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Old December 4th 11, 12:24 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There will be people unmoved by the time lapse footage which
contemporary images introduces into astronomy as they rely on focusing
on graphs,models and what have you but for those who can raise their
perceptions to looking into the celestial arena from a moving
Earth,the interplay can be as beautiful as the complexity of the human
body or the vast diversity of life on this planet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwwioJhQzeg

What makes the issue so painful is that we can look back on our planet
and immerse ourselves in the cyclical stream of its motions for just
long enough to make our own existence relevant and the continuing
history of humanity.You cannot see the sullen ideologies of people in
the time lapse video nor imagine that humans can control temperatures
on this magnificent planet,perhaps pollution and resources we can
control,but life goes on here as nowhere else and rather than this
desperate search for life elsewhere,astronomers must return a sense of
vibrancy to a discipline that is run ragged with novelties and
meaningless junk.

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Old December 4th 11, 03:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Dec 4, 1:24*pm, o'kelleher wrote:
meaningless junk.


Arrogance + Colossal = Fool.

You do the maths, windbag.
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Old December 4th 11, 04:01 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It is approaching orbital midnight at the North polar latitude and
along a line that circles the globe where correspondingly there is
orbital noon at the South polar coordinate,it conveys the information
that like the daily cycle,somewhere it is always noon and somewhere
else it is midnight with the added orbital daylight/darkness cycle
taking a year to complete.I would like to think that readers are
familiar enough with the separate orbital daylight/darkness cycle to
do a better job of explaining it in 2012 as it is a genuine
insight.There is no time lapse footage as yet of this planetary
orbital trait yet there is footage of the amazing spectacle that
occurs near the poles -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYLd...eature=related

There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning and the tragic belief in the
imbalance between days and rotations within the confines of 4 years/4
orbital circuits.





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Old December 4th 11, 08:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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oriel36 wrote:
It is approaching orbital midnight at the North polar latitude and
along a line that circles the globe where correspondingly there is
orbital noon at the South polar coordinate,it conveys the information
that like the daily cycle,somewhere it is always noon and somewhere
else it is midnight with the added orbital daylight/darkness cycle
taking a year to complete.

Nonsense words which have no meaning. Orbital midnight indeed! A phrase you
made up to make it sound to the ignorant that you have something real to
say.


I would like to think that readers are
familiar enough with the separate orbital daylight/darkness cycle to
do a better job of explaining it in 2012 as it is a genuine
insight.


No it's a delusion.


There is no time lapse footage as yet of this planetary
orbital trait


And there will never be any because it doesn't exist.



yet there is footage of the amazing spectacle that
occurs near the poles -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYLd...eature=related


Which has nothing to do with your point.
There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning and the tragic belief in the
imbalance between days and rotations within the confines of 4 years/4
orbital circuits.

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Old December 5th 11, 03:43 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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On Dec 4, 9:17*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
It is approaching orbital midnight at the North polar latitude and
along a line that circles the globe where correspondingly there is
orbital noon at the South polar coordinate,it conveys the information
that like the daily cycle,somewhere it is always noon and somewhere
else it is midnight with the added orbital daylight/darkness cycle
taking a year to complete.


Nonsense words which have no meaning. Orbital midnight indeed! A phrase you
made up to make it sound to the ignorant that you have something real to
say.


All locations on the planet experience a single daylight/darkness
cycle due to the orbital motion of the Earth with the polar
coordinates a clear window into that great cycle where the polar
coordinate turn in a circle/cycle to the central Sun.

The East to West orbital component of Uranus is set off against the
South to North daily rotation so,drawing on direct observations and
applying them locally, it is a certainty that relative to the central
Sun,somewhere on Earth it is orbital noon and somewhere else orbital
midnight

http://www.newscientist.com/data/ima...2529-1_800.jpg

That is why it is a different type of astronomy,contemporary imaging
and time lapse footage makes it so easy to transfer to the Earth's
characteristics so if you cannot appreciate what is in front of you
then I am sorry but there is room for people who simply can see the
orbital cycle and handle it in terms of global climate and variations
in natural noon when applied to daily rotation.



I would like to think that readers are

familiar enough with the separate orbital daylight/darkness cycle to
do a better job of explaining it in 2012 as it is a genuine
insight.


No it's a delusion.


There is always the experimental analogy which allows a person to use
a broom to substitute for daily rotation and orientation and walking/
orbiting a central object to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
and that the polar coordinates do turn in a circle.If the smallest
effort was given towards putting the analogy in context there would be
no rubbish about human control over global temperatures.



There is no time lapse footage as yet of this planetary

orbital trait


And there will never be any because it doesn't exist.


Well,there already is for Uranus so affirmation is beyond doubt -

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/arc...99/11/video/b/



yet there is footage of the amazing spectacle that
occurs near the poles -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYLd...eature=related


Which has nothing to do with your point.



Do not be so dull,the chances are that electormagnetic properties due
to the uneven rotational gradient between equator and poles light up
when bombarded with incoming radiation from the Sun but this is just
another topic to consider among many but won't be done y people who
insist on an even rotational gradient to stellar circumpolar motion.





There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning and the tragic belief in the
imbalance between days and rotations within the confines of 4 years/4
orbital circuits.




