U.S. forced to give up control of internet to Iran & China

Charles D. Bohne wrote:

On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:23:37 GMT, "Greysky"
wrote:

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...

|There are still dozens of unanswered questions but all the answers are
|pointing the same way: international governments deciding the internet's
|future. The internet will never be the same again.

I partly agree with you .. nevertheless, what did you expect after
you re-elected Bush and appointed John R. Bolton - US Ambassador to the
UN?
C.

Ah, Chuck never misses a chance to spew his anti-American bigotry.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."

"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."

-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004

nightbat wrote:

nightbat wrote

Greysky wrote:

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...

nightbat

What, giving up the net helm to such an organization as the UN
is poppycock! Most disturbing news indeed I say Officer Greysky. No this
can't be for the UN has been known not to be able to control all its
members from wide spread documented Nation abuse and missing oil for
food funds too. We don't need a peaceful world wide represented
bureaucratic member organization funded by the US to intrude on the net
comm. Your getting the present net to work just right with local
control is difficult enough and I can't imagine your trying to find out
who skewed up what in control of so many cultural different languages
too. The FTL net messages Science Officer sent far into the distant
galactic space or future was instrumental I'm sure in helping make first
contact Sean Race possible.

Come on this can't be happening, we science invent and get it all set up
only to be taken over by UN arguing body, oh the humanity.

carry on,
the nightbat

oh the stupidity.

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler

"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."

"Human beings CAN NOT live in a solar system without a sun
with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."

-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004

Jan Panteltje wrote in
news:1128635426.521ad60868c663fdff917b046000ffb4@t eranews:

On a sunny day (Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:23:37 GMT) it happened "Greysky"
wrote in
:

When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for
the United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it
for exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our
leaders are going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a
bunch of terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are
represented by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...
Politics..
I agree, the US has done a great job so far with maintaining the
registry. It sort of concerns me, as I am running a name server......
For me (as European) it does not need to change, US is very much a free
speech country, unlike China and some others, Russia, what not.
Not even the Netherlands is free speech...at least they want to put
legislation through that will jail people suggesting we should nuke Iran
flat.... Or other kind of old fashioned imperialism.
Germany is blocking some (US) ultra right sites... Dunno about France.

So here I clearly divert from the EU point of view, but then EU point of
view need not be EU parliament pov (but dunno on this one).
I would like the US to remain in charge, because of freedom of speech
and freedom of commerce, and proven track record.
And one central point is a good thing in this case.




I agree the US have done a good job. If someone wants to set up their own
root servers then there is nothing to stop them by the way. A while ago a
group (called themselves the "AlterNIC") was threatening to do just that
because they were getting tired of the delays in the new TLD's being
allocated. That issue is now dead. The only ones you see whining are
government bureacracies and the more totallitarian, the bigger the whine.

Klazmon.

"Greysky" wrote:
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

Why do you want the ITU, a technical organization that publishes the
recommendations that make the global phone systems interoperate, to
shove its head up your ass?

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving
[ Elided ]

Calm down. The article "isn't even wrong." "Control of the Internet"
is hyperbole on the part of the author of that article.

Here's what I hope is a clearer explanation of the choices being made:

As you all know, there are 13 generally accepted root name servers (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_nameserver for a list and explanation
for those who need a refresher). They are well dispersed both physically
around the globe and with regard to fiscal control. As a result, the U.S.
claim to root DNS control is neither more nor less strong than European
or Asian claims. ICANN, a U.S. based organization, ironically has no
direct control over the root name servers. So far as I know, ICANN acts
as a central control for the contents of the root name servers mostly by
accepted convention - there are no contractual or legal obligations
between ICANN and the root servers.

Karl Auerbach, who served on the ICANN board as the first (and last)
North American representative for the short period that ICANN allowed
elected representatives on their board, basically (with the help of the
Electronic Frontier Foundation) had to sue ICANN to get access to ICANN
records so he could perform his board duties. Archives on that legal
fight are he

http://www.eff.org/Infrastructure/DN...rbach_v_ICANN/

Karl's opinions (and blog) may be found on his web site:

http://www.cavebear.com/

While I don't agree with Karl on several issues, I agree with his general
assessment that ICANN is not looking after your (or my) interests. Karl
has written on ICANN's abuse and misuse of their status many times -
browse his blog. So long as the U.S. government, and the root name
servers it controls, continues the accepted convention in following ICANN
there is no good end in sight to its misuse of its position.

Now compare ICANN with the ITU. The ITU (International Telecommunications
Union, formerly CCITT) has been around over 100 years and has members
from just about every country on the globe. (ITU lineage predates the UN
by many decades.) The ITU define standards (a.k.a. "recommendations")
that have made it possible for you to pick up your phone and be able to
call anyone else anywhere in the world who has a dialable phone number.
Without them, the global telephone system and the global Internet almost
certainly wouldn't exist as we know it.

