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Old September 29th 09, 07:08 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Phil Bouchard wrote:

doug wrote:


This is amazing. You again demonstrate FR is numerology, you
show your incorrect gps predictions, your dark matter section
was a complete hoot with it wild leaps and unsupported
assertions. If you see any science types, they will get
a good laugh out of this.



And this comes from somebody I reiterate again:

"I wouldn't bet $5 on GR" -- Doug


Phil lies when he is shown to be a fool. It means
that phil lies a lot.
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Old September 29th 09, 07:09 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Phil Bouchard wrote:

PD wrote:

On Sep 29, 4:34 am, Phil Bouchard wrote:

It comes down to this final showdown.



Well, Phil, it seems that your promise to walk away from this
community and to seek your fortune among computer scientists and
astronomers was short-lived.



The last time I checked you were the one backstabbing your own partners
so I took the opportunity to take a break.


Well, surprise, another lie from phil.

Tell me, Phil, when you ran away from
home with your belongings in a kerchief, did you turn around and go
home within the hour?



I am farther from home than you ever been yourself for a longer time.


Another unsupported assertion from phil.

Which has no real bearing on the metrics that science uses to judge
the value of a theory, Phil, as has been explained to you. You took
that advice and sniffed. I don't know why you believe that the
scientific community will have changed its mind since the last time
you checked.



My advise was a $10,000 bet on FR against GR after a precise fudge
factor adjustment with the help of a mathematician and all I could hear
was crickets.


Phil lies again. This is getting to be a real habit for phil.
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Old September 29th 09, 07:28 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 29, 12:01*pm, Phil Bouchard wrote:
PD wrote:
On Sep 29, 4:34 am, Phil Bouchard wrote:
It comes down to this final showdown. *


Well, Phil, it seems that your promise to walk away from this
community and to seek your fortune among computer scientists and
astronomers was short-lived.


The last time I checked you were the one backstabbing your own partners


What partners? If two strangers both think you're an idiot, that
doesn't make them partners. It makes you an idiot by consensus.

so I took the opportunity to take a break.


While announcing that you were going to talk to other people.
Which I see was short-lived.
Which is what I noted.


Tell me, Phil, when you ran away from
home with your belongings in a kerchief, did you turn around and go
home within the hour?


I am farther from home than you ever been yourself for a longer time.


I don't think you have any idea what my location is, let alone my
history, Phil.
I think it's a bit risky for you to just be making stuff up, don't
you?
Kinda reflects on the rest of what you say.
Has your dad mentioned this to you before?


Which has no real bearing on the metrics that science uses to judge
the value of a theory, Phil, as has been explained to you. You took
that advice and sniffed. I don't know why you believe that the
scientific community will have changed its mind since the last time
you checked.


My advise was a $10,000 bet on FR against GR after a precise fudge
factor adjustment with the help of a mathematician and all I could hear
was crickets.


You have a lousy memory, Phil. It was me that proposed the $10,000 bet
(you suggested $5), and I told you it would be based on the scientific
evaluation of FR vs GR. You declined.
Would you like a link to the particular posts in question so you can
be directly confronted with your falsehood, or would you care to
acknowledge it yourself now, or will you just dance for a while?

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Old September 29th 09, 07:29 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 29, 12:19*pm, Phil Bouchard wrote:
doug wrote:

[...]

I am farther from home than you ever been yourself for a longer time.


Another unsupported assertion from phil.


PD lives in Texas and likely is from Texas also.


What you consider likely is almost certainly wrong, Phil, and this is
a case in point.
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Old September 29th 09, 07:49 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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PD wrote:

What partners? If two strangers both think you're an idiot, that
doesn't make them partners. It makes you an idiot by consensus.


Mr. Higgins never said I was an idiot, he just disagrees. So we're left
with you thinking I'm an idiot and me thinking you are a great cowardice
example.

While announcing that you were going to talk to other people.
Which I see was short-lived.
Which is what I noted.


I have to pay attention to what my muay thai coach tells me also.

I don't think you have any idea what my location is, let alone my
history, Phil.
I think it's a bit risky for you to just be making stuff up, don't
you?


