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If Apollo 1 had been successful, what was the goal of the mission? You always hear of the fire, but I've never heard what the plan was. Was threre Apollo 2 & 3? My videos only tell of 4,5 & 6 being unmanned tests of the Saturn V. From various NASA sources, here is a 1966-67 chronology of AS-204 (Apollo 1), other planned manned missions, and how they were numbered and renumbered. NASA was constantly changing the schedules, so this should be looked at as a snapshot in time. -February 26, 1966 A suborbital launch vehicle development test of the Saturn IB was carried out; an Apollo block I CSM served as payload (AS-201) -July 5, 1966 A successful orbital launch vehicle development test of the Saturn IB (for a time called Uprated Saturn I) was conducted. The flight was an orbital test of how liquid hydrogen reacted in a weightless environment. An Apollo CSM was not flown on this flight. (AS-203). -August 25, 1966 A second suborbital test of the Saturn IB with an Apollo block I CSM was launched successfully. (AS-202) -October 19, 1966 It was announced that the crew of the first manned Apollo mission, AS-204, would be Virgil I. Grissom, Edward H. White, II, and Roger B. Chaffee. The earth-orbital flight was scheduled for February 12, 1967. (NASA Historical Data Book - Volume 2) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1988016045.pdf Apollo-Saturn 204 was to be the first manned Apollo mission, NASA announced through the manned space flight Centers. The news release, prepared at NASA Hq., said the decision had been made following a Design Certification Review Board meeting held the previous week at OMSF. The launch date had not been determined. Crewmen for the flight would be Virgil I. Grissom, command pilot; Edward H. White II, senior pilot; and Roger B. Chaffee, pilot. The backup crew would be James A. McDivitt, command pilot; David R. Scott, senior pilot; and Russell L. Schweickart, pilot. The AS-204 spacecraft would be launched by an uprated Saturn I launch vehicle on its earth-orbital mission "to demonstrate spacecraft and crew operations and evaluate spacecraft hardware performance in earth orbit." TWX, NASA Hq. M-N-311 to KSC, MSC, MSFC, Oct. 19, 1966. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -Decemer 15, 1966 News briefing on Project Apollo was held at Manned Spacecraft Center, Houston. Dr. Joseph Shea, manager of NASA Apollo Spacecraft Office at MSC, said NASA hoped to launch three manned Apollo mission in 1967 involving "essentialy every test that needs to ge done in order to insure that the lunar operation is proper." He outlined the flights: (1) AS-204 - three-man, earth-orbital mission of up to 14 days to check out crew, spacecraft, and ground equipment; (2) AS-205/208 - 10 to 12-day flight in which Uprated Saturn I boosters would launch an Apollo (block II) spacecraft with three-man crew and an unmanned Lunar Module (LM) on successive days for rendezvous mission: and (3) AS-503 - full-duration lunar mission rehearsal in earth orbit in which single Saturn V would launch manned Apollo spacecraft and LM. Grissom confirmed that AS-204 mission would carry camera for live television coverage. (Astronautics and Aeronautics, 1966) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1967029479.pdf -Decemer 22, 1966 NASA announced crew selection for the second and third manned Apollo missions. Prime crew for AS-205/208 would be James A. McDivitt, commander; David R. Scott, CM pilot; and Russell L. Schweickart, LM pilot. The backup crew would be Thomas P. Stafford, commander; John W. Young, CM pilot; and Eugene A. Cernan, LM pilot. The crew for AS-503, the first manned mission to be launched by a Saturn V, would be Frank Borman, commander; Michael Collins, CM pilot; and William A. Anders, LM pilot. The backup crew would be Charles Conrad, Jr., commander; Richard F. Gordon, Jr., CM pilot; and Clifton C. Williams, Jr., LM pilot. NASA News Release 66-326, "NASA Names Crews [or Apollo Flights," Dec. 22, 1966. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -January 3, 1967 B. Kaskey, Bellcomm, Inc., gave NASA Apollo Program Director Samuel C. Phillips three reasons why an AS-204 rescue of or rendezvous with a biosatellite would be impracticable: (1) The Block I spacecraft hatch was not designed to open and reseal in space, therefore no extravehicular activity could be planned for AS-204. (2) The launch window for 204 was five hours on each day, set by lighting available for launch aborts and normal recovery; rendezvous would reduce the launch window to minutes. (3) More than half of the reaction control system propellant was committed because of the requirement that deorbit be possible on every orbit without use of the service propulsion system. Phillips sent the information to ASPO Manager Joseph F. Shea at MSC. Note, Kaskey to Phillips, NASA Hq., "Working Note," Jan. 3, 1967. