Bye-bye Moon program, hello ISS to 2020

On Feb 13, 2:34�pm, (Craig Bingman) wrote:
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Brian Thorn wrote:

Except that, maybe one has: a vaccine for salmonella.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...a-vaccine.html

Maybe, but it is unclear to me what part of the putative vaccine development
was actually made possible by the microgravity experiments.

Just because a group did work on (A) the effect of microgravity on bacterial
virulence and the same group is (B) doing work on a vaccine does not mean that
A led to B. �

It is a bit of a stretch, based on what I know about the molecular mechanisms
of bacterial virulence, but I would love to be mistaken.
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Hey solar space power is a great wonderful idea

China can design build and launch it for a fraction of what it would
cost in the US. Elminates minimum wage OSHA and lots other costs like
social security.

So china can beam down the power and sell it to us.

While they are at it their coal to gasoline plants can sell us all the
gasoline we need too.

Why build ANYTHING IN OUR COUNTRY? while others can do it cheaper?

Heck just buy space access from china onboard their new space station.

While waiting for a berth on one of their many moon missions. We can
go as tourists.

Chinas profits can be reinvested in Mars and asteroid missions.

Wonder what china will charge to deflect a asteroid from hitting the
US?

Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the things
that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's existance, other
that fixing toilets in weightlessness, Things like new miracle drugs, new
manufacturing techniques, advances in chemistry and physics, Hell, I'd even
settle for something like "A Determination of the Effect of Weightlessness
and Low Atmospheric Pressure on the Mating Rituals of the Sub-Sahara Central
East African Tse Tse Fly While in the Presence of Atmospheric Constituents
Associated with Mid-Sized Primates with Limited Toilet Priviledges".

Answering the question: "How many Japanese astronauts does it take to
change a light bulb?":
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/20...urnt-bulbs-on/

Pat

Pat Flannery a écrit :
Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the
things that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's
existance, other that fixing toilets in weightlessness,

And what do you have against toilets moron?

You do not ****?

Making toilets work, recycling urine, and many other things
belong to the developing of a human presence in space. You
can't go to Mars or to the moon if you haven't developed a
recycling technology and water purification system. The cost
of transporting tons of water to the moon or Mars is enormous.
Without those technologies no human space travel is possible.

Note that the station has been completed only recently, construction
delayed years because of the accidents of the space shuttle.

It is now that the scientific side of the station will START.
Obviously you do not want to acknowledge that.

"jacob navia" wrote in message
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Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the things
that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's existance,
other that fixing toilets in weightlessness,


It is now that the scientific side of the station will START.

The only thing wrong with correcting a mistatement is posting another.

The scientific side has been going on for years. Please see the URL I've
posted.

It is not just starting. Far from it.


Obviously you do not want to acknowledge that.

"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message
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"jacob navia" wrote in message
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Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the things
that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's existance, other
that fixing toilets in weightlessness,


It is now that the scientific side of the station will START.

The only thing wrong with correcting a mistatement is posting another.

The scientific side has been going on for years. Please see the URL I've
posted.

It is not just starting. Far from it.


Obviously you do not want to acknowledge that.


Ya I hear it every day, and in the papers....Thank God for
the ISS science advances. Kinda odd how the former
Chief Scientist of the ISS is now out helping design
Space Solar Power satellites.
http://www.spaceenergy.com/s/TechnicalAdvisors.htm

Funny world isn't it?


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On Jan 28, 10:12*am, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
"jacob navia" wrote in message

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Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the things
that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's existance,
other that fixing toilets in weightlessness,

It is now that the scientific side of the station will START.

The only thing wrong with correcting a mistatement is posting another.

The scientific side has been going on for years. *Please see the URL I've
posted.

It is not just starting. *Far from it.

Obviously you do not want to acknowledge that.

Objective science on behalf of ice coexisting in space? (I think not)

~ BG

jacob navia wrote:
Pat Flannery a écrit :
Val Kraut wrote:

Somewhat off topic - but I would really like to see a list of the
things that have been done on the ISS to date that justify it's
existance, other that fixing toilets in weightlessness,

And what do you have against toilets moron?

I didn't write the toilet part, that was Val Kraut.


Pat

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
news
Ares-1, Ares-V, Constellation - all dead:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...,1252176.story
Possibly a heavy lift booster at some future point.
But ISS will be manned till 2020 instead of 2015.

OK, does everyone here now understand why trying
to repeat history is such a glaring mistake?

Because as time goes by, the 'landscape' changes.
It's like trying to apply the same solution to
two different problems. If the first 'solution' or goal
was CORRECT, the second one will always
....... BE WRONG!

And proportionally so!

So, predictably, the glowing success of Apollo
should immediately foreshadow a dismal failure
with "To the Moon and Mars".

Finally!

So now we can start talking about what NASA
should (could) become once the economy turns
around.

Which just might be the right amount of time for
Space Solar Power to become practical. As all the
trends like oil prices, climate change and lower
cost to orbit might be more ...aligned...by then.

Say, around the start of Obama's second term?
Plenty of time to change a lots of opinions.

Beats just talking about NASA and the latest
......climate change data....merely talking about
the weather, like some old folks home.

Imagining the best possible future is the only way
to create a worthwhile goal.


Jonathan







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On Jan 27, 4:56*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Ares-1, Ares-V, Constellation - all dead:http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...-budget27-2010...
Possibly a heavy lift booster at some future point.
But ISS will be manned till 2020 instead of 2015.

Have we got any official confirmation for this? For all we know, the
"LA Times" just interviewed a couple of janitors and called them
"anonymous".

Incidentally, since at least half the people on this newsgroup hated
the Constellation program in the first place...shouldn't we consider
this a good thing?

Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jan 27, 4:56 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Ares-1, Ares-V, Constellation - all dead:http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-a...-budget27-2010...
Possibly a heavy lift booster at some future point.
But ISS will be manned till 2020 instead of 2015.

Have we got any official confirmation for this? For all we know, the
"LA Times" just interviewed a couple of janitors and called them
"anonymous".

The story was reported in several differnt places, so it sounds like a
administration leak to lessen the surprise when the program termination
comes.


Incidentally, since at least half the people on this newsgroup hated
the Constellation program in the first place...shouldn't we consider
this a good thing?

It suits me fine, that's for sure.

Pat