Risk of Ice Age from Global Warming Confirmed

Thes news articles

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/9697319.cms

http://www.irishweatheronline.com/ne...ate/33052.html

show that there is a genuine possibility that the scenario outlined
long ago in this article from the Atlantic Monthly

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs...an/climate.htm

could come to pass.

John Savard

On Aug 22, 5:05*pm, Quadibloc wrote:

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs...an/climate.htm

could come to pass.

Having lived through unprecedented months of snow and ice for the last
two years I want a refund on my promised warming. I believe even a
mini ice age would be much harder for most of mankind to survive
compared with global warming. It would deny the world most of its
cereal crops and make the developed Northern hemisphere a much more
difficult place to live, work and travel. Losses to hypothermia
amongst the poor and the elderly could be catastrophic given the total
inadequacy of most home insulation and rising energy costs. In a worst
case scenario a major migration of the human race towards the equator
seems completely unworkable without a truly colossal reduction in our
numbers. We can but hope it is a complete flop rather than a real
flip. (if it ever occurs)

On Aug 22, 9:39*am, "Chris.B" wrote:
I believe even a
mini ice age would be much harder for most of mankind to survive
compared with global warming.

As I live in Edmonton, Alberta, I believe that a mini-ice-age would be
much harder for _me_ to survive compared with global warming. Since
most of mankind is poor and lives in the tropics near the Equator, I
can't be sure about how they would fare, although they might indeed
have problems surviving of an *indirect* nature... such as _being_
that part of humanity's numbers being reduced to facilitate a
migration of the rich and well-armed part of humanity towards the
Equator.

John Savard

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
wrote:

As I live in Edmonton, Alberta, I believe that a mini-ice-age would be
much harder for _me_ to survive compared with global warming.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. People can easily deal with either
warmer or colder temperatures. But an overall drop in temperatures in
the temperate northern hemisphere is probably much less stressful to
societies in general. There is more water, and crops will probably
fair better. You are much more likely to suffer from the societal
collapses that occur due to the resource issues and natural disasters
that are peculiar to global warming, and not so much to cooling.

"Chris L Peterson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:14:42 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
wrote:

As I live in Edmonton, Alberta, I believe that a mini-ice-age would be
much harder for _me_ to survive compared with global warming.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. People can easily deal with either
warmer or colder temperatures. But an overall drop in temperatures in
the temperate northern hemisphere is probably much less stressful to
societies in general. There is more water, and crops will probably
fair better. You are much more likely to suffer from the societal
collapses that occur due to the resource issues and natural disasters
that are peculiar to global warming, and not so much to cooling.


http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/...e_ice_age.html

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:43:22 -0500, "David Staup"
wrote:

http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/...e_ice_age.html

And your point?

I'm not arguing that a mini-ice age is good, only that it is less
disruptive than the currently observed warming trend is likely to be.

On Aug 22, 1:58*pm, Chris L Peterson wrote:
But an overall drop in temperatures in
the temperate northern hemisphere is probably much less stressful to
societies in general.

Depends on the size of the drop. If the glaciers start moving, I will
have to get out of the way.

John Savard

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
wrote:

Depends on the size of the drop. If the glaciers start moving, I will
have to get out of the way.

Sure. But nobody is predicting the return of massive glaciation here.
Just something like the Little Ice Age that hit the northern
hemisphere a few hundred years ago.