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -January 19, 1967 Testing of CSM 012 at Downey, Calif., and KSC revealed numerous failures in the communications cable assembly caused by broken wiring, bent pins, and connector malfunctions. Certain design deficiencies in the system had been remedied by adding adapter cables in series with the cobra cable, but these additions had resulted in additional weak points in the system and in an unacceptably cumbersome cable assembly connected to crew members. For these reasons, Donald K. Slayton, Director of Flight Crew Operations, ruled the existing communications assembly unsafe for flight and requested that the biomedical tee adapter, cobra cable, sleep adapter, and noise eliminator be combined into one new cobra cable for CSM 012. Memo, Slayton to Manager, ASPO, "Communications cables [or Spacecraft 012," Jan. 18, 1967. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -January 27, 1967 Fire sweeping through command module 012 atop its Saturn IB launch vehicle at Launch Complex 34, KSC, took the lives of the three-man crew scheduled for the first manned Apollo space flight. ASPO Manager Joseph F. Shea sent a flash report to NASA Hq. : "During a simulated countdown for mission AS-204 on January 27, 1967, an accident occurred in CM 012. This was a manned test with the prime astronaut crew on board. A fire occurred inside the command module resulting in the death of the three astronauts and as yet undetermined damage to the command and service modules." The launch had been scheduled for February 21. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -February 14, 1967 Command module 012 was scheduled for removal from its launch vehicle February 17 because of satisfactory progress in removing systems from it. "Board Proceedings," p. 3-21. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -February 16, 1967 NASA Deputy Administrator Robert C. Seamans, Jr., informed Associate Administrator for Manned Space Flight George E. Mueller that, in view of the interim nature of schedule outlook for manned uprated Saturn I and Saturn V missions, he had decided to show these missions as "Under Study" in the Official NASA Flight Schedule for February 1967. As soon as firm approved dates for the missions were available the schedule would be updated. He said that all participants in the Apollo program should be advised that--except for unmanned missions 206, 501, and 502--official agency schedule commitments had not been made and certainly could not be quoted until management assessments of the program had been completed and schedules approved by the Office of the Administrator. Memo, Seamans to Mueller, "Official NASA Apollo Schedules for Manned Missions," Feb. 16, 1967 (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -February 20, 1967 The Apollo 204 Review Board approved a plan to remove the spacecraft 012 service module from the launch vehicle on February 21. The service module was to be taken to the Manned Spacecraft Operations Building at KSC for detailed examination and testing. Board Chairman Floyd Thompson directed that a plan be developed to release Launch Complex 34 from impoundage and to return it to KSC for normal use after the SM was removed. Preparations were being made to remove the aft heatshield from the command module to permit inspection of the CM floor from the lower side. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -February 23, 1967 The spacecraft-lunar module adapter (SLA) was removed from the launch vehicle and moved to the Manned Spacecraft Operations Building for examination. "Board Proceedings," pp. 3-24, 3-25, 3-55 through 3-59. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -March 20, 1967 NASA announced it would use the Apollo-Saturn 204 launch vehicle to launch the first lunar module on its unmanned test flight. Since the 204 vehicle was prepared and was not damaged in the Apollo 204 fire in January, it would be used instead of the originally planned AS-206. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -April 24, 1967 OMSF (Office of Manned Space Flight) further instructed Centers that AS-204 would be officially recorded as Apollo 1, "first manned Apollo Saturn filght-failed on ground test." AS-201, AS-202, and AS-203 would not be renumbered in the "Apollo" series, and the next mission would be Apollo 4. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -May 4, 1967 Directions had been prepared to designate mission AS-501 formally as Apollo 4, AS-204/LM- 1 as Apollo 5, and AS-502 as Apollo 6, NASA Apollo Program Director Samuel C. Phillips informed Associate Administrator for Manned Space Flight George E. Mueller. Phillips said he thought it was the right time to start using the designations in official releases and appropriate internal documentation. Mueller concurred. Note, Phillips to Mueller, May 4, 1967. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -December 19, 1967 NASA announced an Apollo mission schedule calling for six flights in 1968 and five in 1969. NASA Associate Administrator for Manned Space Flight George E. Mueller said the schedule and alternative plans provided a schedule under which a limited number of Apollo command and service modules and lunar landing modules, configured for lunar landing might be launched on test flights toward the moon by the end of the decade. Apollo/uprated Saturn I flights were identified with a 200 series number; Saturn V flights were identified with a 500 series number. The 1968 schedule was : -Apollo/Saturn 204--first unmanned test of the LM in earth orbit -Apollo/Saturn 502--second unmanned flight test of the Saturn V and Apollo CSM -Apollo/Saturn 503--third unmanned test of the Saturn V and Apollo CSM -Apollo/Saturn 206--second unmanned flight test of LM in earth orbit -Apollo/Saturn 205--first Apollo manned flight, a 10-day mission to qualify the CSM for further manned missions -Apollo/Saturn 504--first manned Apollo flight on Saturn V. This mission would provide first manned operation in space with both the CSM and LM, including crew transfer from CSM to LM and rendezvous and docking. These flights would be flown in the above order and as rapidly as all necessary preparations could be completed. The 1969 flight schedule called for five manned Apollo/Saturn V flights, AS-505 through AS-509. Four of these--505, 506, 507, and 508--were programmed as lunar mission development flights or lunar mission simulations. It was considered possible that the lunar landing could be made on Apollo/Saturn 509, but it was also possible this might be delayed until one of the remaining six Saturn V flights. (The Apollo spacecraft: A chronology volume 4, 21 January 1966 - 13 July 1974) http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/ca...1980011953.pdf -Rusty |
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http://www.astronautix.com/articles/youelled.htm ....And as I was about to post that link, the author himself delurks and beats me to it. Tell us, O father of Evolvo Lad, what's up and coming on EA that we should look forward to? Perhaps finally an entry for Roy Flemming on the Phantom Cosmonauts page, along with Lee Stegler? OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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![]() Brian Thorn wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:58:07 GMT, PowerPost2000 wrote: If Apollo 1 had been successful, what was the goal of the mission? You always hear of the fire, but I've never heard what the plan was. Essentially the same as the later Apollo 7. Was threre Apollo 2 & 3? My videos only tell of 4,5 & 6 being unmanned tests of the Saturn V. NASA was thinking of Grissom's mission (AS-204) as Apollo 4 (with unmanned AS-201 to 203 presumably being Apollo 1-3), but Grissom wanted it called Apollo 1 and wouldn't take 'no' for an answer. After the Fire, NASA acquiesced and just skipped 2 and 3 (since there were three, not two unmanned Saturn-Apollo flights already and no way to retroactively designate them and make any sense) and went straight on to 4. The Apollo 1, Apollo 4, etc. identifiers only appeared after the AS-204 fire, due largely to the insistence of the news media. The original plan, which made perfect sense, was to use the "AS-2XX" identifiers for the Saturn IB missions and the "AS-5XX" identifiers for the Saturn V missions. There were never supposed to be Apollo [Number] identifiers, and I think that NASA never officially dropped the "AS-NNN" system in-house. The first manned landing occurred during the AS-506 mission. - Ed Kyle |
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Malcolm Bacchus wrote: *** Whether they were SA or AS was a debate between, unsurprising, Marshall and Houston. Marshall wanted the launcher name first, Houston wanted the s/c... Houston officially won that battle -- HQ decided that AS was to be used for the mission as a whole -- but you'll still find SA in some Marshall documents. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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Houston officially won that battle -- HQ decided that AS was to be
used for the mission as a whole -- but you'll still find SA in some Marshall documents. Hence the switch in my list from SA-203 to AS-204. I only put the footnote in to explain the change. The battle wasn't germane to the issue in question of Apollo numbering. In fact, I think Marshall continued to use the SA number as a designation for the integrated booster, but the AS number was used as the designation for the booster plus s/c. A sort of compromise. Malcolm B |
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:58:07 GMT, PowerPost2000 wrote:
If Apollo 1 had been successful, what was the goal of the mission? You always hear of the fire, but I've never heard what the plan was. Was threre Apollo 2 & 3? My videos only tell of 4,5 & 6 being unmanned tests of the Saturn V. For an excellent, thorough summary of what the Apollo 204 missions would have been like, see APOLLO: THe LOst and Forgotten Missions by David Shayler. There's also a fine summary of the planned lunar EVAs for Apollo 13,too |
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