If no harm or censor of content has come to the global telephone system
under the gentle auspices of the ITU, then I think fretting over ITU
control of the Internet root domain name servers is probably misplaced.

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

[nightbat}
Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.
The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?
carry on,
the nightbat

[hanson]
ahahaha... ahahaha.. oh, don't worry a bit, Captain nightbat, because
no matter what... "they", "you" and "me" **will** carry on.... just as they,
you and me, have always done and always will do, whether they, you
or me, do like it or not.... for THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... neither
whether to carry on or not, nor to any exception of not being a member
in that fabulous herd of swine.... Sublime!... don't whine!... but shine!
ahahaha... ahahanson

hanson wrote:
"nightbat" wrote in message
...
"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

[nightbat}
Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.
The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?
carry on,
the nightbat

[hanson]
CaCaCaCa... CaCaCaCa.. oh, don't worry a bit, Captain nightbat, because
no matter what... "they", "you" and "me" **will** carry on.... just as they,
you and me, have always done and always will do, whether they, you
or me, do like it or not.... for THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... neither
whether to carry on or not, nor to any exception of not being a member
in that fabulous herd of swine.... Sublime!... don't whine!... but shine!
CaCaCaCa... ahahanson

Hanson, your failures are a result of your own incompetence, stupidity
and unrelenting drug-induced psychosis. Your obvious profound
misunderstanding of this root name server issue and it's
non-implications reflects, via the transitive property of your own
incompetence, and equal misunderstanding and ignorance of your
CaCaCaCaCa environmental views. Face it hanson, you're a hack - and you
always will be.

AHAHAHA... ahahaha... So, I made you crank yourself again,
Schwoonie... ahahaha... I certainly did. It shows... You also
reveal that you are a little green idiot, a class 3 enviro... fanatical,
poor and not too bright. So, you really must try harder... ahaha...
much harder.... and a wee bit above the level of your CaCaCa..

"Schoenfeld" wrote in message
oups.com...
"nightbat" wrote in message
...
"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United
Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for
the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders
are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who
have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

[nightbat}
Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.
The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?
carry on,
the nightbat


[CaCaCaCa... CaCaCaCa.. stutters Lodo Schoenfeld in awe]

[hanson]
...... oh, don't worry a bit, Captain nightbat, because
no matter what... "they", "you" and "me" **will** carry on.... just as they,
you and me, have always done and always will do, whether they, you
or me, do like it or not.... for THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... neither
whether to carry on or not, nor to any exception of not being a member
in that fabulous herd of swine.... Sublime!... don't whine!... but shine!
ahahaha...ahahanson

[Schwoonie still in awe then angrily stuttering]
CaCaCaCa...
Hanson, your failures are a result of your own incompetence, stupidity
and unrelenting drug-induced psychosis. Your obvious profound
misunderstanding of this root name server issue and it's
non-implications reflects, via the transitive property of your own
incompetence, and equal misunderstanding and ignorance of your
CaCaCaCaCa environmental views. Face it hanson, you're a hack -
and you always will be.

[hanson]
So, I got to you, again, Schwoonie, without even addressing you directly.
Such is my "hacking" power.... to which you resonate OBEDIENTLY
and as always in/with awe... AHAHAHA... ahahaha...
Thanks for the laughs, Schwoonie... ahaha... ahahanson

nightbat wrote

hanson wrote:

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

[nightbat}
Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.
The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?
carry on,
the nightbat

[hanson]
ahahaha... ahahaha.. oh, don't worry a bit, Captain nightbat, because
no matter what... "they", "you" and "me" **will** carry on.... just as they,
you and me, have always done and always will do, whether they, you
or me, do like it or not.... for THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... neither
whether to carry on or not, nor to any exception of not being a member
in that fabulous herd of swine.... Sublime!... don't whine!... but shine!
ahahaha... ahahanson

nightbat

Very well Officer hanson, shine on it is! Thank you for
brightening the long night and bringing your welcomed Officer laughter
to these otherwise solemn groups. So much complexity, so much
misunderstanding, yet you make it oh so simple and bright, thank you. I
chuckle too occasionally and try to pertinent understand it all, arms
distance I stay and sometimes fall and laugh at my own sometimes missing
the original subject matter. But like a soap opera you're right in these
science newsgroups all goes on and you can return over and over and what
has changed? He said what, he posted when, that was who, they meant
what? Did I miss an important post, wow that link was great, Uncle Al
nailed it or did he over do it? And now the invading raging auk coffee
boys, ha, ha, ha, the Young and the Restless meets the cold Guiding
light.

