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Old August 30th 06, 10:04 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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"Mark McIntyre" wrote in message


One of your entries in your enormous and RFC violating sigblock is
most apposite:

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."


Quite true.

And your all-knowing lack of any constructive topic point being?

Are you saying that I'm the one that's not looking for the truth?

If so, then perhaps I'm merely looking for those nifty lies upon lies
that'll prove that certain things are so, as based upon the regular laws
of physics and of the best available hard-science that's replicated.
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Old October 2nd 06, 04:36 PM posted to sci.space.history,rec.org.mensa,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
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Perhaps you folks that can't stand to hear another word the truth should
take this quest of your's for stalking, bashing and banishing the truth
and nothing but the truth up with SEFORA. I mean to suggest, the laws
of physics really haven't actually changed simply to suit our
MI/NSA~NASA/Apollo ruse/sting of our perpetrated cold wars, and of hard
replicated science is still representing the best available truth in
town, that is unless you folks still can't believe your own eyes nor
otherwise manage to deductively connect a few of those dots.

I certainly wish those http://www.sefora.org scientists and engineers
the absolute very best of luck. JFK was once upon a time a fair enough
game player on behalf of science and technology, and got summarily
rather dead for being such.

Their "National Agenda" starts off with way too much honesty and truth,
that is if that truth can ever be told. Their blogs via Michael
Stebbins are for the moment fairly empty, but lets see what happens
next. Too bad the likes of SETI/OSETI nor even Mensa doesn't even
remotely qualify.

Usenet truth certainly isn't worth squat, as lies beget lies and liars
spawn liars.

Earth truth isn't exactly possible because Mensa = Skull and Bones

Moon truth gets even so much worse yet because Mensa = Third Reich

Venus truth is entirely off their charts and still running itself
scared.

Sirius truth simply isn't allowed to exist, no matters what the
consequences.

Topic/author stalking, avoidance and/or banishment has been Usenet
status quo.

Excluding whatever evidence rocks your good ship LOLLIPOP seems to have
worked thus far. Too bad that it isn't working for all that much
longer. The perpetrated cold-wars are clearly at risk of being exposed
for what they were. Our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is on his way
out as oil rich Muslims are kicking our butts. China is out-consuming
us and headed for establishing the one and only LSE-CM/ISS. ESA is
uncovering further evidence as to how newish and geothermally active
Venus actually is. The regular laws of physics being applied on behalf
of our moon or that of Venus are holding there own, while the results
are being entirely different than we've been informed by way of our NASA
and the likes of GOOGLE/NOVA.

Usenet and ROM/rec.org.mensa has been into playing with cult like fire,
and that's what makes this Earth into such an extra special planet of
liars telling us lies. Topic/author avoidance if not banishment seems
to have become their ultimate tool or save thy butt worth of a
damage-control method of e-book burning. No wonder there's such few if
any good topics within this wussy Mensa NG that's otherwise so deathly
afraid of it's own shadow.

JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEqtaWpKEU
I'm sorry to say that I've totally agreed with JFK long before I'd
realized how totally snookered I'd been, and obviously this unfortunate
phase in my life was before JFK had gotten summarily nailed for being
such an honest human that actually gave a tinkers damn. No wonder
MI/NSA~NASA had to do what they did by allowing the extermination of
this rogue JFK of a lose cannon, in much the same manor as Jews allowed
one of their own kind to get put on a stick. How can we not make that
connection?

Can we hardly imagine upon discovering a more screwed up planet of
supposedly intelligent other/ET folks that are somewhat physically like
us? (I can't)... Perhaps that's exactly why Sirius had gotten rid of us
in the first place. (somewhat like a cosmic version of tossing out the
bad apples, or perhaps intentionally having established a sufficiently
remote and technologically isolated planet on behalf of accommodating
their mutated rejects)

Perhaps SEFORA will appreciate the fact that our moon's mascon influence
of 2e20 joules or 2.0395e19 kgf will actually mean a little something to
the likes of honest scientists and engineers.

