe, I'd say you are clueless --
the Iranian picture was forged, I saw it, and if
they have changed it back, now that they have
been caught, it is only to deceive the weak-minded.

And it worked.


"John Doe" wrote
It appears that this is some joke/spoof.
On that BLOG (here's a hint of its trustworthiness), there is a link to
the iranian site where the supposedly photoshopped picture was sourced.
http://www.spacescience.ir/images/Posts/0000024-1.jpg
The above is the one with the uncovered head.
And on the other site : spacescience.ir
This is not only the undoctored picture, but also other pictures with
her uncovered head.
So, I'd say the blogger is the one who used photoshop.

Jochem Huhmann wrote:

(Rand Simberg) writes:



Insult Christianity, and the Christians just shake their heads.



First, when it's like that (and it isn't everywhere like that) this is
quite new. And when things have changed in the past few hundred years,
this was not because Christianity has gotton more reasonable, but
because its role in society has been sidelined to a very large degree
(and the Christians didn't like that at all, mostly). There are more
than enough Christians totally willing to remove the head of someone who
insulted Christianity if they'd get away with it. Has happened in the
past more than once...



Nowadays Christians wait for God to send a hurricane, earthquake, or
tidal wave to destroy the impious.
One never realized there were that many impious around until recently.
Or that impious people tend to live on seacoasts and fault zones.
But Christianity is a tolerant and rational religion:
http://www.godhatesamerica.com/index.html

Pat :-D

"Darren J Longhorn" wrote
The Iranian web site the blog points to has lots of pictures showing
her hair.

The blog acknowledged that, and suggested one over-zealous editor
got out of control.

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:47:28 -0500, Jim Oberg wrote
(in article ):

I recall protests about such stuff being done with taxpayer funds, but I
watched the controversy pretty closely and, like Rand, never noticed any
ritoing or death threats. Herb, are you delusional, or do you have news links

to back up your assertion? Or some other possibility?

I live in the buckle of the Bible belt, I listen to what I hear and pay
attention to what I read in the editorial pages of my papers. I've
personally heard and read such threats. All that's missing is the
massed marches. Tho' the huge evangelical churches around here are
quite large enough to hold rallies of their own inside their cavernous
halls.

--
Herb Schaltegger
"You can run on for a long time . . . sooner or later, God'll cut you
down." - Johnny Cash
http://www.angryherb.net

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:19:17 -0500, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 09:47:28 -0500, Jim Oberg wrote
(in article ):

I recall protests about such stuff being done with taxpayer funds, but I
watched the controversy pretty closely and, like Rand, never noticed any
ritoing or death threats. Herb, are you delusional, or do you have news links
to back up your assertion? Or some other possibility?

I live in the buckle of the Bible belt, I listen to what I hear and pay
attention to what I read in the editorial pages of my papers. I've
personally heard and read such threats. All that's missing is the
massed marches.

That's a lot to be missing.

Tho' the huge evangelical churches around here are
quite large enough to hold rallies of their own inside their cavernous
halls.

And yet, they don't.

The comparison remains absurd.