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Interesting paper, but a little dry and inconclusive.
"Analysis of the data from all four gyroscopes results in a geodetic drift rate of -6,601.8+/- 18.3 mas/yr and a frame-dragging drift rate of -37.2 +/- 7.2 mas/yr, to be compared with the GR predictions of -6,606.1 mas/yr and -39.2 mas/yr, respectively (`mas' is milliarc-second; 1mas = 4.848 x 10-9 rad). " So ... why the 4.3 mas/year discrepancy in geodetic frame drift rate and 2.0 mas/year discrepancy in frame-dragging drift rate? Systematic errors? Error bars? Flaws in GR? Did you even read the paper, or just skim the abstract? A mere confirmation of GR to within the limits of confidence in the data constrained by the engineering of the machine? In short, GP-B was a failure? Confirming a prediction of GR now counts as failure? |
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Did you even read the paper, or just skim the abstract?
Both, why? Because several of your questions were answered in the paper. Confirming a prediction of GR now counts as failure? Yes, insofar as it advances the scientific base very little, gains us no new physics, doesn't allow us a new technology like the WWWeb and costs us a satellite and some man-years of highly educated scientists and trying-to-get-educated PHD students. Oh, the horror, those poor Ph. D. students who had to work on a FAILED mission, one that gave the best verification of GR to date! They'll never get jobs now with that stain on their resume. |
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On Sat, 03 May 2014 00:03:53 +0100, John wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2014 20:09:52 +0000 (UTC), Greg Hennessy wrote: On 2014-05-02, wrote: What happened to Gravity Probe B, the Stanford experiment to test GR? They sent their detector into orbit 3 years ago, but since then, no word. Anybody here connected to that? Could be prime grist for the conspiracy intellectuals - The final results were released in May 2011. The results were published in Physical Review Letters. A copy can be found at http://arxiv.org/abs/1105.3456 Cool, thank you for this. I managed to miss the results and I forgot to look for them. Interesting paper, but a little dry and inconclusive. "Analysis of the data from all four gyroscopes results in a geodetic drift rate of -6,601.8+/- 18.3 mas/yr and a frame-dragging drift rate of -37.2 +/- 7.2 mas/yr, to be compared with the GR predictions of -6,606.1 mas/yr and -39.2 mas/yr, respectively (`mas' is milliarc-second; 1mas = 4.848 x 10-9 rad). " So ... why the 4.3 mas/year discrepancy in geodetic frame drift rate and 2.0 mas/year discrepancy in frame-dragging drift rate? Systematic errors? Error bars? Flaws in GR? The passage you quote shows the discrepancy is within the error bars. |
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On Friday, May 2, 2014 10:12:55 AM UTC-7, wrote:
What happened to Gravity Probe B, the Stanford experiment to test GR? They sent their detector into orbit 3 years ago, but since then, no word. Anybody here connected to that? Could be prime grist for the conspiracy intellectuals - -- Rich They ran out of public loot, and once again managed to not advance nor improve anything. |
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