See Steve Squyres Squirm!

Jim Davis wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:


...and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.


No doubt they're soiling their trousers even as you speak, Thomas.

Is it just me, or has Elifritz gotten even more looney recently?

Paul

In article , says...
Jim Davis wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:


...and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.


No doubt they're soiling their trousers even as you speak, Thomas.

Is it just me, or has Elifritz gotten even more looney recently?

Paul

Careful. He might plonk you.


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January 24, 2005

Jim Davis wrote:

...and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.

No doubt they're soiling their trousers even as you speak, Thomas.

They're geologists Jim, what do you expect? Do you remember 'continental
drift'? It wasn't all that long ago. How quickly they forget. How many
professional geologists will admit they believe in anthropogenic global
warming? As a discipline, they're pathetic.

Thomas Lee Elifritz
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net

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Eric Chomko wrote:

You should have been the PI for your own probe.

I am, they're called MER A&B. Unfortunately, our publicly funded
institutions see fit to withhold spectroscopy data from their
constituents.

"Our" publicly funded institutions? In case you've forgotten, you're a
Bahamanian tax exile, by choice. *You* didn't pay a goddamn cent for MER.

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"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message
...
Jim Davis wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:


...and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.


No doubt they're soiling their trousers even as you speak, Thomas.

Is it just me, or has Elifritz gotten even more looney recently?

Paul


The only way he could get more loony is to wind up with a shot gun at a post
office on the five o'clock news.

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:12:51 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Paul F.
Dietz" made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

...and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.


No doubt they're soiling their trousers even as you speak, Thomas.

Is it just me, or has Elifritz gotten even more looney recently?

One would hardly have thought that possible. Perhaps he's being
reinforced by all of the other recent moonbat arrivals, like the
mental cases who fantasize that Hubble is being shut down by
creationists.

Now, what about those fossils? :

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...24/2P159392246...

Adjust the contrast to bring out the symmetry.

And the rock monster tentacle :

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...24/2N159831793...

Notice the sheared off cross section structure
sticking right out of the ground.

This is all a joke, right? You couldn't possibly be yet one more of
those pseudoscientists who think that because they have given something
a name, it must be that thing they named it. That is, you say that
something looks like a "rock monster tentacle" (and that is so funny!)
therefore it must be a "rock monster tentacle".

I think there is more weirdness going on at your keyboard than there is
on Mars.

RM

Every pseudoscientist at some time will indulge in the "they laughed at
[fill in the name of the famous scientist] and now look at what they
are saying!" . . . They all wind up equating themselves with real
scientists without ever realizing that the theories of those scientists
were eventually accepted because they had done their homework and had
presented their theories with rigorous application of the scientific
method . . .

RM

Now, what about those fossils? :

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...24/2P159392246...

Adjust the contrast to bring out the symmetry.

And the rock monster tentacle :

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...24/2N159831793...

Notice the sheared off cross section structure
sticking right out of the ground.

This is all a joke, right? You couldn't possibly be yet one more of
those pseudoscientists who think that because they have given something
a name, it must be that thing they named it. That is, you say that
something looks like a "rock monster tentacle" (and that is so funny!)
therefore it must be a "rock monster tentacle".

I think there is more weirdness going on at your keyboard than there is
on Mars.

RM

wrote:
: January 24, 2005

: Eric Chomko wrote:
:
: : Spirit Daily Update
:
: : So, when confronted with bizarre Mars rock formations that defy
: : description and beg investigation, what does Squeers and his band
: of
: : geeks do? They drive right by, turn the camera the other way, and
: take
: : vast panoramas of endless barren landscapes nearly devoid of
: features.
:
: : It's NASAs new faith based space initiative, when confronted with
: the
: : unknown, or difficult terrain, drive right by and look the other
: way.
:
: I think you are being overly harsh on Dr. Squyres.

: I haven't even started on him. I will be a thorn in his side
: for a long time to come.

: During his talk about
: Mars earlier this month he was quite informative.

: Talking about date six months out of date, no doubt.

No, no, he spoke about both Spirit and Oppurtunity from touchdown right
up until that current week's observations, with great slides and good
science. You should have been there.

: The fact that you see
: something in the Martian soil equivalent to tea leaves and dinosaur
: droppings, doesn't make the scientific community actually exploring
: Mars
: remiss.

: If you show some geologists some rocks that they fully expect to
: be basalts, then guess what they are going to see?

Right, but in some cases they could noy explain what they saw and are
still working on it.

: You should have been the PI for your own probe.

: I am, they're called MER A&B. Unfortunately, our publicly funded
: institutions see fit to withhold spectroscopy data from their
: constituents.

Have you checked with a large university's library databases specializing
in space science, rather than simply google on the web?

: Have you had a chance to investigate the RAT tool's findings when
: used to
: scrape rocks?

: They're right here for everyone to see :

: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/micro_imager/

: Not so the spectroscopy. You can look here, but you won't
: find it anywhere, except data many months out of date.

: http://anserver1.eprsl.wustl.edu/ant...eran_title.htm
: http://anserver1.eprsl.wustl.edu/ant...eran_title.htm

: Now, what about those fossils? :

: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...PP2541L7M1.JPG

: Adjust the contrast to bring out the symmetry.

: And the rock monster tentacle :

: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spi...PP1765R0M1.JPG

: Notice the sheared off cross section structure
: sticking right out of the ground.

: Until I see some spectroscopy that definitively tells me otherwise,
: as far as I can tell, there sure as hell was something weird
: going on up on Mars, and until then, Squeers and his gang of geeks
: can sweat bullets, because I've got their number, and I'm going to
: be punching their buttons, until this is fully resolved.

I'm sure that they want to know as badly as you do.

: The signs of water and sedimentation are everywhere here.
: Something is extracting and reprocessing nutrients from
: the rock, and building structures which then subsequently
: dissolve, erode and dehydroxylate on the spot, leaving clear
: patterns in the rocks and on the surface of the soil,
: at both microscopic and macroscopic levels of organization.

Right, but that can be explained without the need for something organic
such as life.

: If you can't see that, you simply aren't looking.

Have you tried to contact someone from the JPL team about the
spectroscopy?

Eric

: Thomas Lee Elifritz
: http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net