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Old December 5th 11, 04:04 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
palsing[_2_]
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On Dec 5, 7:43*am, oriel36 wrote:
On Dec 4, 9:17*pm, Mike Collins wrote:

oriel36 wrote:
It is approaching orbital midnight at the North polar latitude and
along a line that circles the globe where correspondingly there is
orbital noon at the South polar coordinate,it conveys the information
that like the daily cycle,somewhere it is always noon and somewhere
else it is midnight with the added orbital daylight/darkness cycle
taking a year to complete.


Nonsense words which have no meaning. Orbital midnight indeed! A phrase you
made up to make it sound to the ignorant that you have something real to
say.


All locations on the planet experience a single daylight/darkness
cycle due to the orbital motion of the Earth with the polar
coordinates a clear window into that great cycle where the polar
coordinate turn in a circle/cycle to the central Sun.

The East to West orbital component of Uranus is set off against the
South to North daily rotation so,drawing on direct observations and
applying them locally, it is a certainty that relative to the central
Sun,somewhere on Earth it is orbital noon and somewhere else orbital
midnight

http://www.newscientist.com/data/ima...2529-1_800.jpg

That is why it is a different type of astronomy,contemporary imaging
and time lapse footage makes it so easy to transfer to the Earth's
characteristics so if you cannot appreciate what is in front of you
then I am sorry *but there is room for people who simply can see the
orbital cycle and handle it in terms of global climate and variations
in natural noon when applied to daily rotation.

I would like to think that readers are


familiar enough with the separate orbital daylight/darkness cycle to
do a better job of explaining it in 2012 as it is a genuine
insight.


No it's a delusion.


There is always the experimental analogy which allows a person to use
a broom to substitute for daily rotation and orientation *and walking/
orbiting a central object to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
and that the polar coordinates do turn in a circle.If the smallest
effort was given towards putting the analogy in context there would be
no rubbish about human control over global temperatures.

There is no time lapse footage as yet of this planetary


orbital trait


And there will never be any because it doesn't exist.


Well,there already is for Uranus so affirmation is beyond doubt -

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/arc...99/11/video/b/

yet there is footage of the amazing spectacle that
occurs near the poles -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYLd...eature=related


Which has nothing to do with your point.


Do not be so dull,the chances are that electormagnetic properties due
to the uneven rotational gradient between equator and poles light up
when bombarded with incoming radiation from the Sun but this is just
another topic to consider among many but won't be done y people who
insist on an even rotational gradient to stellar circumpolar motion.









There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning and the tragic belief in the
imbalance between days and rotations within the confines of 4 years/4
orbital circuits.


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/
2009/11/11/129024282237738265.jpg
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Old December 5th 11, 04:28 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
palsing[_2_]
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On Dec 5, 7:43*am, oriel36 wrote:
On Dec 4, 9:17*pm, Mike Collins wrote:

oriel36 wrote:
It is approaching orbital midnight at the North polar latitude and
along a line that circles the globe where correspondingly there is
orbital noon at the South polar coordinate,it conveys the information
that like the daily cycle,somewhere it is always noon and somewhere
else it is midnight with the added orbital daylight/darkness cycle
taking a year to complete.


Nonsense words which have no meaning. Orbital midnight indeed! A phrase you
made up to make it sound to the ignorant that you have something real to
say.


All locations on the planet experience a single daylight/darkness
cycle due to the orbital motion of the Earth with the polar
coordinates a clear window into that great cycle where the polar
coordinate turn in a circle/cycle to the central Sun.

The East to West orbital component of Uranus is set off against the
South to North daily rotation so,drawing on direct observations and
applying them locally, it is a certainty that relative to the central
Sun,somewhere on Earth it is orbital noon and somewhere else orbital
midnight

http://www.newscientist.com/data/ima...2529-1_800.jpg

That is why it is a different type of astronomy,contemporary imaging
and time lapse footage makes it so easy to transfer to the Earth's
characteristics so if you cannot appreciate what is in front of you
then I am sorry *but there is room for people who simply can see the
orbital cycle and handle it in terms of global climate and variations
in natural noon when applied to daily rotation.

I would like to think that readers are


familiar enough with the separate orbital daylight/darkness cycle to
do a better job of explaining it in 2012 as it is a genuine
insight.


No it's a delusion.


There is always the experimental analogy which allows a person to use
a broom to substitute for daily rotation and orientation *and walking/
orbiting a central object to imitate the orbital behavior of the Earth
and that the polar coordinates do turn in a circle.If the smallest
effort was given towards putting the analogy in context there would be
no rubbish about human control over global temperatures.

There is no time lapse footage as yet of this planetary


orbital trait


And there will never be any because it doesn't exist.


Well,there already is for Uranus so affirmation is beyond doubt -

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/arc...99/11/video/b/

yet there is footage of the amazing spectacle that
occurs near the poles -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYLd...eature=related


Which has nothing to do with your point.


Do not be so dull,the chances are that electormagnetic properties due
to the uneven rotational gradient between equator and poles light up
when bombarded with incoming radiation from the Sun but this is just
another topic to consider among many but won't be done y people who
insist on an even rotational gradient to stellar circumpolar motion.









There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning and the tragic belief in the
imbalance between days and rotations within the confines of 4 years/4
orbital circuits.


http://tinyurl.com/6v2j8c2
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Old December 4th 11, 08:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Dec 4, 9:01*am, oriel36 wrote:

There may be better times ahead when men choose to return to the
geometric language of astronomy and ease understanding for those who
are lost to right ascension reasoning


One cannot make understanding easier by substituting falsehood for
truth.

John Savard
 




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