NASA about to reveal the truth about aliens

On 12/1/2010 2:09 AM, Val Kraut wrote:


Maybe we could collect some and start a colony on Titan! I hope we're taking
precautions that Russian or Chinese agents disguised as tourists don't swipe
some for their programs. I can't help but envisioning a NASA budget hearing
where some Senator from nowhere asks "SO, Mr. Bolden, how much did it cost
the American taxpayers to find these here ARE-SEE-NIK eaten ORG-GAIN-ISMS
right here on our own home planet.

It shows the mission drift that NASA gets into by funding things that
are only distantly space related.
Years back, they had someone skiing around in the California mountains
collecting snow samples because they might give clues about Martian
organisms due to "the similarity of the conditions".
You want something like Martian conditions, send someone up skiing on
the top of Mount Everest in December, or on top of Antarctica'a Mount
Erebus in June.

Pat

On 1/12/2010 2:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.




Turned out to be just a report about bacteria being found on Earth that
can use arsenic instead of phosphate.

yawn

Sylvia.

On Dec 2, 8:24*pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 1/12/2010 2:07 AM, Anne Onime wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11...s_revelations/

Even if only bacteria were found on Mars that would be a shocking
revelation since it would increase the chances for life in the Universe
and our Galaxy markedly. Evidence of a far away civilization would be
beyond belief, and would almost certainly scare the willies out of
people. I'll bet you people will start demanding some sort of 'space
protection force' even though we would be completely powerless against
a superior intelligence.

Turned out to be just a report about bacteria being found on Earth that
can use arsenic instead of phosphate.

yawn

Sylvia.

Double yawn. I want my money back, because this grandstand show
sucks.

~ BG

Money money money money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d0Q3XkCiEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz-rsnW0wko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istE1bpoDPg

and gold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptonomicon

Alright, here's the deal. There are 47,000 tonnes of gold in the
world and about 2,300 tonnes per year is produced at mines throughout
the world.

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/gold/

Now, there are about $3.3 trillion worth of notes around. $885
billion is US notes, another $800 billion Euros, and everyone else's
currency adds up to the balance.

At $80 per gram $3.3 trillion of gold equals 41,250 metric tons - a
little less than the gold in the world.

So, we could theoretically monetize the global economy with gold again
at prices near those we see today. The problem then becomes, how to
do it?

One way would be to take diameters depending on denomination from 0.35
mm to 0.055 mm diameter tungsten wire and coat it with layer of gold
increasing it to a thickness of 0.057 diameter - modifying the surface
treatment slightly along its length to change its reflectivity and
even color - and weave this thread into a circular socklike pattern
automatically using CNC process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uvL_KUq7Pg

which can be automated to a great degree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuGs25lXrqc

to produce 'pixels' on the note surface 0.06 mm in diameter (smaller
than can be resolved by the human eye) and flatten the cylinder on to
a PET base sheet where it is heat fused together to create a 'micro-
bullion' note containing the precise amount of gold called for woven
into the face of the note - creating a note 0.115 mm thick and the
width and length called for by the size of the note - with security
thread knitting the two faces together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YgwewQY-0

and it includes a QR Code knitted into each one - incorporating a
unique ID and a public data base of all the notes made their value and
other information which would be publicly available. Finally a tough
transparent laminate is infused into the fabric - to give the bullion
long life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a33uCPOywA

people may then use their cell phones to take a picture of each note
to verify its authenticity of each piece.

people may also execute a controlled melt down of their notes to
extract the gold from them if they wish.

Thus, microbullion replaces fiat currency through a private source.

Creating these adds value to the gold of course. So, a reasonable
coinage fee may be added. So, if they're made and sold at $100 per
gram - the weight of gold in each one would be;

$1 - 10 milligram
$5 - 50 milligrams
$10 - 100 milligrams
$20 - 200 milligrams
$50 - 500 milligrams
$100 - 1 gram
$500 - 5 grams

The weight of each note is 10 grams - with varying amounts of gold in
each. The weight of each note would depend on its area. If all were
the same size - as US notes are - each would weigh 12.5 grams - and a
cm of notes would contain 80 notes and weigh a kilogram. An inch of
notes would weigh 5.6 lbs! The same as an equivalent volume of gold.
(the bulk of each note under $50 would be tungsten, those over $50
would be mostly gold)

Now, the ease of using this bullion - denominated in centigrams -
(giving new meaning to the word 'cent') when sold at $1 per cent -
would be buying $0.40 to $0.50 of gold at today's prices - but this is
better than buying paper notes worth $0.06 or less for as much as
$100.


China has 1,900 tonnes of gold and produces 200 tonnes per year.
Their economy total $8.8 trillion.

I cannot find the total number of notes in circulation (renminbi or
yuan) - so assuming the ratio of notes to economic activity is the
same as that experienced by Europe or the USA, we have $551 billion in
value. At $100 per centi-gram they would need 5,510 metric tons to
monetize ALL their currency.

Since the Chinese have segmented their fiat currency from their actual
currency, they could easily do 1,900 tonnes ($190 billion) and add $20
billion per year to the total. They could also buy gold and rival the
US as a reserve currency. Which is something the Chinese seem to want
to do.

http://indonesia.sinosteel.com/detai...lum n_no=0203

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124616719675965215.html

The USA could issue currency not backed by silver or gold. Would
this devalue and debase its currency?

That depends on the details.

If at the same time of issuance of new currency the USA increased the
reserve requirement of banks to match the issuance volume so as to
reduce the volume of money by the same amount - in order to keep the
total amount of money constant.

This achieves what the issuance of bonds achieves excepting the
issuance of government backed notes in this case bear no interest and
thus reduce the cost of government.

It also reduces the ability of banks to affect our business cycle.

Providing interest free loans to home owners and small business owners
using this new issue would stabilize our economy without war or
excessive interest and give the USA control over its business cycle.

