is there a center to the Big Bang cosmology?

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...
Leave it to you to insult what is otherwise a deliberate lack of quoting
the source on my part, just to watch your stupid knee jerk reaction.

Plagiarizing refers to publishing, and Usenet is not a publishing forum.
There bucko. But if you insist on wanting to know where it came from, it
is a quote sent to me taken from who knows where, but puportedly by a
teacher at the University of Berkely.


Liar, you lifted it from the Millennium Group pages.






Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
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Ignorance of the Big Bang theory noted.

Wally Anglesea wrote:


SNIP, as everything following was a fallacy)


When you plagiarised the following, where did you steal it from?



"One of the most amusing examples involves the determination of the
presence of a background radiation that is uniform in all directions in
the heavens. Some few years ago a couple of scientists, at Bell
Laboratories as I remember, received the Nobel Prize for the discovery
that there was an absolutely uniform level of radiation to be found in
the sky, regardless of which direction you happen to look. Homeostasis.
A flat, constant coldness at around 3 degrees Kelvin. The fact that it
was both smooth and exactly the same in every direction was the killer
observation that finally provided the ultimate proof of the Big Bang
origin of the universe. Or so they said."

"And then, a few years later, some super detectors were put up in orbit
with orders of magnitude greater sensitivity. You know what they
observed? That flat background radiation wasn't really flat, but had
undulations and unevennesses in it. The fact that it was, in its fine
detail, uneven and variable was then advanced as the ultimate proof of
the Big Bang."

Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...

Hubble gave us the concept of a 'galaxy' being like the Milky Way. (even
though Messier catalogued the Andromeda galaxy before him) Hubble then
'proved' that all galaxies are moving away from us, even though a team of
astronomers worked together with him, and the fact that Andromeda is
headed for a collision with the Milky Way disproves his main theory.



Not at all. The Magellenic clouds, for instance are gravitationally bound to
our own Milky Way.
Plenty of pictures abound showing galaxies interacting.

However, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN TO YOU, the large scale expansion of the
universe is correct.

SNIP, as everything following was a fallacy)



Wally,

How could you not comment on the funniest bit in there! It was
the first I'd heard that Hoyle had worked out the math for the
Big Bang, being as he was a great proponent of it. ;-)

This is one of the big reasons not to try to killfile MS.
Every once in a while, we are gifted with a post like this. Is
anyone's life so full of joy and humor that something like MS's
latest missive can be ignored?

And then there's the business about Messier cataloging the
Andromeda Galaxy before Hubble. Except, of course, Messier had
no idea of galaxies, and recorded M31 solely as a nuisance,
since it got in the way of his comet-hunting.

Oh, and... But perhaps one ought read his post oneself. Far
more jollies to be had that way.

--
Tom McDonald

"Tom McDonald" wrote in message
...
Wally Anglesea wrote:

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
le.rogers.com...

Hubble gave us the concept of a 'galaxy' being like the Milky Way. (even
though Messier catalogued the Andromeda galaxy before him) Hubble then
'proved' that all galaxies are moving away from us, even though a team of
astronomers worked together with him, and the fact that Andromeda is
headed for a collision with the Milky Way disproves his main theory.



Not at all. The Magellenic clouds, for instance are gravitationally bound
to our own Milky Way.
Plenty of pictures abound showing galaxies interacting.

However, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN TO YOU, the large scale expansion of
the universe is correct.

SNIP, as everything following was a fallacy)



Wally,

How could you not comment on the funniest bit in there! It was the first
I'd heard that Hoyle had worked out the math for the Big Bang, being as he
was a great proponent of it. ;-)

This is one of the big reasons not to try to killfile MS. Every once in a
while, we are gifted with a post like this. Is anyone's life so full of
joy and humor that something like MS's latest missive can be ignored?

And then there's the business about Messier cataloging the Andromeda
Galaxy before Hubble. Except, of course, Messier had no idea of galaxies,
and recorded M31 solely as a nuisance, since it got in the way of his
comet-hunting.

Oh, and... But perhaps one ought read his post oneself. Far more jollies
to be had that way.

You are right of course. It was a gem of pure undiluted ignorance.

I was going to put some of his claims in a local magazine as examples of
what happens when you close your mind to knowledge.
Part of a discussion on the passionately ignorant, and the creep of psuedo
scientists
There's a lot of material to choose from.