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"newedana" wrote: Your quantum physicists do not know in reality how can the orbital electron of atoms generate electromagnetic waves with wavelengths ranging from gammer rays to microwaves. You better read Dr.Yoon's text. You're an idiot. A blooming idiot. You will find how beautifully he could explain the mechanism of generating such electromaghetic waves with a variety of wavelengths by atoms. The mechanism is exactly the same as that of generating radio waves with a RC resonant circuit. Perhaps you will find that how scientific is his explanation. You admit that gammer rays, x-rays, Uv, visible lights infrared, micro waves and radio waves are all included in the same family of electromagnetic energy waves. So they should have the same mechanism of generating them by orbital electrons, right? Then have you ever heard such a science decribing the mechanism of generating a variety of electromagnetic wave by atoms? But, perhaps you may have no doubt, microwaves constructing proton NMR( nuclear magnetic resonance) spectrum are generated by protons magnetically resonated by field magnetism, because QM theory says so. But according to Dr. Yoon's science it is a big mistate! I am sure you would say, how on earth did Yoon manage to obtain a PhD. He apparenty knows less than many layman crackpots. However Dr. Yoon says in his book, quantum mechanical interpretation of emitting NMR is one of the biggest lie in the history of human science. The signal of NMR spectrum has nothing to do with proton's magnetic resonance. It also comes from the orbital electron ring of hydrogen atom. QM physicists are quite ignorant as to the dimension of proton, compared with a hydrogen atom. It has merely 1/10^15 of hydrogen atom. Do you know how large is the dimension of microwave's wavelength? It is 0,1mm to 10 dm. really huge compared to the dimension of proton. In the standard text, hydrogen atom can generate electromagnetic waves with wavlength of maximum 1,23 micron. So such a tiny sized proton can never generate microwaves with such a huge wavelengths. It appears that the quantum mechanists could say this kind of big lie during the last 20th century, because they are completely ignorant for the mechanism of generating electromagnetic waves by atoms, and even for radio waves generated by RC resonant circuits. I find in his book it is explaind very scientifically the mechanism of emitting and absorbing microwaves by electron rings of hydrogen atoms involved in test chemicals, with the aid of field magnetism, which construct so called NMR spectrum. newedana says to Bjoen Feuerbacher Dr. Yoon is a quack. |
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newedana wrote:
Could you *please* try to get your attributions correct? How does Dr. Yoon explain the photo effect and the Compton effect? That is why I recommended you to read Dr.Yoon's book. I already told you under what conditions I'll look at it. Dr. Yoon treated with these two monumental works in his book, but he explained them with his own principles set up without any postulations, and entirely different from current one, Does he present mere qualitative, vague handwavings, or actual *quantitative* descriptions? saying that readers would be able to find, how A. Einstein and Compton's explanations for these physical events are so childish and primitive. Wow. Insulting two of the greatest known scientists (and essentially hundreds of thousands of physicists along with them, because they agree with these explanations) is really a good start when one wants to propose an alternative explanation. Tell me, what is "childish" and "primitive" about wave-particle dualism? Only mathematicians who do not know what is natural science can do such interpretations, So mathematics is childish and primitive? And why does Dr. Yoon think he can judge better than Einstein what natural science is, and what it isn't? in order to cheat people in the name of mathematical justification. So Einstein invented all that stuff merely in order to cheat people? He was a fraud? Wow. Dr. Yoon really is full of himself. It signifies that mathematical measurement What is a "mathematical measurement"? is not so valuable than true understanding things qualitatively. Why does Dr. Yoon think that qualitative handwavings are more valuable than quantitative scientific descriptions? For starters, with qualitative handwavings, one can't construct technology. newedana says to Bjoern Feuerbacher Yet again displaying his ignorance of science. Yet again refusing to answer most of my questions. Yet again ignoring most of my arguments. Bye, Bjoern |
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Claims based on stupidity of its author cannot be disputed. Nothing
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muha wrote:
Claims based on stupidity of its author cannot be disputed. Nothing will convince an idiot. Well, Dr. Yoon *has* obtained somehow a doctorate, so I've still got some hope that he is *not* a total idiot. Unfortunately, he is not here himself for debate. And the intelligence and knowledge level of his disciple "newedana" seems to be quite low... Bye, Bjoern |
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Newedena,
Dr. Yoon doesn't believe in quantum mechanics nor relativity. Does he believe in the Aether?? http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...tronfluxes.jpg Notice that he begins his book by mentioning about electron force fluxes (or electric field lines) as being like a thing just like a high speed boat moving across water producing water waves. In his model. The tails produced intensive magnetic field allegedly explaining all the data of experiments. He didn't explain why the force fluxes are the way he believed them to be. Could he be following the Aether concept?? In which case, the electric field lines (or force fluxes) are disturbances in the aether caused by the particle. He mentions about the waves of moving electrons producing interferences. I haven't gotten the book as it's just too costly at $180 (maybe you can convince him to lower it to $25. I wonder how many here actually bought the book.. Ch. |
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Where does the earth's heat come from?