Here's an interesting item;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-ZCj1_HHI

According to this guy, a gold standard isn't needed - and in fact has
been used as a tool by European money interests to extract value from
countries around the world, including the USA for 300 years.

Ben Franklin told Hamilton, if the US government can issue $1 in
bonds, why can't it issue $1 in notes? without interest?

That's a good question

See, the revolutionary war wasn't about taxes per se. It was about
the reason in back of the taxes London charged. Namely, the Bank of
London's need to have interest repaid by the British government which
led to raising taxes on the colonies.

So, many of the founding fathers were hesitant to establish a bank of
the USA to replace the bank they just tossed off.

Nevertheless, several experiments with central banking ensued and with
it economic ruin following the Revolutionary war as European banks
contracted credit in response to the war. Through extreme efforts
European bank interests established the first bank of the USA was
founded in 1791 in Philadelphia with a 20 year charter. 60% was owned
by European interests.

When Congress failed to renew the banks 20 year charter in 1811
European bankers who owned the majority of the First Bank of the US
and benefited greatly from it by extracting huge sums of money out of
the USA, arranged to have Britain invade the South - spawning the War
of 1812.

To pay for the war, the nation felt it had to go into debt, and the
central bankers got their way in Congress as a condition of the
loans. As a result, the second bank of the US was formed in 1816.

A general in that war who blamed those bankers for the disruption in
the first place, and a man who was against central banking and ran on
a platform opposing the banking system rose to power.

His name was Andrew Jackson and he said of central banks; You are a
den of vipers. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will
rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our
money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning

There occurred during Jackson's presidency an unsuccessful
assassination attempt on President Jackson's life. Jackson had told
his vice president, Martin Van Buren, "The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is
trying to kill me....

Jackson was the only President to pay off the national debt. He also
removed all government money from the Second Bank of the United States
and helped establish independent banks. Corporate debt also fell at
this time and companies began to expand not out of borrowings, but out
of profits which accelerated the economic expansion of the United
States while reducing the interest paid out of the USA to foreign
bankers.

The USA was becoming a good economic example and had to be stopped.

The Civil War ensued. Driven in part by slavery, but also driven by
tight credit that decimated the economy of the South while easy credit
dominated the North. This tight credit was perpetrated by Northern
banks who represented the interest of European banks who wished to
extract more of the wealth from the USA than it was getting following
Jacksonian era. This was an old trick bankers had learned in time in
Europe

Yet, while the South sought credit in Europe to pursue its dreams of
independence during the Civil War, Lincoln didn't follow suit. He
mistrusted the banking system and so he spoke to an Ohio economist to
figure out another way. He quoted Ben Franklin - a government that
issues bonds can also issue notes.

So, Lincoln issued greenbacks to pay his troops and fight his war
without putting the USA in debt. This system worked so well had
plans to expand this program following the war.

Lincoln said at the time, "The money power preys upon the nation in
time of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is
more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more
selfish than bureaucracy. I see in the near future a crisis
approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety
of our country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption
will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to
prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until
the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the republic is
destroyed.

Lincoln was shot a few days later.

Otto von Bismarck said at the time

"The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man
in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers
went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their
craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant
riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization."

The Chairman of the House Committee on Appropriations, James Garfield
agreed with Lincoln's contention that the USA should not renew a
central bank and that the USA should print money for itself rather
than issue bonds that bore interest.

President Garfield when he became President of the US, openly declared
that whoever controls the supply of currency would control the
business and activities of all the people. He wanted to expand
Lincoln's greenbacks.

After only four months in office, President Garfield was shot at a
railroad station on July 2, 1881.

William McKinley was elected President in 1896 and was deeply involved
in re-shaping the monetary system to create continuing prosperity in
the USA and overcome the tight credit policies that decimated the
nation following the Civil War. McKinley signed the Gold Standard Act
of 1900. In 1900 McKinley also challenged New York Banking control of
the railroads by pursuing Northern Securities Company in Federal
Court. In 1901 McKinley was shot while attending an exhibition.

In 1908 legislation was introduced to create the Federal Reserve
system - where the US government pays a private bank interest to issue
Federal Reserve Notes.

As was the case in all European nations that had this arrangement, the
income tax was introduced in 1909 in conjunction with a central
banking system and both were supported by President Taft at that
time. After all, what good was charging interest to a government
that had no ability to repay? Both go hand in hand.

After the die was cast in 1909, world war one ensued. Which plunged
all the combatants deeply into debt. The Sixteenth Amendment was
ratified after the war to pay for the war.

War and threat of war since that time has only increased our debts.

Louis T. McFadden was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back
in the 1930s. Pointing out that monetary issues shouldn’t be
partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt
administrations.

In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House
pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:

Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt
institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve
Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a
Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and
he people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national
debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board
and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country
enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil
institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United
States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our
Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law
by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices
of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States
Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They
are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United
States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers;
foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory
money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those
who would cut a man’s throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there
are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our
legislation; and there are those who maintain an international
propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into
the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up
their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of
crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and
disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who came here from
Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our
American institutions.

President John F. Kennedy planned to exterminate US reliance on the
private Federal Reserve System. In 1963 he signed Executive Orders
EO-11.110, returning to the government the responsibility to print
money, taking that privilege away from the Federal Reserve System

In November 1963 President John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

After his election in 1975 Congressman Larry P. McDonald spearheaded
efforts to expose the hidden holdings and intentions of the
international money interests. His efforts ended on August 31, 1983,
when he was killed when Korean Airlines 007 was accidentally shot down
in Soviet airspace.

* * *

MORE DETAIL ABOUT JFK

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal
Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest.
On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No.
11.110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue
currency, without going through the Federal Reserve.