If you're at all interested, I still have more than my fair share of
nifty topics and questions, plus as always a few spare lose cannons to
go along for the ride. I don't even mind sharing, and I'm otherwise
perfectly good with returning the flak with all the love and affection I
can muster.
-
Brad Guth


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Old October 2nd 06, 04:39 PM posted to sci.space.history,rec.org.mensa,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet and Guth Venus

Perhaps you folks that can't stand to hear yet another word about the
truth should take this quest of your's for topic/author stalking,
bashing and banishing the truth and nothing but the truth up with the
likes of SEFORA. I mean to suggest, the laws of physics really haven't
actually changed simply to suit our MI/NSA~NASA/Apollo ruse/sting of our
perpetrated cold wars, and of hard replicated science is still
representing the best available truth in town, that is unless you folks
still can't believe your own eyes nor otherwise manage to deductively
connect a few of those dots.

I certainly wish those http://www.sefora.org scientists and engineers
the absolute very best of luck. JFK was once upon a time a fair enough
game player on behalf of science and technology, and got summarily
rather dead for being such.

Their "National Agenda" starts off with way too much honesty and truth,
that is if that truth can ever be told. Their blogs via Michael
Stebbins are for the moment fairly empty, but lets see what happens
next. Too bad the likes of SETI/OSETI nor even Mensa doesn't even
remotely qualify.

Usenet truth certainly isn't worth squat, as lies beget lies and liars
spawn liars.

Earth truth isn't exactly possible because Mensa = Skull and Bones

Moon truth gets even so much worse yet because Mensa = Third Reich

Venus truth is entirely off their charts and still running itself
scared.

Sirius truth simply isn't allowed to exist, no matters what the
consequences.

Topic/author stalking, avoidance and/or banishment has been Usenet
status quo.

Excluding whatever evidence rocks your good ship LOLLIPOP seems to have
worked thus far. Too bad that it isn't working for all that much
longer. The perpetrated cold-wars are clearly at risk of being exposed
for what they were. Our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is on his way
out as oil rich Muslims are kicking our butts. China is out-consuming
us and headed for establishing the one and only LSE-CM/ISS. ESA is
uncovering further evidence as to how newish and geothermally active
Venus actually is. The regular laws of physics being applied on behalf
of our moon or that of Venus are holding there own, while the results
are being entirely different than we've been informed by way of our NASA
and the likes of GOOGLE/NOVA.

Usenet and ROM/rec.org.mensa has been into playing with cult like fire,
and that's what makes this Earth into such an extra special planet of
liars telling us lies. Topic/author avoidance if not banishment seems
to have become their ultimate tool or save thy butt worth of a
damage-control method of e-book burning. No wonder there's such few if
any good topics within this wussy Mensa NG that's otherwise so deathly
afraid of it's own shadow.

JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlEqtaWpKEU
I'm sorry to say that I've totally agreed with JFK long before I'd
realized how totally snookered I'd been, and obviously this unfortunate
phase in my life was before JFK had gotten summarily nailed for being
such an honest human that actually gave a tinkers damn. No wonder
MI/NSA~NASA had to do what they did by allowing the extermination of
this rogue JFK of a lose cannon, in much the same manor as Jews allowed
one of their own kind to get put on a stick. How can we not make that
connection?

Can we hardly imagine upon discovering a more screwed up planet of
supposedly intelligent other/ET folks that are somewhat physically like
us? (I can't)... Perhaps that's exactly why Sirius had gotten rid of us
in the first place. (somewhat like a cosmic version of tossing out the
bad apples, or perhaps intentionally having established a sufficiently
remote and technologically isolated planet on behalf of accommodating
their mutated rejects)

Perhaps SEFORA will appreciate the fact that our moon's mascon influence
of 2e20 joules or 2.0395e19 kgf will actually mean a little something to
the likes of honest scientists and engineers.

If you're at all interested, I still have more than my fair share of
nifty topics and questions, plus as always a few spare lose cannons to
go along for the ride. I don't even mind sharing, and I'm otherwise
perfectly good with returning the flak with all the love and affection I
can muster.
-
Brad Guth


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Old October 13th 06, 06:30 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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I certainly hope that these all-knowing Usenet naysayers and of their
born-again denial that's in the nearest space-toilet of denial about
nearly everything under their sun are right about this polluted Earth
being the one and only life sustaining planet in the entire Universe, or
at least hosting the most advanced species that'll kick serious ET butt,
as for otherwise all we need is for the likes of SETI/OSETI or some
other mission/probe to uncover yet another mentally sick and perverted
world of mostly cult like paganism that's without a stitch of remorse,
all because it's so absolutely chuck full of the sorts of our human
incest spawn and cultivated bigotry, arrogance and insurmountable greed
like that's existing right here on good old River City upon this mother
Earth, along with her extremely impressive mascon of such a nearby
global warming moon that's also remaining as infomercial cloak and
dagger taboo/nondisclosure until each of them hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo
cows come home. (I'm sorry; was any of that getting too far over your
head?)

