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Old January 28th 06, 12:39 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote...

[actually, did NOT write]

Oops, Jim, sorry, your instincts were spot on,
and I was naive to give the Russians the
benefit of the doubt ... I'll be warier in the future.

JimO adds: But no, he didn't write that... grin



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Old January 28th 06, 12:47 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Rusty" wrote
I found the same picture on the Challenger.org website without the Russian
captions:


Well done! Space historians the world over are grateful!

Seriously -- thanks, Rusty. A tribute to your eye/brain/mnemonic functions,
and
to the power of space newsgroups.

Now, of course, the Russified version did not CLAIM it was
an original piece of art -- they just let viewers assume so.


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Jim Oberg wrote:

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote...

[actually, did NOT write]

Oops, Jim, sorry, your instincts were spot on,
and I was naive to give the Russians the
benefit of the doubt ... I'll be warier in the future.

JimO adds: But no, he didn't write that... grin


They are our international space partners, Jim.

Get over it.

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Neil Fraser wrote:

Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??



I hope it's not NASA. Those solar panels are attached horizontally by
a single point. Great in space, but they'll snap off in lunar gravity.



I want to know what's in the sphere on the back of the rover- is that
supposed to be a reactor?

Pat
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Jim Logajan wrote:

"Jim Oberg" wrote:


Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??



Why do you think it is stolen?



Once again the ugly American doubts ability of Russia to produce
world-class space machinery, like N-1 rocket - whose early plans were
stolen by Hitlerite Hooligan von Braun for pathetic "Colliers" article
calling for enslavement of all working people under terrible threat of
big round wheel space station hanging overhead like bloated Capitalist-
Zionist bagel.
HAH! Mighty Taran cosmorocket interceptor would toast space bagel and
crew of imperialist war-mongers with ease of snapping dissident's arm on
cold Lubyanka day.
Space Shuttle is nothing but cheap knock-off copy of Mighty Buran
Shuttle, which was first designed by Myasishchev in 1936.
But stupid Americans used cheap silica tiles rather than pig-iron ingots
for heat protection as original plan called for, so is no wonder that
"Space Shuttle" is "Space ****tle" when comes to working right! :-)

Pat
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And vise versa.

I laughed when I noticed a Great New Plan for satellites in an Amirican
Magazine:

You can launch comsats into 12 hour elliptical orbits.

Just came 20 years after they invented Molniya.

But a lot of the ideas the Soviets carried out came from Western
sources, or they did them just before the west did them.

Regards

Carsten Nielsen
Denmark

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Old January 28th 06, 07:29 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote
They are our international space partners, Jim.
Get over it.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org


OK, we give them a pass to violate international copyright, no big deal.
What other international agreements would you give them passes to violate?
grin


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Old January 28th 06, 07:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Jim Oberg wrote:

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote


They are our international space partners, Jim.
Get over it.


OK, we give them a pass to violate international copyright, no big deal.


Why don't you call up Roger Arno and ask him what he thinks?

What other international agreements would you give them passes to violate?


You mean this NASA?

Climate Expert Says NASA Tried to Silence Him

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: January 29, 2006

The top climate scientist at NASA says the

"Bush administration has tried to stop him from
speaking out since he gave a lecture last month
calling for prompt reductions in emissions of
greenhouse gases linked to global warming."

http://nytimes.com/2006/01/29/scienc...rtner=homepage

NASA - Protecting George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan ...

as only NASA can!

You know, I think I'll have to go
with James Hansen on this one.

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Pat Flannery wrote:


Rusty wrote:

In the larger image on the Challenger.org website, you can see the
artists signature on
the picture. It appears to be signed by Roger Arno.



Capitalist lies! Picture says "Russians Are Now!"- is salute to the
"hip" and "with it" nature of Russian society of today, where everyone
is a "cool cat", and no more do "power trips" of old order afflict the
populace with their "heaviness".
Would write more, but is time to go to coffee house for beat poetry
reading. Tonight former KGB officer tells how he beat poets as he is
accompanied by bongo drum. Will be very "waycool" and "trippy". ;-)


The only people drinking electric Koolaid are the NASA employees
who think that a CEV Schtick will result in the illustrated moonbase.

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'Plonk' time when you run away from questions you
don't want to have to answer. Chicken-n-n-n-n-n-n-n.......

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message
...
Jim Oberg wrote:

"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote


They are our international space partners, Jim.
Get over it.


OK, we give them a pass to violate international copyright, no big deal.


Why don't you call up Roger Arno and ask him what he thinks?

What other international agreements would you give them passes to
violate?


You mean this NASA?



 




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