Mr. Kennedy’s order gave the Treasury the power “to issue silver
certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver
dollars in the Treasury.” This meant that for every ounce of silver in
the U.S. Treasury’s vault, the government could introduce new money
into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S.
notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these
silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have
eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the
silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes
are not backed by anything.

Executive Order 11.110 could have prevented the national debt from
reaching its current level, because it would have given the government
the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and
being charged interest in order to create the new money.

Executive Order 11.110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own
money backed by silver.

After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more
silver certificates were issued.

Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an
Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized
it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created
since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order
11.110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level.

Mr. Kennedy challenged the two most successful vehicles that have ever
been used to drive up debt – war and the creation of money by a
privately-owned central bank.

His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive
Order 11.110 severely cut into the profits and control of the European
banking establishment.

As America’s debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges
around the world that will further increase America’s debt, one is
forced to ask, will President Obama have the courage to consider
Executive Order 11.110 ?

* * * *

Executive Order 11.110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289
AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING
THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of
the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as
amended, is hereby further amended-

By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph
(j):
_(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section
43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue
silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard
silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any
outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such
silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and
subsidiary silver currency for their redemption
and –

By revoking sub-paragraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act
done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had
or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this
Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as
if said amendments had not been made.

John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963.

* * * *

Abraham Lincoln’s Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document
23.)

Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of
money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national
Government.

Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by
circulation.

Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The
wages of men should be recognized in the structure of and in the
social order as more important than the wages of money.

No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes
the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of
regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour
will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be
facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.
The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to
permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency
convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the
People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed,
and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be
developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency
or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come
into use.

The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards
higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government.
Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit
through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of
a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be
properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from
circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit,
and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and
credit of the Nation.

Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank
deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money
through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy.

Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and
credit as money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and
credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should
not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental
work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and
circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending
power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The
privilege of creating and issuing money is not only the supreme
prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative
opportunity.

By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform
medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of
interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public
enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress,
and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical
administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency
as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and
become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the
money power.

Abraham Lincoln, The White House, 1865

* * * *

The USA could issue currency not backed by silver. Would this
devalue and debase its currency? Not if at the same time of issuance
the USA increased the reserve requirement of banks to match the
issuance volume in order to keep the total amount of money
constant.

This achieves what the issuance of bonds achieves excepting the
issuance of government backed notes in this case bear no interest and
thus reduce the cost of government.

Providing interest free loans to home owners and small business owners
using this new issue would stabilize our economy without war or
excessive interest and give the USA control over its business cycle.

Why not back some bills with chromite sand? Others with mercury
besides the
ever so common place silver and gold. And while were at it how
about garnet backed bills? Or petroleum based bills? Though I
wouldn't
suppose, bills should be backed by gravel though it might make heist
a bit hard.

Just my plan to make placer mining more
profitable ;-)...................Trig

On Dec 21, 6:41*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:
The USA could issue currency not backed by silver or gold. * Would
this devalue and debase its currency?

The USA not only *could* do that, but it *HAS BEEN* doing that for a
good half a century or so now.

Not exactly.


Prior to 1971 the Federal Reserve Notes which were USA's currency, was
redeemable for gold at $35 per troy ounce. Nixon ended that when
there was a run on US gold supply.

After the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 the USA ceded to the Federal
Reserve, a private company with sole right to print money - think of
an insurance company that has a right to sell insurance - but not
unlicensed companies. Federal Reserves notes are printed in response
to the Federal government selling the Reserve bonds, which bear
interest or to demands for cash created b Reserve banks making loans
against a fraction of their deposits.

The USA issues bonds to the Federal Reserve or private individuals
qualify for loans and the Reserve prints currency. The bonds and
loans bear interest payable to the bond buyers and debtors. As a
result, every dollar created by the Reserve comes at the cost of
debt. Banks eventually deposit this money in bank accounts, and
through the magic of fractional banking, banks create more money by
loaning out even more money. By adjusting interest rates and loan
conditions money is created or destroyed - by the banks.

There is another way.

The USA may print money directly without issuing a bond. Lincoln did
this during the Civil War. Kennedy did this with Executive Order
11.110 Obama has the right today to issue currency as a result of
this Executive Order which still stands. This is a way out of our
mess. For the US Government to print money and increase reserve
requirements so as not to create inflation. Then we can recover
control of our economy from foreign interests.

Prior to the Civil War Jackson - who felt it his duty to end the
tenure of the second bank of the United States - which he blamed for
the War of 1812 - paid off the debt the US owed to the bank and
removed all deposits from it. Jackson's greatest achievement he felt
was that he killed this bank.

Prior to the Civil War there was the War of 1812. Many people at the
time, Jackson included, felt that the war was started because Congress
failed to renew the license of the First Bank of the United States in
1811, which operated pretty much as the Fed does today and caused just
about as much trouble to the US economy.

In response, European bank interests funded the British invasion of
Louisiana as a precondition to funding other military adventures the
British were involved in at that time.

Many felt at the time of the Civil War that the war between North and
South was caused by European intervention in US affairs. European
banking interests made low interest loans to the North, expanding
their economy, while raising interest and contracting the money supply
in the South. As the economic tension rose between the two regions,
European interests funded Confederate revolutionaries who supported
open war with the North.

This fact was made clear from Lincoln's speeches of that time;

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creat...hes/cooper.htm

Lincoln didn't want to end slavery at the cost of Union, he valued
Union over all else.

After the war, Lincoln, like Jackson before him, didn't trust the
European bankers. As a result, he sought to expand the issuance of
greenbacks rather than rely on banking houses for money to expand the
US economy.

This many felt at the time was the cause of his assassination, which
is reflected in the statements of Otto von Bismark at the time who
said of Lincoln; "The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom.
There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots
and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign
bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely
control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically
corrupt civilization."