Besides what this anti-think-tank of Usenet can't seem to manage a good
topic such as "Earth w/o Magnetosphere, w/o Moon" or that of "Global
Warmed to Death via moon" without blowing another one of their
infomercial gaskets, whereas the rather unfortunate Venus EXPRESS forum
of NASA's very own uplink.space.com cesspool is still operating as the
pathetic infomercial and/or damage-control joke that it is, of a few
Usenet like cult/insider members that'll stalk, bash and/or banish
whomever gets in their way (acting exactly like GW Bush, Dick Cheney and
Henry Kissinger, especially if you happen to be Muslim or in any
pro-Islamic other way).

http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php...&fpart=10&vc=1
Too bad that we/NASA were not any part of ESA's extremely cost effective
VIRTIS mission.

This BBC report is actually offering us a damn good bit of news if it's
representing that their previously stuck PFS instrument is back in
action.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6041570.stm
"scientists are happy to report that all the instruments are in good
working order and beaming back massive amounts of data."

If all continues to go well, from here on out is where David Grinspoon,
FW Taylor and hopefully the more open and free to roam about the
universe mindset likes of John Ackerman are going to seriously kick a
few of our sorry planetology butts that have been focused upon global
warming, rather than the truth.

The geothermally active nature of Venus is simply chuck full of nifty
but otherwise good elements, as having been spewing off more of such as
spare renewable energy than anything our probes and previous mindsets
have previously encountered. Of course any halfwhit scientist worth
their salt already knew that Venus was and still is extremely alive and
as such having been kicking out all sorts of nifty geothermal energy,
plus having been contributing those somewhat nasty vapors as though that
planet was a good billion years less old than Earth (just like we've
been informed by so many others before that weren't being givben a gram
of credit because they obviously were's sufficiently Jewish).

Having an open mindset which is based entirely upon the regular laws of
physics, and thereby receptive as to the best available science, is
going to be deductively formulating those new and improved
interpretations from all those new and improved numbers, and of the
images such numbers represent are going to get published along with a
more open or wider perspective as to what's possible.

Therefore being unlike this Usenet of mainstream disinformation and
infomercial-science that's so badly skewed towards their past
associations, and as a result having sucked away at the truth and blown
out nothing but their infomercial butt loads of lies upon lies in order
to fortify upon their status quo ruse of their perpetrated cold-war
century, whereas instead of all the usual hocus-pocus is where this
Venus EXPRESS (VIRTIS) mission has been offering the ongoing proof
positive that many others and myself have been sufficiently right all
along, about Venus being an active geothermal cauldron of newish
planetology, with few shortages of anything that known technology
couldn't manage to deal with.

ESA's VIRTIS is perhaps a bit slow at sharing, but then we haven't been
willing to share all that much of the truth with regards to our moon or
even that of the previous missions which our NASA conducted of Venus.
The involvement of MI/NSA~CIA and those pesky exclusions of evidence
that didn't fit the mold is at least a couple of good reasons why ESA
accomplished this task without our supposed help.

Even our MESSENGER mission has been simply hocus-pocus about having
avoided sharing any pictures of the Earth with moon, or having even
accommodated an honest side by side composite look-see whereas each
obtained image was recorded at the exact same exposure. By way of using
the bottom 5% of their available CCD/DR capability is how our MESSENGER
team managed to obtain such an unusually naked and somewhat pastel image
of Earth, and w/o moon to boot. Silly game, isn't it.
~
Life upon Venus; township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus my updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


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Old October 14th 06, 08:30 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Too bad that most anything Venus or that of ESA's VIRTIS is still so
taboo/nondisclosure. It's almost as bad off as for discussing our moon
or that of China's soon to be owned and operated LSE-CM/ISS.

