Negating Plate Tectonics - Strike 6

Kermit wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Kermit wrote:

Kermit,
who has always rather relied on reality, in his own perverse way.

Hah, ..You said it, mate... :-)

Next time I see the results of what they mistakenly believe to be an
auto collision, I'll pull over, and tell the police:
"These cars didn't collide. It's obviously the result of rapid road
expansion. You twenty-year veterens of highway patrol are confused -
when a road expands rapidly, it is bound to leave auto parts scattered
over one another like this. Sure, we didn't actually *see the road
expand, and I have no explanation why it should, but the pattern of the
parts from these cars makes it obvious.

Hey, ...Kermit, ..
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ng/truck.html

Scientists consider all the time the possibility that
their favorite ideas are wrong

Well, ..I don't see much evidence of this, ...not here at any rate

- if they don't, then rivals will do it
for them.

But I do see some of this, but my efforts are rather unwelcome


We have thought more deeply, harder, and in greater detail about your
own ideas than you have. You have not given even passing thought to the
consequences.

Issue one:
Where does the added mass come from?
Why is there no indication it happens anywhere else?
How does it maintain angular momentum?
How does it know to become mantle, and not nitroglycerin or cotton
candy? (Which is most chemically complex?)
Why doesn't it destroy the surface of the Earth?
Why are there no indications Earth's mass has increased?
Why did it stop? When did it start?

Issue two:
How are spin and expansion related? You wiggled your eyebrows
mysteriously and said they were, but not neessarily causally.
How are they related?
Statistically - with a data point of one, what would the connection be?
If you include other heavenly bodies, you must have an opinion on
whether they expand or not. Do they?
What do you mean by spinning? Is the moon spinning?
If they are not connected statistically or causally, in what way *are
they connected?

There are other issues, but these two intrigue me this week. I can't
seem to find answers to either on your website. If you have answered
either of these groups of questions and I missed it, I apologize. Just
provide the link.

Oh, have you indeed (thought), ...? Well, ..I have given more than
passing thought to the consequences, but regard them not directly
within the ambit of geology, and certainly not germane to the
discussion here regarding the conclusion that the Earth has got bigger.
You are talking theory as to mechanism, and I keep saying, put that
aside for the time being. What *IS* on the table, and will be for the
next number of decades is the veracity of the geological 'evidence' -
not the theory of the dynamics.

Still it's good to see that you are prepared to lay aside the nonsense
of plate tectonics and move forward. I think there is considerable
unpicking to do in that 'PT' regard. It would be a constructive move
on your part if you would contribute to some of the nonsenses that a
lay person might see. Because it is evidently lay people,
schoolchildren and students who will point the finger at this nonsense.
Those with the most vested interest in the "gift that keeps on giving"
have no intention of educating you. Which is why they are not here.
Those interested (in education) have to do that job themselves.



Kermit,
who is confident he knows how Don will answer.

Well, you spotted the deliberate error, ..how did you go this time?

wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Strike 6:- Another strike, The collapse of the Himalayan edifice over
the Indian Craton
Exactly as Earth Expansion says (only it's not me saying it), and not
at all as Plate Tectonics touts for its "mountain building".

How, exactly, does the theory that the crust is expanding from the
mid-Atlantic ridge predict that rocks fall south? In my universe, rocks
fall down. Are you now challenging gravity as well as plate tectonics?

You're the one who exhumed the Atlantic here, .not me. I'm counting
another strike for the idiocy I got to put up with. (So there.) It's
just too much. I'm getting fatigued.



I'm counting this as strike 6.

don findlay wrote:
wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Strike 6:- Another strike, The collapse of the Himalayan edifice over
the Indian Craton
Exactly as Earth Expansion says (only it's not me saying it), and not
at all as Plate Tectonics touts for its "mountain building".

How, exactly, does the theory that the crust is expanding from the
mid-Atlantic ridge predict that rocks fall south? In my universe, rocks
fall down. Are you now challenging gravity as well as plate tectonics?

You're the one who exhumed the Atlantic here, .not me. I'm counting
another strike for the idiocy I got to put up with. (So there.) It's
just too much. I'm getting fatigued.

You keep using that word 'strike.' I don' thin' it means what you thin'
it means.

The word I think you're fumbling toward is 'home run.' As in 'I've been
pitching a perfect game; every batter I've faced has swatted one out of
the park.'

Oh, and one does not score an 'own goal' (as you suggested in another
post) in the same game where one may throw strikes.

Are you an American?