James Garfield also had great suspicion of debts and banks as Chairman
of the House Appropriations Committee. As a result, he wanted to
expand Lincoln's program of direct issuance of notes. Garfield was
shot only days after a speech where he outlined this plan.

William McKinley felt that following the development of gold mines in
California and Alaska, that the USA had sufficient gold of its own to
create a gold backed US currency - free of European banking
influence. A few days after he asked a lawsuit against gold
manipulators in New York to be brought against gold buyers so that
Americans could keep their hands on their own gold, he was shot.

The ability of bankers to manipulate currency levels by changing loan
conditions against reserves that are only a tiny fraction of their
total obligations were used to create panics and stampede Congresses
and Parliaments throughout the world. The revolutionary war was
funded in part by French bankers who put both the Revolutionaries and
the British Crown into debt. They pushed through the early Congress a
Central Bank, which decimated the economy of the early USA. Not worth
a Continental was a frequently heard phrase. This caused people to
distrust European controlled central banks. Which led to its demise
in 1811. The War of 1812 was the result. In 1913 the USA created the
Federal Reserve system in response to a series of engineered
expansions and collapses following the death of McKinley. Despite the
excesses of the past politicians and the public were told, the new
century needed a new bank to deal with new technology. So, Congress
passed the 16th Amendment after earlier attempts were routed by the
Supreme Court in 1908 along with a new central bank, whose supporters
didn't want to call a bank, because of its past association with
failure - so it was the Federal Reserve.

With a means to extract wealth from the USA through interest and a way
to be assured of collecting it with taxes, banks then quickly moved to
plunge Europe into war to drive up debts for all concerned.

Congress and President Wilson who supported the earlier Federal
Reserve efforts realized they were hoodwinked.

Wilson said of the Federal Reserve, "I am a most unhappy man. I have
unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled
by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The
growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the
hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of
the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the
civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a
government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a
government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant
men."

In 1913, Congressman Charles August Lindbergh Sr. (father of the famed
aviator) wrote:. Banking, Currency, and the Money Trust, and in 1917
he wrote "Why is Your Country at War?," attributing high finance as
America's involvement in World War I.

In June of 1963 President John Kennedy signed Executive Order 11.110
which re-authorized $4.3 billion of greenbacks. With the stroke of a
pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of
New York out of business. If enough of these certificates were to come
into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal
Reserve notes and saved the government tremendous interest. As
Kennedy sought ways to expand this program while reducing US
involvement in Asia, Kennedy was assassinated.


The USA could issue currency not backed by silver.

It not only *could*, but it *HAS BEEN* doing so for over a century
now.

The last silver certificate was taken out of circulation in the 1990s.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truthwho believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson

On Dec 21, 8:23*pm, |"
wrote:
Why not back some bills with chromite sand? Others with mercury
besides the
ever so common place silver and gold.

Because mercury is poisonous and silver and gold are not.

And while were at it how
about garnet backed bills? *

Garnet occurs in too great an abundance and is easily faked.

Or petroleum based bills?

Petroleum doesn't hold its value and there's too much of it. Though
proved reserves have been floated as a means for backing Arabian
currency for many years now.

Though I
wouldn't
suppose, bills should be backed by gravel though it might make heist
a bit hard.

There is way too much gravel in the world to make this workable.
Although the Yap dollar comes close to this vision.

http://www.teachers.cr.k12.de.us/~galgano/yapmoney.htm

Just my plan to make placer mining more
profitable ;-)...................Trig

The split tally was a technique which became common in medieval
Europe, which was constantly short of money (coins) and predominantly
illiterate, in order to record bilateral exchange and debts.

A Hazelwood stick was marked with a system of notches and then split
lengthwise.

The two halves both record the same notches and each party to the
transaction received one half of the marked stick as proof.

Later this technique was refined in various ways and became virtually
tamper proof.

One of the refinements was to make the two halves of the stick of
different lengths. The longer part was called stock and was given to
the party which had advanced money or (other items) to the receiver.
The shorter portion of the stick was called foil and was given to the
party which had received the funds/goods.

Using this technique each of the parties had an identifiable and
tamper-proof record of the transaction.

The split tally was accepted as legal proof in medieval courts and the
Napoleonic Code (1804) still makes reference to the tally stick in
Article 1333. Along the Danube and in Switzerland the tally was still
used in the 20th Century in rural economies.

We could do the same thing with a little more sophistication as an
iPhone or Android App today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=istE1bpoDPg

Here is an updated history of the USA as outlined by Caroll Quiqley -
historian at Georgetown Univerisity - and mentor to William Clinton,
President of the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

