Bright NOSS trios

Hmmmm ??
I was using 8/56 binocs - and my wife was using 8/40's. Both have plenty FOV
so not sure why we missed the 3rd member.
We were in the correct feild (Cygnus) at the correct time for us (21:40 mid
point) and what were saw was definately flying a parallel path.
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)

Thanx Patty!!!

Ron

In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)

I hope that other people here who have seen NOSS satellites more
often will chime in with their take on that question, but as I posted
in my report a couple of nights ago, the geometry of the triangle
changed considerably during the pass.

When I first spotted them (not long before their maximum elevation),
they were in an elongated right triangle. By the time they disappeared
several minutes later, the triangle was very flat.


Patty

In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Do they fly an angled straight line - or a triangle formation?
(might help us the next time)

I hope that other people here who have seen NOSS satellites more
often will chime in with their take on that question, but as I posted
in my report a couple of nights ago, the geometry of the triangle
changed considerably during the pass.

When I first spotted them (not long before their maximum elevation),
they were in an elongated right triangle. By the time they disappeared
several minutes later, the triangle was very flat.


Patty

Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

Regards,
Peter


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Ed Cannon) wrote:

Right now NOSS 2-1 trio is making bright passes, southbound in
the evening -- with good conditions and a pass not too low in
the sky they can be easy to see without binoculars. This time
of year if NOSS 2-1, 2-2, or 2-3 trio are southbound in the
evening (at least for 30 north latitude), they're almost always
bright.

Ed Cannon - - Austin, Texas, USA
(Remove "donotspam".)

Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

Regards,
Peter


On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:12:25 +0000 (UTC),
(Ed Cannon) wrote:

Right now NOSS 2-1 trio is making bright passes, southbound in
the evening -- with good conditions and a pass not too low in
the sky they can be easy to see without binoculars. This time
of year if NOSS 2-1, 2-2, or 2-3 trio are southbound in the
evening (at least for 30 north latitude), they're almost always
bright.

Ed Cannon - - Austin, Texas, USA
(Remove "donotspam".)

"IceBlue" wrote in message
news
Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

They are tracked by hobbyists, who maintain precise orbital elements.
Heavens-Above is one of the web sites where our elements can be found. It
also produces predictions.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

I have appended the latest elements of the second and third generation
groups.. They should be accurate to within a few seconds of time for several
months.

Ted Molczan

NOSS 2-1 (C)
1 20691U 90050C 04189.13208188 .00000010 00000-0 11974-4 0 05
2 20691 63.4170 94.8759 0378000 1.1666 358.8334 13.40453102 08
NOSS 2-1 (D)
1 20692U 90050D 04189.13215852 .00000010 00000-0 12014-4 0 08
2 20692 63.4120 94.6298 0376500 1.7843 358.2157 13.40453354 02
NOSS 2-1 (E)
1 20642U 90050E 04189.13205701 .00000010 00000-0 12094-4 0 03
2 20642 63.4130 94.2022 0373500 356.5087 3.4913 13.40453159 09

NOSS 2-2 (C)
1 21799U 91076C 04159.91786143 .00000020 00000-0 26465-4 0 01
2 21799 63.4190 56.3891 0330000 1.1993 358.8006 13.40454867 06
NOSS 2-2 (D)
1 21808U 91076D 04159.91799012 .00000010 00000-0 13155-4 0 02
2 21808 63.4160 56.6420 0333000 0.9637 359.0363 13.40455073 09
NOSS 2-2 (E)
1 21809U 91076E 04159.91787730 .00000020 00000-0 26823-4 0 04
2 21809 63.4180 56.1204 0323000 354.5800 5.4199 13.40454705 06

NOSS 2-3 (C)
1 23908U 96029C 04188.97803674 .00000010 00000-0 16436-4 0 01
2 23908 63.4240 255.7295 0187000 356.9395 3.0605 13.40455253 00
NOSS 2-3 (D)
1 23862U 96029D 04188.97801828 .00000010 00000-0 16400-4 0 00
2 23862 63.4190 255.8120 0189000 0.3497 359.6503 13.40454559 01
NOSS 2-3 (E)
1 23936U 96029E 04188.97809560 .00000010 00000-0 16418-4 0 02
2 23936 63.4260 255.9506 0188000 0.4610 359.5390 13.40455244 02

NOSS 3-1 (C)
1 26907U 01040C 04188.88707155 .00000010 00000-0 18100-4 0 09
2 26907 63.4310 193.2546 0045000 176.7852 183.2147 13.40464420 02
NOSS 3-1 (A)
1 26905U 01040A 04189.11096043 .00000040 00000-0 72370-4 0 03
2 26905 63.4310 192.8932 0046500 175.1213 184.8787 13.40464675 03

NOSS 3-2 (A)
1 28095U 03054A 04188.92116617 .00000020 00000-0 35126-4 0 06
2 28095 63.4330 110.2923 0111000 178.7082 181.2918 13.40458973 03
NOSS 3-2 (C)
1 28097U 03054C 04188.92125107 .00000020 00000-0 35115-4 0 00
2 28097 63.4350 110.4715 0111500 178.9262 181.0738 13.40458589 06

"IceBlue" wrote in message
news
Using the Oribital Information Group website based at Goddard Space &
Flight Center I was unable to attain the TLE's for the NOSS Trios.

