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![]() "Chris L Peterson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:18:48 GMT, "Mike Thomas" wrote: Why don't they get their act together and send a craft there. Ceres has been around since the 60's at least in the the anals of solar system astronomy. They screw around with comets and such but they don't send anything to the largest asteroid known!! I remember seeing a representation of the size of ceres as a kid in the 60's and immediately was amazed by it. While I'm all for sending missions to every interesting body in the Solar System, I would hardly characterize missions to comets as "screwing around". Arguably we have much more to learn from comets than we do from asteroids. We already have asteroidal material, and we are pretty sure that their formation mechanisms are not unlike the terrestrial planets. Comets, on the other hand, have the potential of providing information about the formation of the Solar System that can't be obtained from any other source. For a supposed "astromonomer" you sure have a horse blinder attitude |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:36:08 GMT, "Mike Thomas" wrote:
For a supposed "astromonomer" you sure have a horse blinder attitude For a supposed... well, something... you sure have an inarticulate way of expressing yourself. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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![]() "Chris L Peterson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:36:08 GMT, "Mike Thomas" wrote: For a supposed "astromonomer" you sure have a horse blinder attitude For a supposed... well, something... you sure have an inarticulate way of expressing yourself. _________________________________________________ lol |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
Why don't they get their act together and send a craft there. Ceres has been around since the 60's at least in the the anals of solar system astronomy. They screw around with comets and such but they don't send anything to the largest asteroid known!! I remember seeing a representation of the size of ceres as a kid in the 60's and immediately was amazed by it. You mean something like the Dawn mission seen here at http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/? The launch is June, 2006; long stop-over at Vesta starting in Oct, 2011 and finally getting to Ceres in 2015. So in 10 years, assuming everything works and there are no schedule slips, we will get close-up images of Ceres. But in only 6 years, we will get close-ups of Vesta which will likely prove of greater scientific interest than Ceres. Before you ask why 10 years to get there, remember that neither Vesta nor Ceres have atmospheres you can use for braking as is now done for Mars orbiter missions. The probe must carry all the fuel needed to match the asteroid's orbital velocity. So you plan for a slow transfer orbit, in this case, using solar electric propulsion (ion engine powered by solar panels). Alan F |
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In article Ik7Ve.225436$9A2.2696@edtnps89,
Mike Thomas wrote: "Matthew Ota" wrote in message roups.com... http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/image...ature_404.html I always had a hunch that this World Ceres would be shaped like a baseball.... Why don't they get their act together and send a craft there. Dawn is being launched next year; Ceres and Vesta orbiter (arrives Vesta 2011, Ceres 2015; a little lethargic since it's using an ion drive). I'm a little surprised that Hubble imagery of Ceres has taken this long to turn up; someone tried imaging it with HST in ultra-violet several years back, but when I picked up the images from the Hubble archive they turned out to be of unusable quality -- over-exposed, if I remember right. Vesta's been imaged with adaptive optics as early as 1993, Ceres in 2004, but the HST results are a lot better since they can work at lower wavelengths and get better resolution. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1388.pdf has the pictures, but they're very bad compared with the Hubble ones; the claim is that it's a low-contrast object in the infra-red L band, possibly because they didn't come close to resolving the bright spot that showed up in the more recent imagery. Rosetta is apparently heading to its comet by way of asteroid 21 Lutetia, which is an M-type; it will be very interesting, in July 2010, to see whether it's in fact a hundred-kilometre chunk of iron. |
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Mike Thomas wrote:
Why don't they get their act together and send a craft there. Ceres has been around since the 60's at least in the the anals of solar system astronomy. They screw around with comets and such but they don't send anything to the largest asteroid known!! I remember seeing a representation of the size of ceres as a kid in the 60's and immediately was amazed by it. "They" haven't been exactly slack on asteroids... NEAR landed on Eros awhile back. The Japanese have a lander - sample return mission at the asteroid Itokawa right now, dong research and prepping to land: http://www.jaxa.jp/missions/projects/sat/exploration/muses_c/index_e.html |
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