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On Jun 2, 1:13*pm, GSS wrote:
I have been discussing related issues on these Usenet groups for the last one decade or so. Very many participants in these discussions have confirmed this viewpoint. Do you believe that current theories of Physics are based on logical foundations? Jeez. Do you get paid by the word or something? Your huge essay (which I presume is a brief summary of your book) really comes down to one central issue. Physics has been replaced by mathematics. Physics is defined as the study of phenomena. But today "advanced" physics has become synonymous with 'advanced mathematics" [in some ways due to the popular influence of Einstein]. This results in a strange affliction taking over physics. It is the widespread belief that mathematical models are more real than reality! Now mathematics is an abstract human construct with no conditions other than self-consistency. No other limitations exist. Logic, causality, agreement with experiment are not part of it. Hence once mathematics is taken as the ultimate test, it opens the door to all manner of "insane" and non-physical dogma. We find the blind resurrection of the long discredited "action at a distance" theories (now called "nonlocal" for marketing purposes) that require transluminal information transfer. We find field theories which mathematically require continuous and differentiable functions used to describe events which are clearly quantized. We find the famous "spacetime" which is obviously just an imaginative mathematical construct becoming a dogma that says the construct actually IS space. This is equivalent to trying to ascertain where the "poles" of Laplace analysis are stored in networks! Maybe there is a "pole rack" somewhere in the components? And of course it gets worse. The university system, insures by training students to blindly accept the most illogical of assertions as ultimate "science truth", we have developed not a science but a religion. I call it "faith-based physics". And it gets still worse. There is a political side to this as well as government and especially the military in the post-atomic era have realized there is power in technology and have taken over the funding and control of science. This means that certain ideas that may have too much political or military potential, are withdrawn from public view and erased from the public record. Often such are ideas are then replaced by nonsense to act as "placeholders". GSS if correct, it's a sad, sad, state of affairs in our profession today. But at least a few are wising up in spite of the shills hired to make sure everyone stays asleep. There is some hope. Internet discussion of such issues being one. |
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![]() "Benj" wrote in message ... On Jun 2, 1:13 pm, GSS wrote: I have been discussing related issues on these Usenet groups for the last one decade or so. Very many participants in these discussions have confirmed this viewpoint. Do you believe that current theories of Physics are based on logical foundations? Jeez. Do you get paid by the word or something? Your huge essay (which I presume is a brief summary of your book) really comes down to one central issue. Physics has been replaced by mathematics. Physics is defined as the study of phenomena. But today "advanced" physics has become synonymous with 'advanced mathematics" [in some ways due to the popular influence of Einstein]. This results in a strange affliction taking over physics. It is the widespread belief that mathematical models are more real than reality! Now mathematics is an abstract human construct with no conditions other than self-consistency. No other limitations exist. Logic, causality, agreement with experiment are not part of it. Hence once mathematics is taken as the ultimate test, it opens the door to all manner of "insane" and non-physical dogma. We find the blind resurrection of the long discredited "action at a distance" theories (now called "nonlocal" for marketing purposes) that require transluminal information transfer. We find field theories which mathematically require continuous and differentiable functions used to describe events which are clearly quantized. We find the famous "spacetime" which is obviously just an imaginative mathematical construct becoming a dogma that says the construct actually IS space. This is equivalent to trying to ascertain where the "poles" of Laplace analysis are stored in networks! Maybe there is a "pole rack" somewhere in the components? And of course it gets worse. The university system, insures by training students to blindly accept the most illogical of assertions as ultimate "science truth", we have developed not a science but a religion. I call it "faith-based physics". And it gets still worse. There is a political side to this as well as government and especially the military in the post-atomic era have realized there is power in technology and have taken over the funding and control of science. This means that certain ideas that may have too much political or military potential, are withdrawn from public view and erased from the public record. Often such are ideas are then replaced by nonsense to act as "placeholders". GSS if correct, it's a sad, sad, state of affairs in our profession today. But at least a few are wising up in spite of the shills hired to make sure everyone stays asleep. There is some hope. Internet discussion of such issues being one. ========================================== Ah, would that it even were mathematics! Physics has been replaced by sci-fi, nobody sane would claim the speed of light from A to B is c-v, the speed of light from B to A is c+v, the "time" each way is the same. That's not mathematics, that's insanity. |
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On Jun 3, 5:46 pm, Benj wrote:
On Jun 2, 1:13 pm, GSS wrote: I have been discussing related issues on these Usenet groups for the last one decade or so. Very many participants in these discussions have confirmed this viewpoint. Do you believe that current theories of Physics are based on logical foundations? Jeez. Do you get paid by the word or something? Your huge essay (which I presume is a brief summary of your book) really comes down to one central issue. Physics has been replaced by mathematics. Physics is defined as the study of phenomena. But today "advanced" physics has become synonymous with 'advanced mathematics" [in some ways due to the popular influence of Einstein]. This results in a strange affliction taking over physics. It is the widespread belief that mathematical models are more real than reality! No, mathematics is an essential and powerful tool, which can be used to analyze the physical concepts and their interrelations with great precision and conciseness. If some mathematicians misuse mathematics to dominate and brow-beat physicists, it is not the fault of mathematics. Physicists must learn to use mathematics as a powerful tool, just as the engineers do. Now mathematics is an abstract human construct with no conditions other than self-consistency. No other limitations