A Perpetual Calendar that Respects the Week

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, badastrobuster wrote:
Notice how carefully Oriel, over a period of some years, has avoided
explaining exactly where his views and the views of other members of
this group differ. He writes whole paragraphs - sometimes nultiple
paragraphs - hundreds of times a year but refuses to explain something
as basic as this.

He also refuses to answer any questions designed to identify what the
difference might be.

As an example - Oriel, if you look due south at midnight on July 1st
and again at midnight on January 1st of the next year will you see the
same stars in the same places.

Yes or no?

I wouldn't expect anyone else to share the load,God knows it becomes
intolerable,but the least this community can do is to stop more damage
being done as they try to morph to another fabricated story of an
idealized rotation once in 24 hours back in 1820.There are students
out there who can easily grasp the foundations of timekeeping and how
they connect to the planetary cycles,an advanced student may even come
to understand the technical ins and outs of how they jumped the tracks
with right ascension,but it all depends on sharing the load rather
than this crime of silence.

There is nothing more I could do even if I wanted to continue but that
is where somebody else begins and God bless them in their endeavor.
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Is that a yes or is that a no, Kelleher?

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On Jan 6, 12:59*pm, oriel36 wrote:

I wouldn't expect anyone else to share the load, God knows it becomes
intolerable, but the least this community can do

The trouble is, *if* we believed that what you were saying was true,
we would help share the load of spreading the news. But since we
don't, we would likely believe that doing anything to help your
efforts in any way would be hurtful to the truth...

is to stop more damage
being done as they try to morph to another fabricated story of an
idealized rotation once in 24 hours back in 1820.

however, you don't have to worry about this one happening. The claim
that the Earth rotates in 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds is not
being abandoned or modified in any way.

Yes, occasionally, the complication required to fully acknowledge the
Earth's orbital motions is sometimes set aside, and the 24 hour solar
day compound motion is referred to as a 'rotation' of the Earth when
the Earth's orbital motion is not directly relevant to the subject
under discussion. This isn't something new, people have been doing
this for the last hundred years from time to time.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/science/eot.htm

badastrobuster
Notice how carefully Oriel...

No, because he's in my kill-file. Say hello to him in there for me.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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On Jan 6, 2:46*pm, badastrobuster wrote:
Notice how carefully Oriel, over a period of some years, has avoided
explaining exactly where his views and the views of other members of
this group differ. He writes whole paragraphs - sometimes nultiple
paragraphs - hundreds of times a year but refuses to explain something
as basic as this.

He also refuses to answer any questions designed to identify what the
difference might be.

As an example - Oriel, if you look due south at midnight on July 1st
and again at midnight on January 1st of the next year will you see the
same stars in the same places.

Yes or no?

It would be interesting to see if "Oriole" could get by a CAPTCHA (not
practical on USENET.)

On Jan 7, 5:13*am, wrote:
On Jan 6, 2:46*pm, badastrobuster wrote:

Notice how carefully Oriel, over a period of some years, has avoided
explaining exactly where his views and the views of other members of
this group differ. He writes whole paragraphs - sometimes nultiple
paragraphs - hundreds of times a year but refuses to explain something
as basic as this.

He also refuses to answer any questions designed to identify what the
difference might be.

As an example - Oriel, if you look due south at midnight on July 1st
and again at midnight on January 1st of the next year will you see the
same stars in the same places.

Yes or no?

It would be interesting to see if "Oriole" could get by a CAPTCHA (not
practical on USENET.)

It is one of the saddest sights imaginable as astronomy was overrun by
people who had no regard for its precepts apart from destroying them
in order to promote themselves above the topics they profess to
understand yet clearly do not.The trend, therefore, is towards
homocentricity - a complete disregard for the celestial arena and
human involvement in discovery of the Earth's motions or the use of
the Earth's motions as the foundations for timekeeping.It is no longer
my issue,the new story of an idealized rotation once in 24 hours back
in 1820 is a continuation of a homocentric process that has gone on
for centuries and shows no sign of abating.

The way the timekeepers and the great astronomers laid out their
arguments,insights and discoveries are as enjoyable today as when they
first appeared,it takes only people with hearts big enough to allow
them to tell their own stories and when possible to modify or adapt
new approaches without distorting them for self serving ends as they
did a number of centuries ago.

The Christian life is life in more abundance,a more rooted connection
between the individual and the Universal and even in this dark
era,that light shines brighter than it ever did.May people here find
it in some way and ,when possible,add to what others have done.

It always amazes me that not very much time elapses before the Or***
subject gets resurrected once again.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, to add this aloof
guy to your rejection filters.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, to ignore this
aloof guy's posts because of their meaningless content.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, that trying to have
a conversation with this guy ends up taking up unnecessary Internet
bandwidth.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, that continuing to
reply to these unnecessary posts defeats the purpose of the kill filters
for those sensible among us who don't want to see his or others
worthless posts.

Need I go on, or has the point been made, and made, and MADE AGAIN!

I think some of you must be caught in a quantum reality where the
uncertainty principle doesn't apply because if it did, the mere mention
of this non-matching atomic signature would have gone against the
scientific principles present within your reality. Obviously, these
types of quantum realities must exist, but I don't have to subscribe to
them.

Bottom line for all who keep the Or*** phenomenon alive.... get a life,
either within the current space-time continuum or an alternate one where
the quantum realities don't overlap.

"Honest Abe" wrote in message ...

It always amazes me that not very much time elapses before the Or***
subject gets resurrected once again.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, to add this aloof
guy to your rejection filters.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, to ignore this
aloof guy's posts because of their meaningless content.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, that trying to have
a conversation with this guy ends up taking up unnecessary Internet
bandwidth.

It has been suggested not just once, but many times, that continuing to
reply to these unnecessary posts defeats the purpose of the kill filters
for those sensible among us who don't want to see his or others
worthless posts.

Need I go on, or has the point been made, and made, and MADE AGAIN!

I think some of you must be caught in a quantum reality where the
uncertainty principle doesn't apply because if it did, the mere mention
of this non-matching atomic signature would have gone against the
scientific principles present within your reality. Obviously, these
types of quantum realities must exist, but I don't have to subscribe to
them.

Bottom line for all who keep the Or*** phenomenon alive.... get a life,
either within the current space-time continuum or an alternate one where
the quantum realities don't overlap.
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As the miserable whining Honest Abe only shows his griping head above the
parapet to bitch and moan about Kelleher and not to entertain us as Kelleher
does, he shall be killfiled. *plonk*

-- This message is brought to you from the keyboard of
Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway.
When I get my O.B.E. I'll be an earlobe.

In sci.astro.amateur message , Mon, 7 Jan
2013 04:14:43, Honest Abe posted:


It has been suggested not just once, but many times, that continuing to
reply to these unnecessary posts defeats the purpose of the kill
filters for those sensible among us who don't want to see his or others
worthless posts.


Not really. Anyone who persistently responds to the phenomenon id
obviously a fool, and can safely be kill-filed too.

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