How fast?

| You will not get a correct answer among people here or anywhere on the
| internet insofar as they use a calendrically driven celestial sphere
| where the Earth's axial and orbital orientation share a common axis.
It is not a put down,it is just the system they consider convenient for
| Ra/Dec is hopeless for comparing changes in orientations which are
| central to your observations and your questions.

Neither will you get an answer among the people here or anywhere on the internet that agrees with
Gezza.
jc :-)

Here is what you believe -

http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif

That 17th century hemispherical concoction based on variable axial
tilt to the Sun or orbital plane is just slightly more advanced than a
flat Earth.

The poster's original question remains a good one and I hope he
pursues despite the hideous obstacles placed in his way as it leads to
all sorts of productive avenues.

Btw
I apologise to Laury for the poor way the text in my last reply showed
up.

So the homogeneity of the CMB tells you what ?

(and how did you get out of the killfile ?)

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John Carruthers
http://mysite.freeserve.com/jc_atm/
"oriel36" wrote in message
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Here is what you believe -

http://www.diduknow.info/sun/images/high_low_sun.gif

That 17th century hemispherical concoction based on variable axial
tilt to the Sun or orbital plane is just slightly more advanced than a
flat Earth.

The poster's original question remains a good one and I hope he
pursues despite the hideous obstacles placed in his way as it leads to
all sorts of productive avenues.

Btw
I apologise to Laury for the poor way the text in my last reply showed
up.

Just a thought, to be awkward.

When you're standing still your not moving at all. The motion that you're
trying to describe is your motion relative to a point which is in sync to
the edge of the known universe. The problem with trying to say generally
how fast you you moving is that it can vary. To give a couple of examples.

You're stood still at a the side of the street. A car is comming towards
you at 40 mph. This means that relative to the car you are travelling at
40mph! You are getting closer to the car afterall. A bike is comming at you
from the opposite side and is travelling at 30 mph. Relative to the bike you
are travelling at 30 mph. But, the car is travelling at 70mph relative to
the bike.

Move this up to a cosmic scale, there is a black hole, not moving (this is
you) a galactic cluster is moving toward it at .75 of the speed of light
(this is the car) A galaxy (the bike) is moving toward the black hole from
the oppisite direction at .6 of the speed of light. The black hole could be
moving at .6 or .75 of the speed of light depending on what you are
measuring. It's all relative. Lets remove the black hole. You now have
the galaxy and galactic cluster on a collision course. Their closing speed
is 1.25 time the speed of light. This is a rather nasty thought as the
galaxy would see the galactic cluster comming!

OK, so I've digressed a little, but the point is that speed is relative.
There's no reason, AFAIK, that we're not already travelling faster than the
speed of light relative to something. The big bang theory as it is not
enought proof for me, as we could easily be talking about two of what we
currently consider at a universe could be on a collision course. Now
that's a scary thought.


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Regards

Colin Dawson
www.cjdawson.com

"Laury" wrote in message
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I was trying to find out how fast I am travelling when I stand still.

I discovered:
Earth rotation is 1000 mph at equator(0.3 miles/s)
Earth moves round sun 18.5 m/s (66,000 mph)
Sun moves round galaxy 155 m/s galaxy
Galaxy moves wrt local cluster 185 m/s.

But couldn't find out what the various directions are. What I need to
know still a
1. At what time of year do we move round the sun in the 'same'
direction as the sun is moving round the galaxy; and what is the angle
between thes motions?
2. What is the angle between the motion round galaxy, and the motion
wrt local cluster.

Anyone know where I can find this?
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Laury

"Colin Dawson" wrote in message
k...
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| OK, so I've digressed a little, but the point is that speed is
relative.

Well thanks for those thoughts. Let me know if you find a source for
the angles I was seeking, e.g., the angles between the various
(relative) motions.

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Laury