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![]() wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't recommend hydroflouric acid. I read somewhere that it pases through the skin and finds it way to the bones. Do we have any chemists or doctors aboard who can confirm this please? Getting hold of the stuff probably wouldn't be easy for the layman ayway. Chris.B Hydrofluoric Acid does penetrate deeply in dilute form so the effects are delayed. See http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic804.htm for more details. This stuff is extremely hazardous and must only be used if there is no other alternative. The COSHH regulations 2002 apply to this substance. Alan |
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In message , Steve Taylor
writes wrote: I wouldn't recommend hydroflouric acid. I read somewhere that it pases through the skin and finds it way to the bones. Do we have any chemists or doctors aboard who can confirm this please? Getting hold of the stuff probably wouldn't be easy for the layman ayway. Its very very nasty stuff. Look up "HF poisoning" in Google. We use a special paint remover at work which contains HF. We also have the specialist emergency kit that has to accompany it. If ANY HF is dropped on the skin, it has to be flushed and a gel containing Calcium fluconate rubbed in, and rubbed in, and rubbed in. The fluconate sequesters the fluorine and the resulting compound is (relatively) inert Very minor nitpick, but that's gluconate. ISTR that hydrofluoric acid can penetrate pinholes in gloves, but I've never had occasion to use it (thankfully). -- What have they got to hide? Release the ESA Beagle 2 report. Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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Alan Gardiner wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't recommend hydroflouric acid. I read somewhere that it pases through the skin and finds it way to the bones. Do we have any chemists or doctors aboard who can confirm this please? Getting hold of the stuff probably wouldn't be easy for the layman ayway. Chris.B Hydrofluoric Acid does penetrate deeply in dilute form so the effects are delayed. See http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic804.htm for more details. This stuff is extremely hazardous and must only be used if there is no other alternative. The COSHH regulations 2002 apply to this substance. There is no warning at all with HF. You only feel the excruciating pain and damage much later. Even experienced chemists are *extremely* careful with it and no-one will touch it these days without having the (partial) antidote of calcium gluconate cream to hand. The gruesome safety film for HF handling itself usually causes casualties when it is shown to audiences of tough steel welders and geologists. Read the MSDS very carefully this stuff is vicious! Scarily I found 10L of 30% HF in my Belgian greenhouse in a plastic container brittle with age. When I picked it up I thought it was pink paraffin. I put it down very very gingerly. It is (or rather was) sold there as glass cleaner for commercial scale grape glasshouses. I doubt very much that ordinary members of the public can buy it. You might be able to take a piece of glass along to a specialist glass worker who knows how to use HF etching to acheive the finish you want. But it would probably be cheaper to buy some ground glass off the shelf. Sand blasting with fine sand is the other physical alternative depending on how flat you need it to be. Regards, Martin Brown |
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I have heard a story about an electrician whom had to have his arm removed
after touching the stuff. -- Wishing you clear dark skies Jim Vincent. jims astro pages www.jimsastro.com Castle Point Astronomy Club www.cpac.org.uk wrote in message oups.com... I wouldn't recommend hydroflouric acid. I read somewhere that it pases through the skin and finds it way to the bones. Do we have any chemists or doctors aboard who can confirm this please? Getting hold of the stuff probably wouldn't be easy for the layman ayway. Chris.B |
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