habshi - Apr 24, 2:27 pm How much comes from the sun and how much from the internal radioactive sources ? If the latter is the major part could it be the reason Venus is so hot ? read more =BB 5 new of 10 messages - 8 authors I like to suggest to all of you to refer the newadenas reply for above question, "Where does the earth's heat come from? Dr.Yoon denys ont only A. Einstein but also Bethe's thought. The energy source of the sun is not the nuclear fusion of deuterium or hydrogen atoms distributed in the cosmic space, as people today believes, but is the fusion of bare deuterons coexisting in the neutron mass building the core phase of the sun. Deuteron is made possible by coupling a neutron and a proton produced by beta-decay of neutron. The electro ring of hydrogen atom shrinks to be the nearest to its nucleus due to absorption of energy, and it makes its proton be a neutron. It is called nuclear electron ring which can bind two protons to be a proton and a neutron; while electron locates over a proton it makes a neutron. Thus the oscillatory frequency changing between proton and neutron is enormous. This binding force is nothing else than the nuclear strong force. As you may know in the case of hydrogen bomb, deuterium atoms are combined to lithium as a solid metal halide. So the nuclear fusion between deuterons is made possible in such an ultra critical environment given by explosion of atomic bomb. So that Dr.Yoon overlooks that the controllable hot nuclear fusion experiment led by main stream physicists is not so promising, because the energy required in preparing such an ultra environment of unclear fusion is enormous, surpassing the out put energy by nuclear fusion. And the container material to keep the fusion environment is a real problem. However, cold nuclear fusion is promising if scientists today abandon the statistical concept over the scientific phenomena. Number of experimental evidences for a possiblity of cold nuclear fusion were reported, and energy division of fedral government in the USA is reviewing the possibility of cold nuclear fusion. Another revolutionay suggestion to be taken account by particle physicists is in Dr.Yoon's book which was introduced by newedana that will be found in the same google topics, sci.physics; Why alloys have lowerer melting points than any of component pure metals? Can you calculate the reason with QM theory? Can you explain why uranium atom has lesser volume, 12.5, than that of hydrogen atom, 14.1, with QM calculation? |
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Michael Faraday thought that electric charge emanates electric force
fluxes in radial symmetric around it, and these force fluxes have shrinking elasticity. That is why the charge can attract light substances. This is clearly described in the book with a title 'a History of the Science' by Stephen F. Mason, published by Macmillan Publishing Co. You can confirm this. He was really the greatest physicist in the history. But contemporsry main stream physicists disregarded him because Faraday was a chemist at the start of his research life. Perhaps you have learned high school physics. You open your old text and look again the map of electric force fluxes made between two counter charges. Dr.Yoon and Michael Faraday thought that these electric force fluxes are emanated from the charge and they can move with the moving charge. But your particle physicists thought them as force lines, and electric attraction between light thigs and counter charges can occur without any mechanism. Thus your mathematical physicists established the electric field theory, E=e1 +e2 + e3....+en. But this field theory is faudulent, since these electric force fluxes moves with the charge and can shift behind the charge, due to a time lag between their motion and charge. That is why moving electrons forming a persistent current in a superconductor never makes their electric field in the direction perpendicular to its moving path. These elastic force fluxes make electrons perform a longitudinal oscillation, which can generate an electromagnetic wave. Charged particles or electrons can never travel by inertial motion in vacant space, because the eletric force fluxes emanated from them makes them to emit radiation energy. It is energy dumping behavior of moving charge when accelerated. Thus A. Einstein's theory, difficulty of accelerating charged particle at near the speed of light, is not due to increase of its absolute mass, but is due to energy dumping behavior of charged particles when accelerated. |
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newedana wrote:
[snip] I like to suggest to all of you to refer the newadenas reply for above question, "Where does the earth's heat come from? Dr.Yoon denys ont only A. Einstein but also Bethe's thought. The energy source of the sun is not the nuclear fusion of deuterium or hydrogen atoms distributed in the cosmic space, as people today believes, How strongly does Dr. Yoon want to demonstrate that he is an ignorant idiot who doesn't care for evidence? Every single observation made of the sun so far is consistent with the idea of nuclear fusion going on in it, including the neutrino observations of SNO. How does Dr. Yoon explain this ugly fact? but is the fusion of bare deuterons coexisting in the neutron mass building the core phase of the sun. He is free to explain the observations (quantitatively!) based on that idea. [snip more nonsense] Bye, Bjoern |
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![]() Bjoern Feuerbacher wrote: newedana wrote: But this field theory is faudulent, since these electric force fluxes moves with the charge And why does this make the "field theory" "fraudulent"? and can shift behind the charge, Unsupported assertion, actually contradicted by the evidence. E.g. synchrotron radiation shows precisely the *opposite*: the fields are strongest *in front of* the charge, not behind it! But you and Dr. Yoon don't care for inconvenient things like observations which contradict you, right? Newedana, if what Bjoern described that synchrotron radiation shows precisely the opposite of what Dr. Yoon claimed. Then the foundation of his model is shattered and the rest of the book fall apart. Dr. Yoon primary claim is that a moving electron is like a comet with the tails composing of the the electric field lines or force fluxes (Yoon term) lagging behind the moving charged particle. If synchrotron radiation stuff proves the opposite. Then bid Yoonsatom model goodbye. Yoonsatom model is another attempt to explain QM and Relativity the newtonian way. But reality is far from newtonian and QM/Relativity may just be the tip of the iceburg. To illustrate. I can concentrate myself to be in your and Dr. Yoon room at night and if I will hard enough. You can see me image of me as apparition. There is nothing newtonian about this. And only a model that makes QM and relativity as subset can explain it. Dr. Yoon and Newedana. Try to challenge synchrotron radiation thing and this is your only salvation to make yoonatom stand any chance. Should you fail. Then admit defeat and start learning real stuff. Reality is not queerer than you think, but more queerer than you can possibly imagine.. as the familiar saying goes. Ch. |
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What's wrong with quantum mechanics and relativity that these well
tested, well established models be replaced with anything, let alone Yoon's fanciful theory? Dave |
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