Just because our physically dark moon has been double IR and FIR hot,
plus a touch gamma and hard-X-ray lethal to our frail DNA, this doesn't
mean that the toasty but otherwise sufficiently end-user friendly
environment afforded by Venus is ET/biologically taboo nor otherwise
technologically all that humanly insurmountable.

A perfectly viable other world or moon needn't have 0.001% the water of
Earth, and even that amount of h2o needn't be situated as a pure form or
even that of salty brine of a fluid, or that of whatever's sequestered
as a brine ot that of salty ice or merely packed underneath dry-ice on
the open surface of their planet isn't all that insurmountable, whereas
I do believe we're talking of a good deal less (perhaps as little as
0.0001% or a millionth that of Earth's environment) if their local
evolution of survival motivated DNA had formulated their physiology for
being accustomed and/or having become sufficiently survival intelligent
as to artificially managing upon such scant amounts of h2o. Their h2o
could even be that of a highly valuable mined substance, or perhaps
having become artificially cultivated/recycled via applied technology.

Not all such other worthy planets as capable of hosting intelligent
other life need be as badly over-populated with the sorts of dumbfounded
heathens as Earth. Such as, what if an extremely hot and dry Earth had
but a million or merely a few thousand intelligent souls to deal with.
Why the heck shouldn't any hot or cold Earth like planet or viable moon
even have to be so populated with much other than suitable plants,
diatoms, insects and various larger animals? (on Earth, didn't we come
along at the very last planetology minute, especially as for those of us
being the supposedly intelligent species, as only having existed from
the very last ice age, that which our Earth will ever see again).

"Eric Chomko" wrote in message
ups.com
Bleeding Scalp wrote:
In fact Earth is absolutely Unique there is none other like it an there
is nothing like a man anywhere else but on earh and decendants thereof.


How can you state that definitively? You have no idea if something like
man exists or does not exist all over the universe. What we do know is
that our galaxy is not unique, that our star in that galaxy is not
unique, nor is our planet that circles that star unique. That said, why
do you believe that life as we know it IS unique?


Thanks once again, Eric, for having put that one through. Unlike what
team SETI/OSETI and the likes of so many others living in their
hocus-pocus past and remaining so mindset intent upon keeping the rest
of us there seem to think, our extremely wet and at previous times
having been extensively frozen near solid Earth also isn't at all the
unique unless we're speaking of our rather unusually massive moon
arriving since the last ice age, and/or that of appreciating our rather
uniquely cultivated form of our truly unique intellectual incest of
bigotry, arrogance and the sorts of insurmountable greed that has been
running most everything amuck since recorded time, and then some.

If ETs were only half as smart and otherwise not at continual war with
one another, they'd be a good thousand percent better off than us.
Meaning; if having just 10% the local resources at their disposal,
they'd still be a whole lot better off than compared to what we've long
since trashed as our environment because we're such all-knowing pagan
idiots without a stitch of remorse.

Being survival smart and otherwise extremely intelligent has absolutely
nothing to do with ETs having radio or much less any form of space
travel capability. (sorry about that)

If ETs had ongoing space probes and the likes of personal space travel
capability, as such they most certainly wouldn't be so primitive and
thus limited to using the inefficiencies and limitations of radio. (at
least not the sorts of funky radio we've been using).

If having been surviving upon a fully cloud covered planet (such as
Venus), or perhaps upon that of having survived a thick atmospheric moon
(such as Titan or even that of our once upon a time icy proto-moon
that's still rather salty), whereas the stars and of whatever other
nearby planets simply do not exist, do they. And besides all of that,
would such other intelligent ET's of conventional evolution or
especially those of intelligent design dare to knowingly trash their one
and only frail environment? (I don't think so)
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Old October 19th 06, 04:26 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet and Guth Venus

Venus EXPRESS is still flying taboo/nondisclosure stealth mode, playing
it extra safe until their PFS instruments gets into action, if ever.

Our moon is physically dark, as it is extremely hot/cold and unavoidably
being terribly reactive, however Venus may have become the rarest of any
planet that's hosting intelligent other life, but then Earth is not only
going to become eventually w/o magnetosphere, as well as it used to be
w/o moon, but it's clearly operating w/o hardly a stitch of remorse as
though w/o so much as half a village idiot Usenet mind of it's own. I
believe it's called base jumping, except without a bungy cord or
parachute.