Following the Revolutionary War the US Congress issues currency, the
Continental. The Congress taxes their use at a rate that allows them
to be retired in 20 years as the quite successful Colonial Scrip was
used prior to the Revolution. The new nation refused to rely on
foreign debt to fund its operation. This was the result of many
founders blaming the policies of the Central Banks of Europe for the
war in the first place. In response to the issue of this scrip those
same European banking interests pay to counterfeit Continentals and
pay to have them circulated throughout the new Republic. The
resulting efforts reduce the value of the Continentals to 1/40th their
face value in a few years. The ensuing hyperinflation is used to
promote the idea a central bank is needed in the USA. So the Bank of
North America is formed is installed in 1781 that makes available
credit to back a new issue of currency. The way it worked is that
instead of issuing currency directly, the Congress issues bonds which
bear interest to the bank, which then circulates currency in response
to demand. due to "alarming foreign influence and fictitious credit,"
favoritism to foreigners and unfair competition against less corrupt
state banks issuing their own notes, such that Pennsylvania's
legislature repealed its charter to operate within the Commonwealth in
1785. In response European bank made credit tight which created an
economic downturn. This was exploited in newspapers owned by those
banks to create a demand that something be done. Congress was bribed,
and despite severe misgivings by people like Thomas Jefferson, the USA
once again experimented with a central bank. In 1791 a 20 year
charter was issued to the First Bank of the United States. This bank
operated much the same way as the Bank of North America. Following a
brief period of easy credit and low interest, which led to an economic
boom, there was a period of high interest and money transfer
overseas. By 1811 when the charter was scheduled for renewal, the
First Bank of the USA lost its charter. As a result, the same banking
interests made credit given to Britain contingent on them organizing
an invasion of the United States. So, a few months later the War of
1812 followed. Following the war and the debt which surrounded it,
tight money again plunged the nation into economic turmoil. The same
voices that supported the creation of a central bank spoke again.
After a five-year interval, the federal government chartered the First
Bank's successor, the Second Bank of the United States (1816–1836). It
was basically a copy of the First Bank, with branches across the
country. Andrew Jackson, who was a hero of the War of 1812, became
president in 1828. Jackson denounced the bank as an engine of
corruption. His destruction of the bank was a major political issue in
the 1830s and shaped the Second Party System, as Democrats in the
states opposed banks and Whigs supported them. Jackson fired
thousands of government workers who supported the bank, refused to do
business with the bank, and was the only President to pay off all US
debts to the bank. When the banks charter ran out in 1836 he
successfully campaigned against its re-chartering. At that time there
was an attempt on Jackson's life by the same banking interests who
supported the bank. After 1836 only state-chartered banks existed.
They could issue bank notes against specie (gold and silver coins) and
the states regulated their own reserve requirements, interest rates
for loans and deposits, the necessary capital ratio. The Michigan Act
(1837) allowed the automatic chartering of banks that would fulfill
its requirements without special consent of the state legislature.
Banks issued notes to support their credit to corporations and
individuals creating money as it was needed. By 1797, there were 24
chartered banks in the U.S., while with the beginning of the Free
Banking Era (1837), there were 712. Deposit insurance companies
arose to secure deposits naturally in the market and during this
period the USA free of the manipulations of foreign banking interests
saw the largest increase in its economic fortunes of any nation during
this period. The Central European banks had to do something to end
this 'good example' which the Europeans might follow and throw of the
yoke of central banks in Europe. As a result, those banks arranged to
create a large economic disparity in the 1840s between North and South
by issuing additional credit to the North through banks they
controlled in New York, while disallowing credit in the South, so the
South could not participate fully in the economic expansion. Northern
press controlled by European banks created controversy around the
institution of slavery and political groups were funded to create
division between North and South on this issue. By the 1860s this
became the central political issue in the USA. They backed Lincoln in
the North and Jefferson Davis in the South. The European bankers
through France also provided easy credit for the South's military
expenditures. There ensued a Civil War. The European banks supported
the South and withdrew all credit from the North at the outset of
hostilities - causing a reversal of economic fortunes for both sides.
When European lenders quoted 30% interest to Lincoln, he went back to
Washington without obtaining any loans. He asked what might be done
and was told the Constitution allowed the US to issue its own
currency. So, that's what he did. The National Banking Act of 1863,
besides providing loans in the Civil War effort of the Union included
provisions:

* To create a system of national banks. The office of Comptroller
of the Currency was created to supervise these banks.
* To create a uniform national currency.
* To finance the war. by issuing notes directly from the United
States (Greenbacks), and Treasury bonds through the National banks.

After the Civil War Lincoln sought to expand this program of direct
creation of currency without the paying of interest. Lincoln like
Jackson, had several attempts made on his life after. This time, the
bankers succeeded. Otto von Bismark lamented the success of the
bankers in mourning Lincoln's death.

To promote the use of The government imposed a 10% tax on state bank
bills, forcing most banks to convert to national banks. By 1865, there
were already 1,500 national banks. In 1870, 1,638 national banks stood
against only 325 state banks.

Economic growth after the war boomed. European banks invested heavily
in key industries to take profits out of this growth directly. They
also sought to manipulate sectional differences where they could to
create economic panics and then followed up those panics by carefully
crafted political programs to promote the idea that the home grown
system of banking was inefficient while reliance on a more stable
European Central bank model backed by European currency would end
these sorts of panics. European banking interests were also not above
bribing officials to get their way. In 1880 House Speaker and
Chairman of the House Ways and Means took office as President. He
strongly supported the expansion of direct issuance of notes by the
USA to create debt free money in the USA. He was assassinated in
1881.

The tax led in the 1880s and 1890s to the creation and adoption of
checking accounts so in this way banks could continue to issue note
like instruments while avoiding the tax. By the 1890s, 90% of the
money supply was in checking accounts. State banking had made a
comeback.

The California Gold Rush of 1848 combined with the Alaska gold rush in
1898 created the means by which the USA had enough gold and silver of
its own to back its currency with gold - challenging European gold
holdings. In his 1900 re-election campaign President McKinley sought
to have a gold backed currency, using US gold. In order to stop
manipulation of the gold market and the extraction of US gold to
European hands, he supported a tariff, and when that failed to stop
the wholesale transfer of gold through manipulation, caused charges to
be brought against both the European and New York banks which
participated in the transfer. In 1901 McKinley was shot. The lawsuit
failed to produce the desired result. Much of the gold found in
California and Alaska, made its way to European banks who promptly
used it as credit to back loans 10x greater in the USA. These loans
were then manipulated to create a panic in the early 1900s which
resulted in the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and the
ratification of the 16th Amendment also in 1913. Lacking gold, the US
government pledged the labor of the American people to secure the
debts of the United States.

In just 20 years, the US paid for its century of independence from
European banks. By 1933 the Federal Reserve had bankrupted the United
States and the Federal Reserve sued the country for bankruptcy.
Roosevelt was forced to appropriate all the remaining gold owned by
the citizens of the United States and pledged it to the Federal
Reserve - holding it in Fort Knox - as part of the Emergency Bank
Act. Roosevelt also supported the creation of a Social Security
system which passed in 1938. The savings of all people of the USA are
pledged to the Federal Reserve along with gold and tax receipts to
secure continued credit from the Federal Reserve under this emergency
legislation which continues to this day.

