Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:27:15 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:49:34 -0600, in a place far, far away, quibbler
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
creationist git then surely you are) that would make
him 73 years old.

And he has cancer. Both is age and medical condition would be pretty
good reasons for retiring. If the vatican opposes his views then the
pope can just flat out contradict him on the spot. There's no need for
them to beat around the bush. The fact is that the vatican doesn't know
what lie to tell next, so, for now, they're keeping their ignorant mouths
shut.

Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php

Yet the latest Pope seems sympathetic to it.

Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:27:15 GMT, h
(Rand Simberg) spake thusly:


Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php

Creation is a Biblical thing.

And intepreting the bible literally is an (American) protestant thing.
(Though a characteristic shared by many Jews and Muslims).

Treating the bibe as gospel!

Jon Schild wrote:
Double-A wrote:
The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Double-A


Well, nobody sane ever claimed that either the Vatican or the mormon big
brethren were hotbeads of liberal thinking or free inquiry.

Within many areas, including science, the Vatican is certainly a free
inquiry zone, and has been for a few Centuries now.

Granted, in other areas this is not the case. It does tend however to
be more forgiving of liberal thinking than many other major religions.

Rand Simberg wrote:
Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

Until now that has been the case, but the German guy in the Vatican
with the silly hat has dropped some hints about embracing intelligent
design theory. We'll see if he carries through with that. Hopefully
it's all a lot of hot air and nothing will come of it.

On 30 Aug 2006 08:14:59 -0700, "Alex Terrell"
spake thusly:


Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php

Creation is a Biblical thing.

And intepreting the bible literally is an (American) protestant thing.
(Though a characteristic shared by many Jews and Muslims).

Treating the bibe as gospel!

You can try to dodge the Scriptures if you want to.
But it is hypocrisy to claim that one believes in a
denomination that claims to believe the Scriptures
and then tosses the basic idea of the Scriptures
aside.

If we got here by evolution, then Jesus is not Savior.


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"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...
: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:49:34 -0600, in a place far, far away,
quibbler
: made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a
: way as to indicate that:
:
: Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
: some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
: creationist git then surely you are) that would make
: him 73 years old.
:
: And he has cancer. Both is age and medical condition would be
pretty
: good reasons for retiring. If the vatican opposes his views then
the
: pope can just flat out contradict him on the spot. There's no need
for
: them to beat around the bush. The fact is that the vatican doesn't
know
: what lie to tell next, so, for now, they're keeping their ignorant
mouths
: shut.
:
: Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
: your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
: Protestant thing.

Ah, _where_ exactly did he claim they oppose evolution? Do you enjoy
looking foolish?

"Pastor Dave" wrote in message
...
[snip]
: If we got here by evolution, then Jesus is not Savior.

Very good, Davey, now if you will only recognize the fact that we
_did_ get here by evolution.......

"Mike" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
: Rand Simberg wrote:
: Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
: your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
: Protestant thing.
:
: Until now that has been the case, but the German guy in the Vatican
: with the silly hat has dropped some hints about embracing
intelligent
: design theory. We'll see if he carries through with that.
Hopefully
: it's all a lot of hot air and nothing will come of it.

How can it matter? No one with any sense cares what the vatican's
stance is, we don't base our lives on their foolishness. Besides, if
they want to reduce their credibility, more power to them.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:54:50 -0500, in a place far, far away,
"Eudaemonic Plague" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

: And he has cancer. Both is age and medical condition would be
pretty
: good reasons for retiring. If the vatican opposes his views then
the
: pope can just flat out contradict him on the spot. There's no need
for
: them to beat around the bush. The fact is that the vatican doesn't
know
: what lie to tell next, so, for now, they're keeping their ignorant
mouths
: shut.
:
: Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
: your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
: Protestant thing.

Ah, _where_ exactly did he claim they oppose evolution?

What is it that they're "lying" about, then?

Do you enjoy looking foolish?

Of course not. Fortunately, I rarely do.

"Pastor Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:27:15 GMT, h
(Rand Simberg) spake thusly:


Speaking of keeping ignorant mouths shut, maybe you should work on
your own. The Church does not oppose evolution. Creationism is a
Protestant thing.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/.../evolution.php

Creation is a Biblical thing.

It's a "literal interpretation of the Bible" thing, and Catholicism is not
known for that these days.