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"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
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This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike the X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no choosing on
its part.

-Kim-

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"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
om...
This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike the X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no choosing on
its part.


Granted that NASA is generally "under orders" from whatever
administration happens to be in office, there is still nothing that
prevents them from protesting such orders. I get too much of the
feeling that O'Keefe gave in way too quickly on this. Lots of choices
here, Kim.
-Mike

(Mike DiCenso) wrote in
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"Kim Keller" wrote in message
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"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
om...
This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike the X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no
choosing on its part.


Granted that NASA is generally "under orders" from whatever
administration happens to be in office, there is still nothing that
prevents them from protesting such orders. I get too much of the
feeling that O'Keefe gave in way too quickly on this. Lots of choices
here, Kim.

X-38 was cancelled in 2001, while Goldin was still Administrator. O'Keefe
didn't replace Goldin until the following year.

Bill the Cat wrote:
(Mike DiCenso) wrote in
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"Kim Keller" wrote in message
...
"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
om...
This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at
least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike the
X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no
choosing on its part.


Granted that NASA is generally "under orders" from whatever
administration happens to be in office, there is still nothing that
prevents them from protesting such orders. I get too much of the
feeling that O'Keefe gave in way too quickly on this. Lots of
choices
here, Kim.

X-38 was cancelled in 2001, while Goldin was still Administrator.
O'Keefe
didn't replace Goldin until the following year.


According to most sources I've read, the offical cancellation of X-38
was made around April, 2002. Goldin was retired, and O'Keefe was very
much involved by this point.


For an example, go to:


http://spaceref.com/news/views/viewpr.html?pid=9609
-Mike

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Bill the Cat wrote:
(Mike DiCenso) wrote in
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"Kim Keller" wrote in message
...
"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
om...
This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at
least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike the
X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no
choosing on its part.


Granted that NASA is generally "under orders" from whatever
administration happens to be in office, there is still nothing that
prevents them from protesting such orders. I get too much of the
feeling that O'Keefe gave in way too quickly on this. Lots of
choices
here, Kim.

X-38 was cancelled in 2001, while Goldin was still Administrator.
O'Keefe
didn't replace Goldin until the following year.


According to most sources I've read, the offical cancellation of X-38
was made around April, 2002. Goldin was retired, and O'Keefe was very
much involved by this point.

The key word is "official".

Everyone at JSC knew X-38 was dead in 2001.

Bill the Cat wrote:
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Bill the Cat wrote:
(Mike DiCenso) wrote in
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"Kim Keller" wrote in message
...
"Mike DiCenso" wrote in message
om...
This is a mockup. The "real thing" will not be ready for at
least
another 6-8 years. Check out Rusty's images; you'll see that
the
Klipper lands horizontally, paracute assisted, not unlike
the
X-38
that NASA unfortunately chose to abandon more than 2 years
ago.

NASA was *told* to abandon it by the White House; there was no
choosing on its part.


Granted that NASA is generally "under orders" from whatever
administration happens to be in office, there is still nothing
that
prevents them from protesting such orders. I get too much of the
feeling that O'Keefe gave in way too quickly on this. Lots of
choices
here, Kim.

X-38 was cancelled in 2001, while Goldin was still Administrator.
O'Keefe
didn't replace Goldin until the following year.


According to most sources I've read, the offical cancellation of
X-38
was made around April, 2002. Goldin was retired, and O'Keefe was
very
much involved by this point.

The key word is "official".

Everyone at JSC knew X-38 was dead in 2001.

That's irrelevant. Even if everyone in the lower echelons thought that,
it still does not prevent O'Keefe from arguing the point that the
project should be saved BEFORE the decision becomes offical.
-Mike

Ruskie Klipper.


"Explorer8939" wrote in message
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It looks as if someone combined the Space Shuttle with the Gemini
capsule:


http://www.photocenter.ru/myphoto/fi...Q/LMPLy8MOOoUA
ABZLBrsAAAAE.html