SAA Housecleaning needed

If you are seeing huge numbers of persistent but obviously random dross
posts in s.a.a it is time to beat up on *your* ISP's newsmaster. It
looks OK from here.



Ok

CarboHolic wrote:

"Bob May" wrote in message
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Sounds like you don't understand the UseNet newsgroups.
There is no central location where these messages are kept so you have no
single point that you can "repair" the newsgroup. In addition, this is a
nonmoderated group so there is not anybody that can delete improper posts.
As to the 48K posts, that is all that your newsgroup server has at the
moment for the last x number of days in it's memory. There are a lot more
than that that have been posted to the group over the many years that it

has

been around.



Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.


Unsubscribing is really easy.

"Phil Wheeler" wrote in message
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CarboHolic wrote:

"Bob May" wrote in message
...

Sounds like you don't understand the UseNet newsgroups.
There is no central location where these messages are kept so you have
no
single point that you can "repair" the newsgroup. In addition, this
is a
nonmoderated group so there is not anybody that can delete improper
posts.
As to the 48K posts, that is all that your newsgroup server has at the
moment for the last x number of days in it's memory. There are a lot
more
than that that have been posted to the group over the many years that
it

has

been around.



Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.


Unsubscribing is really easy.
Or just learn to use filter rules on your own newsreader. You can block
senders who annoy you (unfortunately people will in some cases reply to
these, and you then see the replies...), block files over a particular
size (helps to prevent reception of very long 'threaded' conversations, or
binaries that souldn't be on the group anyway), have general rules to
block messages with some 'keywords' present or missing etc. etc..
With such rules carefully set up, over 90% of the 'dross', can be removed,
allowing groups to be viewed in a different 'light'... :-)

Best Wishes

CarboHolic wrote:

"Bob May" wrote in message
...

Sounds like you don't understand the UseNet newsgroups.
There is no central location where these messages are kept so you have no
single point that you can "repair" the newsgroup. In addition, this is a
nonmoderated group so there is not anybody that can delete improper posts.
As to the 48K posts, that is all that your newsgroup server has at the
moment for the last x number of days in it's memory. There are a lot more
than that that have been posted to the group over the many years that it
has been around.

Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.

Not necessary. Are you sure you are not talking about the messages
cached by your newsreader? For example, when on my newsreader the
cache gets to about 20'000 messages I remove the expired messages and
this leaves only around 10'000.

- Alex

"Alexander Avtanski" wrote in message
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CarboHolic wrote:

"Bob May" wrote in message
...

Sounds like you don't understand the UseNet newsgroups.
There is no central location where these messages are kept so you have
no
single point that you can "repair" the newsgroup. In addition, this is
a
nonmoderated group so there is not anybody that can delete improper
posts.
As to the 48K posts, that is all that your newsgroup server has at the
moment for the last x number of days in it's memory. There are a lot
more
than that that have been posted to the group over the many years that it
has been around.

Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.

Not necessary. Are you sure you are not talking about the messages
cached by your newsreader? For example, when on my newsreader the
cache gets to about 20'000 messages I remove the expired messages and
this leaves only around 10'000.



No, I use message rules with outlook. It always says 48000 not dowloaded
so it is my ISP server.

CarboHolic wrote:

[ ... ]
Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.

Not necessary. Are you sure you are not talking about the messages
cached by your newsreader? For example, when on my newsreader the
cache gets to about 20'000 messages I remove the expired messages and
this leaves only around 10'000.

No, I use message rules with outlook. It always says 48000 not dowloaded
so it is my ISP server.

Isn't there some option to mark old messages? I'm using Netscape and
I can say "Download 1000 headers, mark the rest as read" - I do this
when I subscribe to new newsgroups; doing this just once makes sure
I never see any indication that there are more old cached messages.

- Alex

I download just headers and if I don't download a message it's hidden and
once I leave that newsgroup outlook catchs up with the numbers and then I
only see 500 headers I DL each time.


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"CarboHolic" wrote in message
news:B33_c.65033$jZ5.53249@clgrps13...

"Alexander Avtanski" wrote in message
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CarboHolic wrote:

"Bob May" wrote in message
...

Sounds like you don't understand the UseNet newsgroups.
There is no central location where these messages are kept so you have
no
single point that you can "repair" the newsgroup. In addition, this
is
a
nonmoderated group so there is not anybody that can delete improper
posts.
As to the 48K posts, that is all that your newsgroup server has at the
moment for the last x number of days in it's memory. There are a lot
more
than that that have been posted to the group over the many years that
it
has been around.

Sounds like my ISP should do the housecleaning.

Not necessary. Are you sure you are not talking about the messages
cached by your newsreader? For example, when on my newsreader the
cache gets to about 20'000 messages I remove the expired messages and
this leaves only around 10'000.



No, I use message rules with outlook. It always says 48000 not dowloaded
so it is my ISP server.




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