exist. Logic, causality, agreement with experiment are not part of it. Hence once mathematics is taken as the ultimate test, it opens the door to all manner of "insane" and non-physical dogma. We find the blind resurrection of the long discredited "action at a distance" theories (now called "nonlocal" for marketing purposes) that require transluminal information transfer. We find field theories which mathematically require continuous and differentiable functions used to describe events which are clearly quantized. We find the famous "spacetime" which is obviously just an imaginative mathematical construct becoming a dogma that says the construct actually IS space. This is equivalent to trying to ascertain where the "poles" of Laplace analysis are stored in networks! Maybe there is a "pole rack" somewhere in the components? I have found during my prolonged discussions on these Usenet forums that most scientists now agree with the notion of spacetime as a mathematical model - a 4D space-time manifold. Spacetime is no longer regarded as a physical entity. In General Relativity, the Riemannian 4D space-time manifold is being used as a differential scale template for getting the trajectories of objects as geodesic curves. There is no doubt, what so ever, that GR is just a mathematical model used for obtaining the trajectories of objects as geodesic curves! However, the founders of GR did attempt to elevate this mathematical model to the status of a physical theory by assuming the 4D space-time manifold to be a physical spacetime continuum and also assuming that the mass-energy content of a gravitating body somehow controls the metric of this physical entity. Once we realize that 4D spacetime manifold is just an abstract mathematical construct and not a physical entity, then it is quite a simple matter to understand that GR is just a mathematical model and not a physical theory. http://sites.google.com/a/fundamenta...attredirects=0 And of course it gets worse. The university system, insures by training students to blindly accept the most illogical of assertions as ultimate "science truth", we have developed not a science but a religion. I call it "faith-based physics". And it gets still worse. There is a political side to this as well as government and especially the military in the post-atomic era have realized there is power in technology and have taken over the funding and control of science. This means that certain ideas that may have too much political or military potential, are withdrawn from public view and erased from the public record. Often such are ideas are then replaced by nonsense to act as "placeholders". GSS if correct, it's a sad, sad, state of affairs in our profession today. But at least a few are wising up in spite of the shills hired to make sure everyone stays asleep. There is some hope. Internet discussion of such issues being one. Hope sustains life! |
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![]() "GSS" wrote in message ... Friends, Hello crackpot. .. .. umm... .. .. Goodbye crackpot. |
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On Jun 1, 10:17*am, GSS wrote:
[snip all, unread] Nobody has purchased your book so you decided to spew here. This is unappreciated. Go away. |
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On Jun 2, 4:25*am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On Jun 1, 10:17*am, GSS wrote: [snip all, unread] Nobody has purchased your book so you decided to spew here. This is unappreciated. Go away. I do not appreciate your close minded attitude! |
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![]() "GSS" wrote in message ... On Jun 2, 4:25 am, Eric Gisse wrote: On Jun 1, 10:17 am, GSS wrote: [snip all, unread] Nobody has purchased your book so you decided to spew here. This is unappreciated. Go away. I do not appreciate your close minded attitude! --- Quit whining when people call you out for what you are, crackpot. |
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On Jun 2, 10:20*am, GSS wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:25*am, Eric Gisse wrote: On Jun 1, 10:17*am, GSS wrote: [snip all, unread] Nobody has purchased your book so you decided to spew here. This is unappreciated. Go away. I do not appreciate your close minded attitude! Unfortunately, here in Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) you're lucky if not being shot in the back of your head. The mostly republican Zionist Nazis in charge of most everything that counts, as such they seem to dislike anyone suggesting a revision (good or bad) of anything. ~ BG |
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On Jun 3, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
........... Unfortunately, here in Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) you're lucky if not being shot in the back of your head. No, that is not the case. The fact is that neither anybody here can ever shoot me in the back of my head nor anybody is ever going to even think of shooting me in any way. Of course, some of them will like to shoot my book out of existence. But majority of them will simply like to close their eyes and feel as if such a book does not exist at all. The mostly republican Zionist Nazis in charge of most everything that counts, as such they seem to dislike anyone suggesting a revision (good or bad) of anything. ~ BG Isn't it a normal psychological compulsion for most of the mediocre persons? It may appear that making sensible and plausible suggestions for any advancement or revision of the status quo is a tough job; but the testing and evaluation of such suggestions is in reality the toughest and most challenging task which most people would like to avoid. GSS |
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On Jun 4, 6:53*am, GSS wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote: .......... Unfortunately, here in Google Groups (aka Usenet/newsgroups) you're lucky if not being shot in the back of your head. No, that is not the case. The fact is that neither anybody here can ever shoot me in the back of my head nor anybody is ever going to even think of shooting me in any way. Of course, some of them will like to shoot my book out of existence. But majority of them will simply like to close their eyes and feel as if such a book does not exist at all. The mostly republican Zionist Nazis in charge of most everything that counts, as such they seem to dislike anyone suggesting a revision (good or bad) of anything. *~ BG Isn't it a normal psychological compulsion for most of the mediocre persons? It may appear that making sensible and plausible suggestions for any advancement or revision of the status quo is a tough job; but the testing and evaluation of such suggestions is in reality the toughest and most challenging task which most people would like to avoid. GSS Most of science and physics expertise will only test if publicly funded, and then look only for whatever supports their mainstream mindset. The spendy and time consuming GPB/SR fiasco is a good example of mainstream cover-thy-butt via obfuscation on steroids. ~ BG |
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