Toward understanding the Double Slit Experiment, pt. 1

"Peter Kinane" wrote in message
...

| Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an electron-wave.
Would
| that model accomodate observations?


No.
Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
models if you wish to understand.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
Androcles

| Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an electron-wave.
Would
| that model accomodate observations?


No.
Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
models if you wish to understand.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
Androcles


Katzebrude.

The electron is a particle. The electron is a wave. It is both.

Fields are places where ones finds dogs mating.

Wave-particle duality is the result of a continuous-discrete duality, and
this continuous-discrete duality is easily explained by allowing
Plancklength graduations to be oriented arbitrarily, not fixed, but sliding
arbitrarily.

Cars are indeed waves, electrons are waves, photons are waves, and sometimes
bull**** comes in waves like a tsunami.

The universe has no geometric origin. There is no cosmic (0,0,0,0). Planck
length chunks of dimension are not numbered. Their configuration is
arbitrary, and so is the location of the origin (as a corollary).

I explained the whole thing already. For Pete's sakes -

For any two points in the universe there is a path of zero distance
connecting those points. It has zero length because it is composed of
trivial points. Obviously, there are also points which are not trivial, and
so ........


gotta run -------

Felix of The North wrote:
| Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an electron-wave.
Would
| that model accomodate observations?


No.
Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
models if you wish to understand.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
Androcles


Katzebrude.

The electron is a particle. The electron is a wave. It is both.

Fields are places where ones finds dogs mating.

Wave-particle duality is the result of a continuous-discrete duality, and
this continuous-discrete duality is easily explained by allowing
Plancklength graduations to be oriented arbitrarily, not fixed, but sliding
arbitrarily.

Cars are indeed waves, electrons are waves, photons are waves, and sometimes
bull**** comes in waves like a tsunami.

The universe has no geometric origin. There is no cosmic (0,0,0,0). Planck
length chunks of dimension are not numbered. Their configuration is
arbitrary, and so is the location of the origin (as a corollary).

I explained the whole thing already. For Pete's sakes -

For any two points in the universe there is a path of zero distance
connecting those points. It has zero length because it is composed of
trivial points. Obviously, there are also points which are not trivial, and
so ........


gotta run -------
----------------------
most probably
run to the pub --take his wives(or mothers ) money ---and buy some
bottles of whiskey !!
we can smell these guys as far as from the south pole

Y.Porat
---------------------------------

nightbat wrote

Y.Porat wrote:

Felix of The North wrote:

| Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an electron-wave.
Would
| that model accomodate observations?


No.
Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
models if you wish to understand.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
Androcles


Katzebrude.

The electron is a particle. The electron is a wave. It is both.

Fields are places where ones finds dogs mating.

Wave-particle duality is the result of a continuous-discrete duality, and
this continuous-discrete duality is easily explained by allowing
Plancklength graduations to be oriented arbitrarily, not fixed, but sliding
arbitrarily.

Cars are indeed waves, electrons are waves, photons are waves, and sometimes
bull**** comes in waves like a tsunami.

The universe has no geometric origin. There is no cosmic (0,0,0,0). Planck
length chunks of dimension are not numbered. Their configuration is
arbitrary, and so is the location of the origin (as a corollary).

I explained the whole thing already. For Pete's sakes -

For any two points in the universe there is a path of zero distance
connecting those points. It has zero length because it is composed of
trivial points. Obviously, there are also points which are not trivial, and
so ........


gotta run -------

Y. Porat
----------------------
most probably
run to the pub --take his wives(or mothers ) money ---and buy some
bottles of whiskey !!
we can smell these guys as far as from the south pole

Y.Porat
---------------------------------


nightbat

Hello Porat why has it been so long since you posted to
alt.astronomy where I reside and how are things over in sci.physics the
home of mainstream profound scientists and researchers. How is your
family and work coming along? We touched on some many like thoughts and
still going after the clueless I see. Androcles however is a special
case very profound. Nice seeing you still posting and do please post
here more often for your misunderstood profoundness is well respected.

cheers,
the nightbat

"Felix of The North" wrote in message
. ..
|
| | Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an electron-wave.
| Would
| | that model accomodate observations?
|
|
| No.
| Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
| Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
| models if you wish to understand.
| http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
| Androcles
|
|
| Katzebrude.
|
| The electron is a particle. The electron is a wave. It is both.


Ah... we have another Roberts, I see, another one stark staring mad.
Electrons are waves...
This is PHYSICS, not math or logic, and "proof" is completely irrelevant.
Ref: om


|
| Fields are places where ones finds dogs mating.
|
| Wave-particle duality is the result of a continuous-discrete duality, and
| this continuous-discrete duality is easily explained by allowing
| Plancklength graduations to be oriented arbitrarily, not fixed, but
sliding
| arbitrarily.

