Sunset at the South pole

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 2:11:06 AM UTC, palsing wrote:

Gerald, of course, has no talent for perspective whatsoever, and he has admitted to this more than once over the years. The poor fellow is doomed to fail without this very important gift, so sad for him...

All human gifts are from the Spirit of God and that is why I am not at the center of my own insights, even one as wonderful as the polar dawn and the requirement that it takes a rotation to explain it -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

If ever a person exists that defies a sunrise as being anything other than a rotating Earth they have something to condemn themselves with for although all people die not everyone truly lives.

It turns out there are two types of day/night cycles to consider with separate rotations behind them. For those who can appreciate these dual surface rotations then so well and good but for those who would deny the insight in order to attack me they offend themselves and the inspiration which makes it possible. It is a hollowed out existence that ever lived and contrary to all that is productive and creative.

All explanations of the Equinox abound with the same error repeated over and over again in an attempt to further the ideologies of celestial sphere enthusiasts and the awful misuse of imaging -

"In Latin, the first day of spring is called is called the vernal equinox. The term vernal is Latin for "spring" and equinox is Latin for "equal night.." The length of day and night are generally equal across the entire planet today. It doesn't matter whether you are standing on the north or south poles, the equator or anywhere in the middle, nearly everyone has 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness. It's not exact because of time zones, topography and other geological factors." Typical explanation of Equinox

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/03/1...begins-sunday/

The polar day/night cycle at the North and South poles just before the Equinox brings into consideration that it is polar dawn at the North pole while it is not quite polar twilight at the South pole insofar as the Sun is still in view.

The Sun has been absent from the North pole for the last 6 months hence the myth that all locations experience roughly 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness today and around the Equinox.

http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/antarctica/south-pole

The Sun is close to disappearing from view at the Southern polar latitude on Antarctica and there will be two different types of sunsets that day.

After this there will only be one planetary sunrise and sunset each day as the planet turns to the Sun until the September Equinox when polar sunrises and sunsets are reversed.

People with goodness in their heart can look out at sunset this evening and know that within one day of the year two distinct sunsets happen, one due to daily rotation and the other as a function of the orbital motion of the Earth around the Sun.

The entire planet has have moved to its orbital position where the South polar surface point has turned through the circle of illumination and the Sun is no longer in view -

http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/antarctica/south-pole

The graceful sweep of planetary motion and the surface rotation which causes the transition from polar daylight to polar darkness where the Sun is out of sight for 6 months and half the planet's orbit is not taught in schools nor appreciated by any audience but it is there and inviting any and all to bring a fresh look at astronomy, planetary motions and the links to terrestrial sciences.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:18:09 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
The entire planet has have moved to its orbital position where the South polar surface point has turned through the circle of illumination and the Sun is no longer in view -

http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/antarctica/south-pole

The graceful sweep of planetary motion and the surface rotation which causes the transition from polar daylight to polar darkness where the Sun is out of sight for 6 months and half the planet's orbit is not taught in schools nor appreciated by any audience but it is there and inviting any and all to bring a fresh look at astronomy, planetary motions and the links to terrestrial sciences.

Note also, on that same chart shown on your link, that for the rest of the month there is continual Civil Twilight, meaning that the sun is always less than 6 degrees below the horizon. In other words, it is never dark there at this time of the year.

If you keep checking back over the next couple of weeks you will see that on April 5th Civil Twilight will end and Nautical Twilight will begin, that being defined as the Sun being between 6 and 12 degrees below the horizon.

Then, on April 22nd, Nautical Twilight end and Astronomical Twilight will begin, that definition being that the sun is between 12 and 18 degrees below the horizon, quit dark but not as dark as it can be. It is not fully dark anywhere on the surface of the Earth until the Sun is fully more than 18 degrees below the horizon.

Finally, on May 12th, Astronomical Twilight ends, as the Sun is more than 18 degrees below the horizon and it is completely dark...

On August 1st 2016, at 8:04 A.M., Astronomical Twilight starts again, and the entire process reverses itself, ending at 11:04 P.M. on September 20th, when the Sun (or at least a little piece of it) is once again up all day!

Of course, you already knew this, right?

I can't deal with celestial sphere enthusiasts right now, the disappearance of the Sun from the South pole is a consequence of a surface rotation arising from the orbital motion of the Earth and looks roughly like this -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...precession.svg

It doesn't matter how many times I produce that graphic in tandem with the observed dual surface rotations of Uranus (minus that planet's circle of illumination), the wonderful astronomical event where two separate types of sunrises and sunsets happen within the same day goes unappreciated.

It takes 6 months from polar sunrise to polar sunset where the Sun appears above one horizon and disappears from view 6 months later and like all daily sunsets, it is due to a surface rotation of the Earth to the Sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM


You have celestial sphere dummies talking up the Sun crossing the 'celestial equator' when the nearest observation is polar sunrise and sunset at the Equinoxes. I know only too well that these radical guys have the ability to blot out an observation in order to keep themselves inside their homocentric ideology built on Ra/Dec but it is not possible that everyone can do it.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:20:13 PM UTC, palsing wrote:

On August 1st 2016, at 8:04 A.M., Astronomical Twilight starts again, and the entire process reverses itself, ending at 11:04 P.M. on September 20th, when the Sun (or at least a little piece of it) is once again up all day!

Of course, you already knew this, right?

I am not dealing with you from now on.

The reason that the Sun is absent from view at either pole for 6 months is due to a distinct rotation arising from the orbital behavior of the Earth.

In a fundamentalist regime this great event that happened today is ignored as is the rotational cause behind it.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:36:34 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

I can't deal with celestial sphere enthusiasts right now...

You can't deal with celestial sphere enthusiasts *ever*... you just don't understand the simple concepts of astronomy.

rest of your incessant fantasy blessedly snipped

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:40:53 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 7:20:13 PM UTC, palsing wrote:

On August 1st 2016, at 8:04 A.M., Astronomical Twilight starts again, and the entire process reverses itself, ending at 11:04 P.M. on September 20th, when the Sun (or at least a little piece of it) is once again up all day!

Of course, you already knew this, right?

I am not dealing with you from now on.

Is that a promise or a threat?

Perhaps you should stop dealing with this forum completely. You have nothing to say that has much value, and much to say that is completely worthless. It would be different if you could learn from the many really smart people here, but just about everyone here knows that you have always been unteachable, and are unlikely to change much in the future. I doubt if you even read this far...

The polar sunrise/sunset or the polar day/night cycle which takes an orbit to complete and the rotation behind it is for those who can escape the celestial sphere ideologies which plague Western civilization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

It is as gorgeous for those who have some human goodness to take notice as it will be abhorred by those who are as crude as any people ever to appear on this planet.

Heaven is in people's hearts while hell is in their heads.