Thanks again oh non fudge reliable one!

ponder on,
the nightbat

nightbat wrote

Schoenfeld wrote:

hanson wrote:
"nightbat" wrote in message
...
"Greysky" wrote in message
. ..
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!
http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html
To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented
by the UN. Without a fight, even. Sigh...

[hanson]
.... sign of the times, dude... == that's the unpleasant and surprising
flip-side of freedom, democracy & diversity... Live with these fallouts!
.... == that's because the Fed. Bureaucracies are infested & controlled
by political fanatics and ideologs who are primarily beholdent to their
personal beliefs, like the neo-cons (read Zionists : Israel first, then
perhaps the US), by green ****s (read enviros : Earth first, then perhaps
human beings), by gays (read homos: secularism first then perhaps
tradition, etc... etc... ahahaha... AHAHAHA...
Get with the program dude: become a Gay Jewish Tree-hugger & you'll
live in ecstasy.... were it not for the ass-venting Islamo-fascists who have
an agenda different still!.... ahahaha... AHAHAHA... Face it: Mankind is
a vast herd of swine... and we are all members thereof... oink, oink!
AHAHAHA... ahahaha.... ahahanson

[nightbat}
Oh please loyal long time net science newsgroups poster Officer
hanson please don't place all of us net Science Officers in that pork
barrel of human herds seeking answers to profound enigmas, for we
hopefully provide and resolve them. Remain joyful Science Officer to
exemption from the rule and give the people masses hope if nothing else
to escape the sometimes overwhelming reality of their present planetary
situation. You who always makes us laugh with you not at anyone and who
always brings no fudge correlation's and timely scientific observations.
The nightbat has known your science newsgroup iterations for quite some
time and can attest to the assurety of your Science Officer quality. We
need a laughing profound science good net researcher poster to help
brighten the rest and take a load off the normally seriousness of
subject matter. Lose control of our internet to UN bureaucratic control
oh no what else can go wrong?
carry on,
the nightbat

[hanson]
CaCaCaCa... CaCaCaCa.. oh, don't worry a bit, Captain nightbat, because
no matter what... "they", "you" and "me" **will** carry on.... just as they,
you and me, have always done and always will do, whether they, you
or me, do like it or not.... for THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE... neither
whether to carry on or not, nor to any exception of not being a member
in that fabulous herd of swine.... Sublime!... don't whine!... but shine!
CaCaCaCa... ahahanson

Schoenfeld
Hanson, your failures are a result of your own incompetence, stupidity
and unrelenting drug-induced psychosis. Your obvious profound
misunderstanding of this root name server issue and it's
non-implications reflects, via the transitive property of your own
incompetence, and equal misunderstanding and ignorance of your
CaCaCaCaCa environmental views. Face it hanson, you're a hack - and you
always will be.

nightbat

Come, come, Science Officer Schoenfeld since when does anyone
that for years dedicates their posting life to science and net mutual
fellow inquiry and response be considered the b words or even cine
influenced. Your long time posting science newsgroup history is without
doubt noteworthy too. Is not a little hanson lighthearted brevity
permitted without taking offense? Come on misunderstandings arise
nothing to get worked over about short of well they don't see it my way
at this time that's all. Look it took Chandra years to get them all to
see it his way and still no doubt they doubt, nothing new. That's part
of the tuff of a deep science thinker like you, for now they're with me,
now they miss the point, or they must be clueless. No they are sometimes
looking for direction or mutual approval of their own science interests,
and other times impatient or insulted at lame apparent non interested
subject content. Incompetence, it's all frame referencing, Dr E would
watch the apparent incompetent try to original Patent file their works
and walk away with potential million dollar devices. Some made it some
didn't, a little patient help always makes a big difference. Once as a
young college student I proudly volunteered to help a difficult class
disrupting blind student in thinking I was so gifted and superior cause
I could see. He good humor wound up mutually teaching me more then I
could ever memorized lesson help teach him.

respectfully,
the nightbat

Greysky wrote:
When I read this article, my first and only thought was the United Nations
can stick it collective head up my ass and take a deep breath!

http://technology.guardian.co.uk/wee...585288,00.html

To be forced to give control of the internet to such freedom loving and
progressive countries like China, Iraq, and those 3rd world banana
dictatorships represented by the UN governing body is a good excuse for the
United States to re make a new version of the internet and keep it for
exclusive continental use. I still can't believe how easily our leaders are
going to roll over and give away a national treasure to a bunch of
terrorists, communists, and reprobate nations as are represented by the UN.
Without a fight, even. Sigh...

Because the national leaders are too important to worry about
blase things liket national interests. They are the touched by god,
they are the born again, their only job is represent
Enron before the Supreme Court of Louisiana-Lybian
neo-con Cuisine.