The vast bulk of topics here in Usenet land of denial are absolutely
silly and/or wussy, of no importance to much of anything that matters.
The potentially serious topics are being stalked, bashed, infomercial
skewed and/or intentionally mutated in order to banish such or otherwise
forced to suit the all-knowing mainstream status quo, especially
tormented if it isn't something 100+% pro-Jewish.

It has been so freaking obvious that we're being given infomercial butt
loads of their used toilet paper instead of the truth, in that only the
truly dumb and dumber souls that are well past their dumbfounded point
of no return are the ones still thinking their corrupted systems can
somehow be fixed with yet another ruse, another sting, another lie,
another perpetrated war.
-
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Old October 20th 06, 01:43 PM posted to sci.space.history,rec.org.mensa,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet and Guth Venus

Evidence excluding works every time:
Earth may in fact be the most alive or at least the most screwed up
planet in the known universe (of course we only know extremely slight
and insignificant bits about 0.0000000000000000001% [1e-21] of this
universe), whereas no matters how much we clean up our act Earth will
never again see another ice age, especially as we retain our own nearby
orbiting mascon that's tidal and IR/FIR warming us to death, plus that
little pesky matter as our solar system orbits us closer to the Sirius
star/solar system, which by the way isn't exactly going to put any spare
ice upon Earth unless we're getting hit by another icy snowball from
encountering the Sirius Kuiper/Oort hell, or perhaps if somehow this
interstellar encounter manages to skew an icy Sedna into heading our
way.

No boat rocking is allowed:
The likes of our MESSENGER and NEW HORIZONS are each in the process
doing their spendy wag-thy-dog missions, and unfortunately the ESA Venus
EXPRESS mission is still flying low in their usual need-to-know
taboo/nondisclosure stealth mode, playing it extra damage-control safe
and cozy until their PFS instruments gets into action, if ever, so
there's not actually good or bad news to report.

God forbid, don't tell the truth:
Our mascon worthy moon is still physically dark, as well an extremely
hot/cold environment and otherwise unavoidably being it's terribly
reactive self in more ways than just gamma and hard-X-rays, however
Venus may have become the rarest of any planet that's hosting
intelligent other life, but then Earth may soon enough become just as
rare, as it's not only going to eventually become a world w/o sufficient
magnetosphere and otherwise w/o sufficient atmosphere, as well as it
used to be w/o our global warming moon, but at least it's inhabitance
are clearly operating as though w/o hardly a stitch of remorse and as
though w/o so much as hosting half a village idiot Usenet mind of it's
own (I believe it's called faith based base jumping, except without a
bungy cord or parachute).

Usenet MIB are still kicking butt:
The vast bulk of topics within this Usenet naysay land of what's
typically mainstream denial upon denial have become absolutely silly
and/or wussy, of no actual importance to much of anything that matters.
The potentially serious topics are those most often being systematically
stalked, bashed, infomercial skewed and/or having been intentionally
mutated in order to effectively banish such topics until otherwise
forced to suit the all-knowing mainstream status quo, especially getting
tormented to death if it isn't something 100+% pro-Jewish.

Where's the truth and nothing but the truth:
It has been so freaking obvious that we're being given and forced to
accept such infomercial butt loads of mainstream intellectual crapolla,
at best published upon used toilet paper and at our expense instead of
simply allowing and sharing the truth, in so much as only the truly dumb
and dumber souls that are well past their dumbfounded point of no return
are the ones still thinking their corrupted and/or bogus systems of
governments, agencies and of their religious puppeteers can somehow be
fixed with yet another ruse, another sting, another lie, another
perpetrated war, and if need be having Christ put back on that stick for
good measure.

Truth only has to be that which is deduced from the best available
science of the day, and such truth should therefore fit rather nicely
within the regular laws of physics, whereas infomercial-science needs
only to beget itself because, it only has to comply as to whatever fits
into their social/religious conditional laws of physics. Any lack of
evidence that should have existed in support of the status quo is
therefore standing as good as it gets, and simply can't be revised nor
argued or even suggested as being any part of their grand ruse/sting
that has most of us firmly gripped by our private parts, and the likes
of this Usenet and NASA's Uplink.Space has become the eGod(s) that's in
charge of enforcing such.