It does not matter if you are from the Midwest or Texas because it is
still a shorter distance from mine.

Kinda reflects on the rest of what you say.
Has your dad mentioned this to you before?


You worry about the container, I worry about the contents.

You have a lousy memory, Phil. It was me that proposed the $10,000 bet
(you suggested $5), and I told you it would be based on the scientific
evaluation of FR vs GR. You declined.


The scientific evaluation process is lame because it will never happen
and I will consequently lose.

[...]
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Old September 29th 09, 09:32 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity
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Phil Bouchard wrote:

It comes down to this final showdown. FR predicts gravitational time
dilation measurements anywhere in the solar system with infinite
precision

[snip crap]

Already wrong.

--
Uncle Al
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Old September 29th 09, 10:07 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 29, 1:49*pm, Phil Bouchard wrote:
PD wrote:

What partners? If two strangers both think you're an idiot, that
doesn't make them partners. It makes you an idiot by consensus.


Mr. Higgins never said I was an idiot, he just disagrees. *So we're left
with you thinking I'm an idiot and me thinking you are a great cowardice
example.


Well, that's fine. I'm not really concerned what you think of me.


While announcing that you were going to talk to other people.
Which I see was short-lived.
Which is what I noted.


I have to pay attention to what my muay thai coach tells me also.

I don't think you have any idea what my location is, let alone my
history, Phil.
I think it's a bit risky for you to just be making stuff up, don't
you?


It does not matter if you are from the Midwest or Texas because it is
still a shorter distance from mine.


Are you SURE, Phil? What are you using for evidence?


Kinda reflects on the rest of what you say.
Has your dad mentioned this to you before?


You worry about the container, I worry about the contents.


You mean the contents you make up?


You have a lousy memory, Phil. It was me that proposed the $10,000 bet
(you suggested $5), and I told you it would be based on the scientific
evaluation of FR vs GR. You declined.


The scientific evaluation process is lame because it will never happen
and I will consequently lose.


And the fact that you will lose means that it is lame?
Anything that doesn't afford you success is lame?
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Old September 29th 09, 10:10 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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doug wrote:

[...]

So you just make random statements and you do not care if
they are true or not. That and you willing lying do not
paint a good picture of you as a person.


We all know Doug rather go for 6% chances of being right. That makes
Doug a misleading mentor for most of what he says.

[...]

The scientific evaluation process is lame because it will never happen
and I will consequently lose.


This is where your cowardice comes in.


If we relate the real poltroon by anonymity scale I think Doug wins the
grand prize hands down.
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Old September 29th 09, 10:14 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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PD wrote:

[...]

And the fact that you will lose means that it is lame?
Anything that doesn't afford you success is lame?


So we both agree FR is right since my version means success.
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Old September 29th 09, 10:26 PM posted to alt.sci.physics,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Phil Bouchard wrote:

PD wrote:


What partners? If two strangers both think you're an idiot, that
doesn't make them partners. It makes you an idiot by consensus.



Mr. Higgins never said I was an idiot, he just disagrees.


Well, you are at least ignorant of science and since you refuse
to learn, that makes you a willing fool.

So we're left
with you thinking I'm an idiot and me thinking you are a great cowardice
example.

So, telling you the truth is cowardice?

While announcing that you were going to talk to other people.
Which I see was short-lived.
Which is what I noted.



I have to pay attention to what my muay thai coach tells me also.

I don't think you have any idea what my location is, let alone my
history, Phil.
I think it's a bit risky for you to just be making stuff up, don't
you?



It does not matter if you are from the Midwest or Texas because it is
still a shorter distance from mine.


So you just make random statements and you do not care if
they are true or not. That and you willing lying do not
paint a good picture of you as a person.

Kinda reflects on the rest of what you say.
Has your dad mentioned this to you before?



You worry about the container, I worry about the contents.


Clearly not since you are still pushing FR.


You have a lousy memory, Phil. It was me that proposed the $10,000 bet
(you suggested $5), and I told you it would be based on the scientific
evaluation of FR vs GR. You declined.



The scientific evaluation process is lame because it will never happen
and I will consequently lose.


This is where your cowardice comes in.


[...]

 




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