The Primordial Solar System

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 4:51:08 PM UTC-6, Sylvain wrote:
Le 14/11/2018 Ã* 23:38, Mark Earnest a écritÂ*:
No I'm not going to read it because it is nonsense. If heavy elements require elements from previous generation stars, then those of the previous generation do as well. It is has to start somewhere, and neither you nor science are able to explain how. No one bothers to think this one out. Just say you do not know, then you will be right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_nucleosynthesis

The first generation of the stars had only hydrogen not heavy elements
before that was the big bang


Now you are not being coherent. You require heavy elements to come from a previous generation, going to an ultimate previous generation which...did not even have heavy elements? You are chasing your tail around a tree.

Swallow your pride and admit you do not know where the heavy elements came from--that no one does. Only in this way can you find the answer.

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 4:26:13 PM UTC-6, Sylvain wrote:
Le 14/11/2018 Ã* 22:25, Mark Earnest a écritÂ*:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:01:21 PM UTC-6, Sylvain wrote:
Le 14/11/2018 Ã* 17:37, Mark Earnest a écritÂ*:
Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy elements, just hydrogen from deep space from the Big Bang. How did it all come together to form the worlds we know and love today?

No one knows.


No, the sun, like almost all stars, isn't first generation after the big
bang.

The previous stars made all other elements


That does not make any sense. Then where did the previous generation get its

heavy elements? You forgot to think this thing through.


The stars by burning hydrogen make the elements heavier, helium,
nitrogen, carbon, oxygen

These elements fall in the center of the star. With their mass the
pressure and heat increase, other nuclear reactions make the heavy
elements. the nuclear reactions blow up by making a nebula.

After in the nebula, stars with planets find all elements to appear

Read it:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucl%C...A8se_stellaire

No I'm not going to read it because it is nonsense. If heavy elements require elements from previous generation stars, then those of the previous generation do as well. It is has to start somewhere, and neither you nor science are able to explain how. No one bothers to think this one out. Just say you do not know, then you will be right.

My theory is the micro realm (QM) came first it came unto the macro realm as a Black Hole a the time we call the event the "Big Bang" BB had to start with all there is and gravity created and made the universe we see today.It could not be any other way,G=EMC^2 Bert

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Mark Earnest wrote:

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-6, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article ,
Mark Earnest wrote:

Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy elements,

All the iron and nickel in the earth's core came from that cloud. It was
mostly
hydrogen and helium, but it had all the elements up through uranium.


No it was all hydrogen. Elements had to start somewhere.

They started in Brooklyn like everyone else.

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On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:24:04 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:18:28 AM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
Your claim is wrong. The solar system was once a cloud of gas, sure, but is was not just hydrogen, it was composed of virtually *all* the elements currently found in the solar system, even if it was *mostly* hydrogen. How could it be otherwise?

Read a book on stellar evolution and learn a thing or 2, rather than just make it up as you go along, that only makes you look uneducated and lazy..

Don't be stupid. It was all hydrogen. Matter had to start somewhere.

I'm not the stupid one here.

Sure, matter had to start somewhere, and that would be in the cores of the very first stars, which were made from pure hydrogen and helium... and they almost certainly had no planets. Those stars lived and died normal lives, and the biggest of them created all the heavier elements when they went supernova. Those heavier elements mixed with other hydrogen clouds and a second generation of stars were born, this time with planets formed from those aforementioned heavier elements.

Read a book about stellar evolution, rather than disparage people who clearly know a whole lot more about this subject than you do, which is essentially zero. To do otherwise only reveals your total stupidity about all of this.

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-6, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article ,
Mark Earnest wrote:

Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy elements,

All the iron and nickel in the earth's core came from that cloud. It was mostly
hydrogen and helium, but it had all the elements up through uranium.


No it was all hydrogen. Elements had to start somewhere.


Wrong!

Double-A

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Double-A wrote:

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-6, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article ,
Mark Earnest wrote:

Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy
elements,

All the iron and nickel in the earth's core came from that cloud. It was
mostly
hydrogen and helium, but it had all the elements up through uranium.


No it was all hydrogen. Elements had to start somewhere.


Wrong!

Double-A

How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Fusion! Fusion!

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On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 2:43:05 PM UTC-6, Double-A wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-6, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article ,
Mark Earnest wrote:

Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy elements,

All the iron and nickel in the earth's core came from that cloud. It was mostly
hydrogen and helium, but it had all the elements up through uranium.


No it was all hydrogen. Elements had to start somewhere.


Wrong!

Double-A

On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 2:43:05 PM UTC-6, Double-A wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:28:00 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-6, Siri Cruise wrote:
In article ,
Mark Earnest wrote:

Once the Solar System was nothing but a cloud of gas. No heavy elements,

All the iron and nickel in the earth's core came from that cloud. It was mostly
hydrogen and helium, but it had all the elements up through uranium.


No it was all hydrogen. Elements had to start somewhere.


Wrong!

You are not exactly the one who decides.

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:24:04 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:18:28 AM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
Your claim is wrong. The solar system was once a cloud of gas, sure, but is was not just hydrogen, it was composed of virtually *all* the elements currently found in the solar system, even if it was *mostly* hydrogen. How could it be otherwise?

Read a book on stellar evolution and learn a thing or 2, rather than just make it up as you go along, that only makes you look uneducated and lazy.

Don't be stupid. It was all hydrogen. Matter had to start somewhere.

Here, a 'picture book', easy to understand, even for you...

http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/.../formation.pdf

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 1:24:04 PM UTC-8, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 11:18:28 AM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
Your claim is wrong. The solar system was once a cloud of gas, sure, but is was not just hydrogen, it was composed of virtually *all* the elements currently found in the solar system, even if it was *mostly* hydrogen. How could it be otherwise?

Read a book on stellar evolution and learn a thing or 2, rather than just make it up as you go along, that only makes you look uneducated and lazy.

Don't be stupid. It was all hydrogen. Matter had to start somewhere.

Here, take your choice, lots of good stuff here. Be careful, you might just learn something...

https://tinyurl.com/ybbapcrr