According to the Gods and wizards of Usenet; Columbus discovered
America first, only Shakespeare wrote every last word, intelligent life
only got created and coexisted here on Earth, a mere 60:1 ratio of
rocket/payload with a 30% inert GLOW is far more than sufficient for
doing our passive moon, Kodak film works entirely different while on or
anywhere near our moon, global warming has absolutely nothing to do with
humanity, and apparently God is Jewish (period, end of discussion). The
matter fact of there being hard scientific evidence stipulating
otherwise isn't even allowed to coexist, much less advance towards the
front of the line.
-
Brad Guth


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Old October 22nd 06, 10:17 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet and Guth Venus

Another good use for the likes of Venus as is: (no terraforming
required)

As I've informed our Usenet resident anti-global-warming avenger "Roger
Coppock", that I'd go so far as to agree that humanity is worth as much
as 25% of our global warming fiasco, but that's about it.

Here's a fully "science friendly" solution that's technically doable and
way past due. OOPS! I forgot that your all or nothing mindset of
naysayism is still in the usual fail-safe mode of denial, as to
banishing the mere thought of our moon having any impact whatsoever upon
our environment. After all, isn't it so much simpler to exclude the
evidence afforded by hard-science, and to otherwise avoid having to use
those pesky regular laws of physics?

What we badly need is a good or even not so good other planet or moon,
intended for sequestering those individuals that simply refuse to accept
the mainstream status quo of infomercial science and of infomercial
history. Of course, I'm being silly, as it should be the other way
around, or didn't you folks realize that part?

Got that "Prison Planet" ??? why the hell not Ceres ???
http://cosmic.lifeform.org/
Thomas Lee Elifritz,
Other than the prospects of getting a little crowded, perhaps "Ceres -
The Fifth Planet From A Star Called The Sun" can become our "Prison
Planet" should be looked into.

However, perhaps otherwise our extremely nearby and not so very old
Venus could also be utilized as is, such as in place of sending folks
that have failed to assimilate into the mainstream status quo to hell.

This nearby alternative would be a darn good thing for "A government
that repeatedly makes bad decisions, resulting in worsening conditions
for the country it runs."

Better yet for a "A government run by an intellectually challenged
leader."

Best of all for "A nation comprised of intellectually challenged
citizens."

But what otherwise to do if we're having to continually deal with all
the rest of those village idiots that are merely dumbfounded past the
point of no return?

Too bad we still can't even get ourselves close enough to our own moon
without frying our frail DNA, much less walking on that physically dark
and otherwise downright nasty surface. However, going underground
should be entirely possible, as offering us a terrific 'Prison Moon'
alternative that we can obviously keep a close eye on those *******s
we've sent there for their own damn good.
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Complex Meteorology at Venus (Venus Express)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...de22fbd03fdc31
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Venus_Ex...5OV74TE_0.html
"The thermal radiation coming from the oven-hot surface of Venus is
represented by the intensity of the colours: the brighter the colour
(towards white), the more radiation comes from the surface, so the less
cloudy the region in the line of sight between the view and the
spacecraft is."

At least ESAs Venus EXPRESS (VIRTIS) team has been correctly stipulating
as to the primary source of the local atmospheric thermal energy, being
that of the geothermally active surface itself and NOT the supposed
atmospheric greenhouse as we've been told over and over by our team of
NASA wizards. The rather obvious thermal differentials depicted by
these latest IR imaging results do in fact clearly depict as to a wide
range of thermal properties, that which makes for the nighttime season
of Venus into something extremely interesting and potentially viable for
future expeditions, at least by way of rigid airship.

The atmospheric temperature of the nighttime season is obviously much
cooler than by day, though obviously the geothermally active surface
radiated thermal energy isn't going to be all that much less than by
day.