Can you tell me where I can get them from please?

They are tracked by hobbyists, who maintain precise orbital elements.
Heavens-Above is one of the web sites where our elements can be found. It
also produces predictions.

http://www.heavens-above.com/

I have appended the latest elements of the second and third generation
groups.. They should be accurate to within a few seconds of time for several
months.

Ted Molczan

NOSS 2-1 (C)
1 20691U 90050C 04189.13208188 .00000010 00000-0 11974-4 0 05
2 20691 63.4170 94.8759 0378000 1.1666 358.8334 13.40453102 08
NOSS 2-1 (D)
1 20692U 90050D 04189.13215852 .00000010 00000-0 12014-4 0 08
2 20692 63.4120 94.6298 0376500 1.7843 358.2157 13.40453354 02
NOSS 2-1 (E)
1 20642U 90050E 04189.13205701 .00000010 00000-0 12094-4 0 03
2 20642 63.4130 94.2022 0373500 356.5087 3.4913 13.40453159 09

NOSS 2-2 (C)
1 21799U 91076C 04159.91786143 .00000020 00000-0 26465-4 0 01
2 21799 63.4190 56.3891 0330000 1.1993 358.8006 13.40454867 06
NOSS 2-2 (D)
1 21808U 91076D 04159.91799012 .00000010 00000-0 13155-4 0 02
2 21808 63.4160 56.6420 0333000 0.9637 359.0363 13.40455073 09
NOSS 2-2 (E)
1 21809U 91076E 04159.91787730 .00000020 00000-0 26823-4 0 04
2 21809 63.4180 56.1204 0323000 354.5800 5.4199 13.40454705 06

NOSS 2-3 (C)
1 23908U 96029C 04188.97803674 .00000010 00000-0 16436-4 0 01
2 23908 63.4240 255.7295 0187000 356.9395 3.0605 13.40455253 00
NOSS 2-3 (D)
1 23862U 96029D 04188.97801828 .00000010 00000-0 16400-4 0 00
2 23862 63.4190 255.8120 0189000 0.3497 359.6503 13.40454559 01
NOSS 2-3 (E)
1 23936U 96029E 04188.97809560 .00000010 00000-0 16418-4 0 02
2 23936 63.4260 255.9506 0188000 0.4610 359.5390 13.40455244 02

NOSS 3-1 (C)
1 26907U 01040C 04188.88707155 .00000010 00000-0 18100-4 0 09
2 26907 63.4310 193.2546 0045000 176.7852 183.2147 13.40464420 02
NOSS 3-1 (A)
1 26905U 01040A 04189.11096043 .00000040 00000-0 72370-4 0 03
2 26905 63.4310 192.8932 0046500 175.1213 184.8787 13.40464675 03

NOSS 3-2 (A)
1 28095U 03054A 04188.92116617 .00000020 00000-0 35126-4 0 06
2 28095 63.4330 110.2923 0111000 178.7082 181.2918 13.40458973 03
NOSS 3-2 (C)
1 28097U 03054C 04188.92125107 .00000020 00000-0 35115-4 0 00
2 28097 63.4350 110.4715 0111500 178.9262 181.0738 13.40458589 06

Patty;
Thanx again for your help.
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.
I was again using my 8/56 Orion Binocs - and my wife was watching naked eye.
(6.3 mag for us here) 1 leading and the other 2 following in an elongated
slightly out of shape right triangle.
They filled my FOV and were quite bright. We watched them untill they - 1 by 1
faded from view.

Ron

Patty;
Thanx again for your help.
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.
I was again using my 8/56 Orion Binocs - and my wife was watching naked eye.
(6.3 mag for us here) 1 leading and the other 2 following in an elongated
slightly out of shape right triangle.
They filled my FOV and were quite bright. We watched them untill they - 1 by 1
faded from view.

Ron

In article ,
Ron Netzley wrote:
Tonight my wife and I again watched the Noss "Triplet" go over (directly
overhead) and we saw all three.

Yay! Pretty interesting, aren't they?

BTW, I forget, did you say earlier where you live?

Thanks again to Ed for bringing these current passes to everyone's
attention, and to Ted for the additional information.


Patty