After securing their ability to capture the income savings and gold of
the people of the United States, these same banking groups funded the
Communists in Russia along with the Facists in Germany and Italy, and
the Japanese invasion of Manchuria - which led eventually to World War
2 and US involvement. This followed the same sort of approach that
these same banking houses used to indebt the people of Europe for the
previous 300 years. Create turmoil that leads to war, and in the heat
of war, run up the debt of the combatants beyond all reason. The
media empires that these banks accumulated in the USA sold War as a
way to end the depression they had created and engineered.

At the end of the war, the development of nuclear weapons and the
conversion of allies - US and USSR - during the war into enemies -
created a new round of demand for debt. To obtain this debt extending
the emergency credit 14 years earlier, the present National Security
Acts passed by the Truman were created to increase the power of the
Federal government to tap into the wealth of the people and
corporations of the United States.

The money spent by the United States made the United States the most
advanced military power in the world. Meanwhile, policies of the
newly created IMF removed from the United States their ability to
manufacture products it relies on. As a result, the US has the
instruments to maintain world peace, but does not have the means to
secure its own survival in the world. We are therefore easy prey to
those who would control us for their ends.

Meanwhile, throughout the 1950s and 60s European banks made
development loans to third world countries who had rich resources.
Leaders of those nations were bribed to steal the money and not
develop their nations. They were allowed to get away with this as
long as they cooperated with the central banks of Europe to extract
the mineral wealth of their countries - in payment for the debts that
would not be repaid through development, but through theft. In this
way these banks could deny the people of each country the use of those
resources while making use of it themselves at discount prices.

These banks continued their control of the media inculcating
generations of Americans and others. Taking real social issues and
spinning them for their own purposes. The promotion of equality for
women through people like Gloria Steinam, was paid for by the US
Central Intelligence Agency, because it fit the goals of the bankers
who now controlled many aspects of the government of the United States
(and asked for the creation of the CIA in the first place). Absolute
equality of women achieved two major goals of these bankers

1) It doubled the amount of labor they could make use of;

2) It reduced the impact of the family on childhood development
ceding that to institutions who could then shape the development of
children more to their liking.

When Eisenhower tried to place limits Cold War spending and help
secure our national economy from further ruin, as evidenced by his
Military Industrial Complex speech when leaving ofiice in 1960.
Eisenhower was pressured by the CIA to enter Vietnam in support of the
French. His worry over costs in combination with missile expense
caused him to do far less than the CIA wanted.

Sputnik was funded in Russia, in 1957 and Kennedy was funded in the
USA as a successor to Eisenhower was groomed by pointing out that
Sputnik was evidence of the USA falling behind Russia. The idea of a
Missile Gap was sold to the American people. JFK was elected and a
new source of spending and debt was created for the nation - the
National Space program grew dramatically with the election of JFK.
JFK seemed to be the ideal candidate for the bankers. His father was
a liquor importer at a time when liquor was illegal in the USA. JFK
was considered a playboy who was easily controlled. Averell Harriman
who represented central banking interests was appointed to work with
JFK at the White House. JFK could be easily controlled. The Space
Program along with the expansion of the War in Vietnam and the
expansion of the US Missile Defense system along with expansion of
social services - would continue to drive up debt of the USA to these
European bankers. Kennedy saw this and made it clear that he would
not allow US troops to enter Vietnam as a main force, nor would he
allow the unlimited expansion of Nuclear Deterrence, seeking a
cooperative link with USSR. He further sought to pay for Space
Exploration and social programs by the direct issuance of notes - just
as Lincoln had done during the Civil War. He felt that like Jackson,
the US could issue notes without debt and use them to pay off its debt
while increasing reserve requirements of the banks that operated and
did business with the USA to not inflate the currency thus created.
This is reflected in EO 11.1110 in June of 1963 where $4.3 billion in
notes were issued directly by the USA - as permitted by the
Constitution.

When it was clear after the assassination of Diem in Vietnam in early
Nov 1963 that Kennedy would not use this as a pretext to invade the
country, he himself was assassinated later that same month. LBJ took
office and reversed these decisions.

On Dec 24, 11:41*pm, William Mook wrote:
Here is an updated history of the USA as outlined by Caroll Quiqley -
historian at Georgetown Univerisity - and mentor to William Clinton,
President of the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley

Following the Revolutionary War the US Congress issues currency, the
Continental. *The Congress taxes their use at a rate that allows them
to be retired in 20 years as the quite successful Colonial Scrip was
used prior to the Revolution. The new nation refused to rely on
foreign debt to fund its operation. *This was the result of many
founders blaming the policies of the Central Banks of Europe for the
war in the first place. *In response to the issue of this scrip those
same European banking interests pay to counterfeit Continentals and
pay to have them circulated throughout the new Republic. *The
resulting efforts reduce the value of the Continentals to 1/40th their
face value in a few years. *The ensuing hyperinflation is used to
promote the idea a central bank is needed in the USA. *So the Bank of
North America is formed is installed in 1781 that makes available
credit to back a new issue of currency. *The way it worked is that
instead of issuing currency directly, the Congress issues bonds which
bear interest to the bank, which then circulates currency in response
to demand. *due to "alarming foreign influence and fictitious credit,"
favoritism to foreigners and unfair competition against less corrupt
state banks issuing their own notes, such that Pennsylvania's
legislature repealed its charter to operate within the Commonwealth in
1785. *In response European bank made credit tight which created an
economic downturn. *This was exploited in newspapers owned by those
banks to create a demand that something be done. *Congress was bribed,
and despite severe misgivings by people like Thomas Jefferson, the USA
once again experimented with a central bank. *In 1791 a 20 year
charter was issued to the First Bank of the United States. This bank
operated much the same way as the Bank of North America. *Following a
brief period of easy credit and low interest, which led to an economic
boom, there was a period of high interest and money transfer
overseas. *By 1811 when the charter was scheduled for renewal, the
First Bank of the USA lost its charter. *As a result, the same banking
interests made credit given to Britain contingent on them organizing
an invasion of the United States. *So, a few months later the War of
1812 followed. *Following the war and the debt which surrounded it,
tight money again plunged the nation into economic turmoil. *The same
voices that supported the creation of a central bank spoke again.
After a five-year interval, the federal government chartered the First
Bank's successor, the Second Bank of the United States (1816–1836). It
was basically a copy of the First Bank, with branches across the
country. Andrew Jackson, who was a hero of the War of 1812, became
president in 1828. *Jackson denounced the bank as an engine of
corruption. His destruction of the bank was a major political issue in
the 1830s and shaped the Second Party System, as Democrats in the
states opposed banks and Whigs supported them. *Jackson fired
thousands of government workers who supported the bank, refused to do
business with the bank, and was the only President to pay off all US
debts to the bank. *When the banks charter ran out in 1836 he
successfully campaigned against its re-chartering. *At that time there
was an attempt on Jackson's life by the same banking interests who
supported the bank. After 1836 only state-chartered banks existed.
They could issue bank notes against specie (gold and silver coins) and
the states regulated their own reserve requirements, interest rates
for loans and deposits, the necessary capital ratio. The Michigan Act
(1837) allowed the automatic chartering of banks that would fulfill
its requirements without special consent of the state legislature.
Banks issued notes to support their credit to corporations and
individuals creating money as it was needed. By 1797, there were 24
chartered banks in the U.S., while with the beginning of the Free
Banking Era (1837), there were 712. * Deposit insurance companies
arose to secure deposits naturally in the market and during this
period the USA free of the manipulations of foreign banking interests
saw the largest increase in its economic fortunes of any nation during
this period. *The Central European banks had to do something to end
this 'good example' which the Europeans might follow and throw of the
yoke of central banks in Europe. *As a result, those banks arranged to
create a large economic disparity in the 1840s between North and South
by issuing additional credit to the North through banks they
controlled in New York, while disallowing credit in the South, so the
South could not participate fully in the economic expansion. *Northern
press controlled by European banks created controversy around the
institution of slavery and political groups were funded to create
division between North and South on this issue. *By the 1860s this
became the central political issue in the USA. *They backed Lincoln in
the North and Jefferson Davis in the South. *The European bankers
through France also provided easy credit for the South's military
expenditures. *There ensued a Civil War. *The European banks supported
the South and withdrew all credit from the North at the outset of
hostilities - causing a reversal of economic fortunes for both sides.
When European lenders quoted 30% interest to Lincoln, he went back to
Washington without obtaining any loans. *He asked what might be done
and was told the Constitution allowed the US to issue its own
currency. *So, that's what he did. *The National Banking Act of 1863,
besides providing loans in the Civil War effort of the Union included
provisions:

* * * To create a system of national banks. The office of Comptroller
of the Currency was created to supervise these banks.
* * * To create a uniform national currency.
* * * To finance the war. by issuing notes directly from the United
States (Greenbacks), and Treasury bonds through the National banks.

After the Civil War Lincoln sought to expand this program of direct
creation of currency without the paying of interest. *Lincoln like
Jackson, had several attempts made on his life after. *This time, the
bankers succeeded. *Otto von Bismark lamented the success of the
bankers in mourning Lincoln's death.

To promote the use of The government imposed a 10% tax on state bank
bills, forcing most banks to convert to national banks. By 1865, there
were already 1,500 national banks. In 1870, 1,638 national banks stood
against only 325 state banks.

Economic growth after the war boomed. *European banks invested heavily
in key industries to take profits out of this growth directly. *They
also sought to manipulate sectional differences where they could to
create economic panics and then followed up those panics by carefully
crafted political programs to promote the idea that the home grown
system of banking was inefficient while reliance on a more stable
European Central bank model backed by European currency would end
these sorts of panics. *European banking interests were also not above
bribing officials to get their way. *In 1880 House Speaker and
Chairman of the House Ways and Means took office as President. *He
strongly supported the expansion of direct issuance of notes by the
USA to create debt free money in the USA. *He was assassinated in
1881.

The tax led in the 1880s and 1890s to the creation and adoption of
checking accounts so in this way banks could continue to issue note
like instruments while avoiding the tax. By the 1890s, 90% of the
money supply was in checking accounts. State banking had made a
comeback.

The California Gold Rush of 1848 combined with the Alaska gold rush in
1898 created the means by which the USA had enough gold and silver of
its own to back its currency with gold - challenging European gold
holdings. *In his 1900 re-election campaign President McKinley sought
to have a gold backed currency, using US gold. *In order to stop
manipulation of the gold market and the extraction of US gold to
European hands, he supported a tariff, and when that failed to stop
the wholesale transfer of gold through manipulation, caused charges to
be brought against both the European and New York banks which
participated in the transfer. *In 1901 McKinley was shot. *The lawsuit
failed to produce the desired result. *Much of the gold found in
California and Alaska, made its way to European banks who promptly
used it as credit to back loans 10x greater in the USA. *These loans
were then manipulated to create a panic in the early 1900s which
resulted in the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and the
ratification of the 16th Amendment also in 1913. *Lacking gold, the US
government pledged the labor of the American people to secure the
debts of the United States.