Tom McDonald wrote:
don findlay wrote:
wrote:
don findlay wrote:
Strike 6:- Another strike, The collapse of the Himalayan edifice over
the Indian Craton
Exactly as Earth Expansion says (only it's not me saying it), and not
at all as Plate Tectonics touts for its "mountain building".

How, exactly, does the theory that the crust is expanding from the
mid-Atlantic ridge predict that rocks fall south? In my universe, rocks
fall down. Are you now challenging gravity as well as plate tectonics?

You're the one who exhumed the Atlantic here, .not me. I'm counting
another strike for the idiocy I got to put up with. (So there.) It's
just too much. I'm getting fatigued.

You keep using that word 'strike.' I don' thin' it means what you thin'
it means.

The word I think you're fumbling toward is 'home run.' As in 'I've been
pitching a perfect game; every batter I've faced has swatted one out of
the park.'

Oh, and one does not score an 'own goal' (as you suggested in another
post) in the same game where one may throw strikes.

Are you an American?

I don't know what game you're talking about. A home run is what the
limber Timber does when his bowel movement gets the better of his
movement and he has to hoof it as fast he can on those hairy shapely
legs o' his.

Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

"don findlay" wrote in message
oups.com...
Strike 6:- Another strike, The collapse of the Himalayan edifice over
the Indian Craton
Exactly as Earth Expansion says (only it's not me saying it), and not
at all as Plate Tectonics touts for its "mountain building".

will1 wrote:
Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

Not you too, Jim, ..come off it. You might be an old guy (like me) but
you're not there yet. 'Elevation' and 'Residual Curvature' applies to
the base as well as the top. Meaning young collapses over young, but
so does older collapse over younger. Surely we understand at least
this in common. Unlike Plate Tectonics which wants plates to 'move'
on the spot without moving their boundaries, and phrase 3-dimensional
dynamics in terms of two, ...3-dimensional Residual Earth Curvature is
very much a moving, living thrusting spreading dynamic thing - which
can also be measured by gps if you're fussy. But there's no need.
(Hell, ..even the weather has it tagged.)

What CAN you be thinking? Your just joshing, right? ...to wind them
up... I know...

In article .com,
"don findlay" wrote:

will1 wrote:
Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

Not you too, Jim, ..come off it. You might be an old guy (like me) but
you're not there yet. 'Elevation' and 'Residual Curvature' applies to
the base as well as the top. Meaning young collapses over young, but
so does older collapse over younger.

How exactly is this supposed to happen?

Surely we understand at least
this in common. Unlike Plate Tectonics which wants plates to 'move'
on the spot without moving their boundaries,

Liar. It's been explained to you how plates move.

and phrase 3-dimensional
dynamics in terms of two, ...3-dimensional Residual Earth Curvature is
very much a moving, living thrusting spreading dynamic thing - which
can also be measured by gps if you're fussy. But there's no need.
(Hell, ..even the weather has it tagged.)

Liar. GPS has been used to add precision to measurements of the
movements of landmasses ... in altitude as well as horizontally.
Interestingly, it shows no evidence of earth expansion.

What CAN you be thinking? Your just joshing, right? ...to wind them
up... I know...

--
Timberwoof me at timberwoof dot com http://www.timberwoof.com

don findlay wrote:
will1 wrote:
Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

Not you too, Jim, ..

.... Sorry about that Will, ..I guess that's what it is to be an old
guy, ...It's hard keeping track of who's who, much less their
arguments, .. hopping and skipping like Moon Shadows in the forest on
Hallowe'en.

(Tie me Kangaroos down sport, ....)

don findlay wrote:

don findlay wrote:
will1 wrote:
Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

Not you too, Jim, ..

... Sorry about that Will, ..I guess that's what it is to be an old
guy, ...It's hard keeping track of who's who, much less their
arguments, .. hopping and skipping like Moon Shadows in the forest on
Hallowe'en.

The voices in your head tell you what to type, right?

--D.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:56:07 +0000 (UTC), in talk.origins , David Iain
Greig in
wrote:

don findlay wrote:

don findlay wrote:
will1 wrote:
Don, the paper says older Precambrian rocks thrusting over, on top of, the
younger Indian rocks. Earth expansion DOES NOT explain this,but instead,
this is explained by plate tectonics. STRIKE 7, YOU ARE OUT! PLONK! Happy to
talk to you on another topic sometime, but this one is dead. Will E.

Not you too, Jim, ..

... Sorry about that Will, ..I guess that's what it is to be an old
guy, ...It's hard keeping track of who's who, much less their
arguments, .. hopping and skipping like Moon Shadows in the forest on
Hallowe'en.

The voices in your head tell you what to type, right?

I get very upset when the voices in my head tell other people what to
type.


--
Matt Silberstein

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