Humpty Roberts let out a great sigh.
" sigh", he said.
"The nuances of English. I was discussing the usage of words and
not the concepts they represent."
-- Tom Humpty Roberts
om

|
| Cars are indeed waves, electrons are waves, photons are waves, and
sometimes
| bull**** comes in waves like a tsunami.


You've got that right, and you've got plenty of it.

|
| The universe has no geometric origin. There is no cosmic (0,0,0,0). Planck
| length chunks of dimension are not numbered. Their configuration is
| arbitrary, and so is the location of the origin (as a corollary).
|
| I explained the whole thing already. For Pete's sakes -
|
| For any two points in the universe there is a path of zero distance
| connecting those points. It has zero length because it is composed of
| trivial points. Obviously, there are also points which are not trivial,
and
| so ........
|
|
| gotta run -------

Is that because the men in white coats have arrived?
Androcles

| | Suppose that the electron is the minimum quantum of an
electron-wave.
| Would
| | that model accomodate observations?
|
|
| No.
| Cars are not waves. Electrons are not waves. Photons are not waves.
| Wave models are incorrect. Replace them with field models and particle
| models if you wish to understand.
| http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...lina/Drive.htm
| Androcles
|
|
| Katzebrude.
|
| The electron is a particle. The electron is a wave. It is both.


Ah... we have another Roberts, I see, another one stark staring mad.
Electrons are waves...
This is PHYSICS, not math or logic, and "proof" is completely
irrelevant.
Ref: om


|
| Fields are places where ones finds dogs mating.
|
| Wave-particle duality is the result of a continuous-discrete duality,
and
| this continuous-discrete duality is easily explained by allowing
| Plancklength graduations to be oriented arbitrarily, not fixed, but
sliding
| arbitrarily.

Humpty Roberts let out a great sigh.
" sigh", he said.
"The nuances of English. I was discussing the usage of words and
not the concepts they represent."
-- Tom Humpty Roberts
om

|
| Cars are indeed waves, electrons are waves, photons are waves, and
sometimes
| bull**** comes in waves like a tsunami.


You've got that right, and you've got plenty of it.


They'll be calling me the father of modern bull****. But you can just call
me dad. : )


| The universe has no geometric origin. There is no cosmic (0,0,0,0).
Planck
| length chunks of dimension are not numbered. Their configuration is
| arbitrary, and so is the location of the origin (as a corollary).
|
| I explained the whole thing already. For Pete's sakes -
|
| For any two points in the universe there is a path of zero distance
| connecting those points. It has zero length because it is composed of
| trivial points. Obviously, there are also points which are not trivial,
and
| so ........
|
|
| gotta run -------

Is that because the men in white coats have arrived?
Androcles


No, it's because my wife is a madwoman who has no appreciation for science,
and if she catches me on the computer her head will probably explode - so I
have to post on the sly.

greysky wrote:
Begin Part One

In chapter one, book three, of "The Feynman Lectures On Physics", Professor
Richard Feynman had this to say about the double slit experiment:

"We choose to examine a phenomenon which is impossible, absolutely
impossible, to explain in any classical way, and which has in it the heart
of quantum mechanics. In reality, it contains the only mystery. We cannot
make the mystery go away by explaining how it works. We will just tell you
how it works. In telling you how it works we will have told you about the
basic peculiarities of all quantum mechanics."
Greysky

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Guys. There is a way to resolve this double slit mystery. We tend
to think that the electron is in two places at the same time (in the 2
slits or formally in the copenhagen interpretation its wave function
passing thru each and interfering) but what if the electron
is not in two places at the same time but in no space. That
is. Before decoherence sets in. Quantum objects is located not in
space. This concept ties in with the theoretical exploration that there
is something more fundamental than space and time meaning
there is some kind of energy that make up space-time itself and
matter. This energy is without space and time and not matter
yet its combination can create space/time and matter.
So in the double slit experiment. The electron as quantum
object is located not in space but exist as energy
form with wave characteristic and the physical world attribute
only occurs as a only of decohence when entanglement with
the environment creates the classical world. A physicist even
argues that perhaps electron and quantum objects are not
really located in space and time but particles themselves
create space and time although I tend to think there is a
third party involved in both the creation of space/time and
matter. What do you think guys? Pls. refer me to any arvix
articles that explore similar idea. Tnx.

dm