In just 20 years, the US paid for its century of independence from
European banks. *By 1933 the Federal Reserve had bankrupted the United
States and the Federal Reserve sued the country for bankruptcy.
Roosevelt was forced to appropriate all the remaining gold owned by
the citizens of the United States and pledged it to the Federal
Reserve - holding it in Fort Knox - as part of the Emergency Bank
Act. * Roosevelt also supported the creation of a Social Security
system which passed in 1938. *The savings of all people of the USA are
pledged to the Federal Reserve along with gold and tax receipts to
secure continued credit from the Federal Reserve under this emergency
legislation which continues to this day.

After securing their ability to capture the income savings and gold of
the people of the United States, these same banking groups funded the
Communists in Russia along with the Facists in Germany and Italy, and
the Japanese invasion of Manchuria - which led eventually to World War
2 and US involvement. *This followed the same sort of approach that
these same banking houses used to indebt the people of Europe for the
previous 300 years. *Create turmoil that leads to war, and in the heat
of war, run up the debt of the combatants beyond all reason. *The
media empires that these banks accumulated in the USA sold War as a
way to end the depression they had created and engineered.

At the end of the war, the development of nuclear weapons and the
conversion of allies - US and USSR - during the war into enemies -
created a new round of demand for debt. *To obtain this debt extending
the emergency credit 14 years earlier, the present National Security
Acts passed by the Truman were created to increase the power of the
Federal government to tap into the wealth of the people and
corporations of the United States.

The money spent by the United States made the United States the most
advanced military power in the world. *Meanwhile, policies of the
newly created IMF removed from the United States their ability to
manufacture products it relies on. *As a result, the US has the
instruments to maintain world peace, but does not have the means to
secure its own survival in the world. *We are therefore easy prey to
those who would control us for their ends.

Meanwhile, throughout the 1950s and 60s European banks made
development loans to third world countries who had rich resources.
Leaders of those nations were bribed to steal the money and not
develop their nations. *They were allowed to get away with this as
long as they cooperated with the central banks of Europe to extract
the mineral wealth of their countries - in payment for the debts that
would not be repaid through development, but through theft. *In this
way these banks could deny the people of each country the use of those
resources while making use of it themselves at discount prices.

These banks continued their control of the media inculcating
generations of Americans and others. *Taking real social issues and
spinning them for their own purposes. The promotion of equality for
women through people like Gloria Steinam, was paid for by the US
Central Intelligence Agency, because it fit the goals of the bankers
who now controlled many aspects of the government of the United States
(and asked for the creation of the CIA in the first place). * Absolute
equality of women achieved two major goals of these bankers

*1) It doubled the amount of labor they could make use of;

*2) It reduced the impact of the family on childhood development
ceding that to institutions who could then shape the development of
children more to their liking.

When Eisenhower tried to place limits Cold War spending and help
secure our national economy from further ruin, as evidenced by his
Military Industrial Complex speech when leaving ofiice in 1960.
Eisenhower was pressured by the CIA to enter Vietnam in support of the
French. *His worry over costs in combination with missile expense
caused him to do far less than the CIA wanted.

Sputnik was funded in Russia, in 1957 and Kennedy was funded in the
USA as a successor to Eisenhower was groomed by pointing out that
Sputnik was evidence of the USA falling behind Russia. *The idea of a
Missile Gap was sold to the American people. *JFK was elected and a
new source of spending and debt was created for the nation - the
National Space program grew dramatically with the *election of JFK.
JFK seemed to be the ideal candidate for the bankers. *His father was
a liquor importer at a time when liquor was illegal in the USA. *JFK
was considered a playboy who was easily controlled. *Averell Harriman
who represented central banking interests was appointed to work with
JFK at the White House. *JFK could be easily controlled. *The Space
Program along with the expansion of the War in Vietnam and the
expansion of the US Missile Defense system along with expansion of
social services - would continue to drive up debt of the USA to these
European bankers. *Kennedy saw this and made it clear that he would
not allow US troops to enter Vietnam as a main force, nor would he
allow the unlimited expansion of Nuclear Deterrence, seeking a
cooperative link with USSR. *He further sought to pay for Space
Exploration and social programs by the direct issuance of notes - just
as Lincoln had done during the Civil War. *He felt that like Jackson,
the US could issue notes without debt and use them to pay off its debt
while increasing reserve requirements of the banks that operated and
did business with the USA to not inflate the currency thus created.
This is reflected in EO 11.1110 in June of 1963 where $4.3 billion in
notes were issued directly by the USA - as permitted by the
Constitution.

When it was clear after the assassination of Diem in Vietnam in early
Nov 1963 that Kennedy would not use this as a pretext to invade the
country, he himself was assassinated later that same month. *LBJ took
office and reversed these decisions.

So, obviously you would have done things a little differently, but
then the whole truth and nothing but the truth about American history
is anything but objective, mostly because selective evidence is always
excluded whenever necessary in order to make us look as though our
guys and gals did absolutely nothing wrong or took unnecessary risks
that had any negative consequences. Obviously 911 could have been
entirely prevented as of a decade before, just like our SEC and Ponzi
Madoff fiasco could have been easily prevented) but then you still
can't conceive of ever revising the public record of history, so
chances are actually pretty good that we'll be getting ourselves deep
into WW3 and having pretty much the same clueless knowledge of
anything that got us into the WW3 mess.

In the mean time, what we need is piles of surplus clean energy that's
almost too cheap to meter, plus one hell of a robust national power
grid that's at least mother nature bullet proof, and supposedly you
got that one plus a whole lot more nailed for us, but only as long as
we can manage to survive for at least another century because, it
seems nothing of Mook energy or other Mook technological advancements
is going to become available or influence the global market in any
deflationary way, if ever. It seem Mook only believes in and
functions via inflation, whereas insiders (market speculators),
hoarders and GOP/Mafia types get to call all the shots.

You don't seem to like whatever most anyone else is doing, but are you
ever going to run for any public office or partake in any top level
(government, corporate or private) think tanks? (other than your own
think tank of one)

~ BG