![]() |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "George Dishman" skrev i en meddelelse ... snip Terrestrial tektites get their shapes from aerodynamic effects, no? Less Martian air, more spherical shape, yes? Less air and drag means the material might be near to weightless in flight. There has been some talk about single small marks on each spherule. Might these be due to the formation of a trapped bubble as dissolved gas is released during cooling? If the spheres has solidified a spheric shape, it could still be somewhat soft at landing and produce the more subtle imprint that that indeed gives an impression of a common biological a-spheric abnormality (.. now where was the picture...). The later sedimentary history of the spheres may well give surficial fractures. Carsten The reduced bouyancy might make it less able to breach the surface which would also be the first to cool. George |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
![]()
Ian Goddard
I'm beginning to form a personal opinion that a lot of observations may conform to a large impact of an ice-meteor, but I have no experience that applies to the early stage of such an event, but may expect such an incidence to account for volcaniclastic structuring of the solid outcrop at the Opportunity-site. I have expressed surprise that Mars was not 'dustier' (fine-grained material is expected as the endproduct of prolonged windy abrasion, imho) and has suspected a mainpart of the spheres to be the 'sink' for such products. My overall idea is, that energy-release, ice and dust should contain the constituents in a scenario that evolves large amounts of spheres in a free fall process. I'm not the best to account for the details though. I'm not a Mars or planetary specialist. Carsten "Ian Goddard" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Paul Henney" wrote: Ian, I had similar thoughts. However the size and shape distribution is unusual..all the tektites in my collection have very variable shapes. I would have expected to see some more irregular shapes from melt droplets. Right, these Martian spheres are remarkably similar in size and shape. However, dissimilarities between Mars and Earth (not to mention between different impact events) might account for the differences you observe. Consider that the paper I cited by R.D. Lorenz http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/5thMars99/pdf/6039.pdf notes dissimilarities between microtektite formation on Mars versus on Earth. For example, on Mars, impacts energetic enough to produce only 2.5-km-diameter craters may produce microtektite while 10 km craters are necessary on Earth. With more impacts producing microtektites, Lorenz predicts that microtektites "should therefore be widespread on Mars." He also observes that: "for Mars, with lower escape velocity and further from the sun, such velocities are lower than for Earth, and so spherules are larger." Spherule size is also "limited by surface tension's ability to overcome aerodynamic stress," and thus Mars' thinner atmosphere should also affect spherule formation differentially. These factors suggest that spherules on Mars may be both more abundant and structurally different than spherules on Earth. On the "berries" that have been sliced open there dosen't seem to be any zoning or indeed any kind of structure..the structure is really isotropic. Correct. In these images from Opportunity we first see some "blueberries" embedded in rock. Subsequent images show the same rock after being subject to Opportunity's Rock Abrasion Tool that reveals a cross-sectional view of the interior of the sphe http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_m034.html Ian Goddard's Journal: http://iangoddard.net/journal.htm "When we have lived any time, and have been accustomed to the uniformity of nature, we acquire a general habit, by which we always transfer the known to the unknown, and conceive the latter to resemble the former." David Hume |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
![]() "Carsten Troelsgaard" wrote in message k... Ian Goddard I'm beginning to form a personal opinion that a lot of observations may conform to a large impact of an ice-meteor, but I have no experience that applies to the early stage of such an event, but may expect such an incidence to account for volcaniclastic structuring of the solid outcrop at the Opportunity-site. I have expressed surprise that Mars was not 'dustier' (fine-grained material is expected as the endproduct of prolonged windy abrasion, imho) and has suspected a mainpart of the spheres to be the 'sink' for such products. My overall idea is, that energy-release, ice and dust should contain the constituents in a scenario that evolves large amounts of spheres in a free fall process. I'm not the best to account for the details though. I'm not a Mars or planetary specialist. Carsten Mars is very dusty. The fact that it doesn't appear to be too dusty at the two rover landing sites is not a mistake. These two sites were selected in part because they weren't very dusty. Both areas, especially at Gustev, have high incidents of dust devils, which tend to sweep a lot of the dust from the surface. |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Space Calendar - November 26, 2003 | Ron Baalke | History | 2 | November 28th 03 09:21 AM |
Space Calendar - November 26, 2003 | Ron Baalke | Astronomy Misc | 1 | November 28th 03 09:21 AM |
Space Calendar - October 24, 2003 | Ron Baalke | History | 0 | October 24th 03 04:38 PM |
Space Calendar - October 24, 2003 | Ron Baalke | Astronomy Misc | 0 | October 24th 03 04:38 PM |
Mars in opposition: One for the record books (Forwarded) | Andrew Yee | Astronomy Misc | 0 | August 3rd 03 04:56 PM |