Unfortunately, the ESA/VIRTIS team of supposed Venus wizards are still
deathly afraid of our MIB, as to share anything that could be in any way
specific as to their ongoing survey, that even without their nifty PFS
instrument is more than good enough to have established various
atmospheric thermal layers or zones to within +/- 10 K. I guess ESA
isn't quite as independent of our ruse/sting of the century as we'd
thought, or at least hoped for.
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Old October 29th 06, 04:23 PM posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.space.history,uk.sci.astronomy,sci.astro
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Venus Facts, Planetology and Venusian Life that's existing/coexisting in
spite of all that's NASA:

Too bad that we're still not quite smart enough to establish the
efficient LSE-CM/ISS or even so much as the VL2 platform. God forbid we
should actually advance our personal knowledge and widen our
intellectual scope while exploring and taking from whatever's nearest to
Earth.

Global warming that's clearly been contributed to by way of our
extremely massive moon, as having only been with us since the last ice
age, plus our ongoing albedo dimming efforts via the pillaging and
raping of mother Earth along with our nifty soot, CO2, NOx and a rather
toxic brew of other substances is only going to get worse, not that it
isn't sufficiently bad enough as is. However, as our life essential
magnetosphere once again sinks into the nearest toilet, the SAA comes to
represent covering most of Earth, and subsequently our frail DNA takes
yet another unfortunate dive for the worse, whereas chances are looking
somewhat better off than ever for the prospects of our frail DNA
formulated bodies and souls being accommodated within the nicely
protective environment of Venus.

The warm and fuzzy Venusian facts:
The plant Venus is very much alive and kicking it's own rather newish
planetology butt, and as such it'll easily accommodate frying most any
other naked posterior that comes to visit it's geothermally hot soil and
rock. However, if you weren't entirely dumbfounded and actually went in
person to Venus with at least half a village idiot's brain, and
therefore didn't plan upon intentionally trying to step in or much less
walk upon all of that supposed melted lead we keep hearing about,
whereas chances are that with some degree of dumb luck and a touch of
applied technology you'd be perfectly fine and dandy, that is up until
you ran yourself out of ice cold beer or having a malfunctioning
CO2--CO/O2 system because, within that sort of toasty pressure you'd
need that cold beer and roughly 0.5% O2 with perhaps the remainder in H2
in order to manage your survival within that extra hot and dry surface
environment.

In other words, going to Venus in the buff is not a viable option unless
you're planning upon staying within your energy efficient rigid airship,
as you take advantage of the crystal clear, relatively calm and
extremely buoyant and nicely retrograde atmosphere throughout the entire
expedition.

But silly me for thinking the least bit outside that all-knowing
mainstream status quo box, where supposedly only the likes of
sufficiently wet and life infested planets as Earth are acceptable to
being the one and only intelligent life that matters, as in no matters
how intelligent and/or evolutionary advance such other life might be, we
human species are apparently all that counts, even if that ET life were
to be Jewish isn't any assurance that we're not going to take those
unfortunate actions that got so much of our species in trouble before.

The new and improved information about Venus isn't exactly easy to come
by. Venus is somewhat like our taboo/nondisclosure moon, in that the
truth about much of anything is currently sequestered as though it's a
deep dark hocus-pocus secret.

Even ESA's Venus EXPRESS/(VIRTIS) mission is still having to operate in
stealth science mode of protecting our all-knowing lord NASA plus on
behalf of GOOGLE's NOVA and even covering for TIME, National Geographic
and Smithsonian plus a bloody host of so many other infomercial media
spewing butts, while also having to cover all of those hoity toity
British infomercial spewing posteriors with all of their supposedly
straight and narrow butt-crack worth of their very own MI of mainstream
status quo or bust at all possible cost, which is a little unfortunate
because of the wealth of such nifty science that's new and improved as
currently being derived specifically via ESA's VIRTIS mission is exactly
what it is. Supposedly team VIRTIS is still having to make due without
their nifty PFS instrument as being somewhat their science corner stone,
whereas PFS is what technically represents a good 75% worth of their
science effort that's either down for the count or having been
officially sequestered until they can figure out what to do with the
likes of little old me.

Too bad the warm and fuzzy likes of John Ackerman are so terribly
mindset and/or simply not mighty enough individuals as to put up yet
another good fight, nor are others of such open mindsets willing to step
up to this extremely hot-plate of whatever the newish geothermal
planetology of what this geothermally active Venusian environment
beholds.
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