40 years ago today, first corned beef sandwich in orbit

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"Neil Gerace" wrote:

"Rusty" wrote in message
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Thanks for the confirmation that the Molly Brown corned beef sandwich
was preserved.

What happened to that can of Tang?

Iirc, by Apollo 12 it had progressed to where the techs were actually
packing "ceremonial" sandwiches into the knee pockets at suit-up (?).
There's a really good foto of Conrad having a sandwich packed at the JSC
archive, I think.

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In article , 7lv43nn0c5
@stinkers.org says...

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Iirc, by Apollo 12 it had progressed to where the techs were actually
packing "ceremonial" sandwiches into the knee pockets at suit-up (?).
There's a really good foto of Conrad having a sandwich packed at the JSC
archive, I think.

They weren't exactly ceremonial, there was operational logic behind it.
Apollo crews always adjusted their sleep schedules so that, on launch
day, they would get up, have breakfast, suit up and go launch. By the
time they got into orbit, it was well past time for lunch -- but you
didn't want to try and get out of the suits until after TLI. It was
awkward to move around the CM in suits, and preparing a full meal under
those conditions would have taken a lot more time than they wanted to
spend on it.

So, they started packing a snack into the suit pockets, so the crews
could have a light lunch "on the go" as they finished up their pre-TLI
checkouts. IIRC, on Apollo 16 the on-orbit snack was hamburgers -- one
feature story at the time made a big deal about how they would be room-
temperature hamburgers, but that the crew didn't seem to care...

It was good human factors engineering, actually. Just like the drink
bags and food sticks in the Apollo EVA suits. You want your crew at
their best, mentally and physically, and so you try to keep them well-
fed, well-watered and well-rested. You see a lot of emphasis on that in
the later Apollo flights.

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Doug... wrote:
In article , 7lv43nn0c5
@stinkers.org says...

snip

Iirc, by Apollo 12 it had progressed to where the techs were
actually
packing "ceremonial" sandwiches into the knee pockets at suit-up
(?).
There's a really good foto of Conrad having a sandwich packed at
the JSC
archive, I think.

They weren't exactly ceremonial, there was operational logic behind
it.
Apollo crews always adjusted their sleep schedules so that, on launch

day, they would get up, have breakfast, suit up and go launch. By
the
time they got into orbit, it was well past time for lunch -- but you
didn't want to try and get out of the suits until after TLI. It was
awkward to move around the CM in suits, and preparing a full meal
under
those conditions would have taken a lot more time than they wanted to

spend on it.

So, they started packing a snack into the suit pockets, so the crews
could have a light lunch "on the go" as they finished up their
pre-TLI
checkouts. IIRC, on Apollo 16 the on-orbit snack was hamburgers --
one
feature story at the time made a big deal about how they would be
room-
temperature hamburgers, but that the crew didn't seem to care...

It was good human factors engineering, actually. Just like the drink

bags and food sticks in the Apollo EVA suits. You want your crew at
their best, mentally and physically, and so you try to keep them
well-
fed, well-watered and well-rested. You see a lot of emphasis on that
in
the later Apollo flights.

--

"The problem isn't that there are so | Doug Van Dorn
many fools; it's that lightning isn't |
distributed right." -Mark Twain

things haaven't changed. someone needs to feed that porker mosley,
so that he's at his best.

On 24 Mar 2005 18:49:19 -0800, wrote:




Thanks for the confirmation that the Molly Brown corned beef sandwich
was
preserved.

Rusty

sorta, it's an exact replica (the orignal was consumed) from
wolfies (ramada inn) sandwich bar (next door to the holiday inn) now
holiday inn property. did you ever hear about the first heard (herd)
shot around the world? it was also on the same flight.....


So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

;-)


Rusty

"Rusty" wrote in message
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So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

I would therefore expect a 'facilities check sandwich' (GT-F) and a 'main
filling test article sandwich' (MFTA) to turn up in someone's archives
eventually.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:28:42 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
wrote:

"Rusty" wrote in message
.. .

So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

I would therefore expect a 'facilities check sandwich' (GT-F) and a 'main
filling test article sandwich' (MFTA) to turn up in someone's archives
eventually.

....That, and info on using off-the-shelf Arby's Roast Beef Sandwiches
as low-cost alternatives.

(We really need to get a gag site going on this one, kids...)

OM

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In article 42461a0a$0$7744$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
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"Rusty" wrote in message
...

So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

I would therefore expect a 'facilities check sandwich' (GT-F) and a 'main
filling test article sandwich' (MFTA) to turn up in someone's archives
eventually.

And owing to spoilage issues, wouldn't you have to have had a special
sandwich specifically for the Fit & Function Test? That's another...

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many fools; it's that lightning isn't |
distributed right." -Mark Twain

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:26:37 -0600, Doug...
wrote:

In article 42461a0a$0$7744$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au, says...
"Rusty" wrote in message
...

So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

I would therefore expect a 'facilities check sandwich' (GT-F) and a 'main
filling test article sandwich' (MFTA) to turn up in someone's archives
eventually.

And owing to spoilage issues, wouldn't you have to have had a special
sandwich specifically for the Fit & Function Test? That's another...


Don't forget the Breadboard Test Article.


Rusty

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:04:30 -0600, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:28:42 +0800, "Neil Gerace"
wrote:

"Rusty" wrote in message
. ..

So, a "backup sandwich" is preserved in plexiglas.

I would therefore expect a 'facilities check sandwich' (GT-F) and a 'main
filling test article sandwich' (MFTA) to turn up in someone's archives
eventually.

...That, and info on using off-the-shelf Arby's Roast Beef Sandwiches
as low-cost alternatives.

(We really need to get a gag site going on this one, kids...)


"A field guide to American sandwiches"

Rusty wrote:

Don't forget the Breadboard Test Article.




And the British-made reusable one with MUSTARD.

Pat