Which Comes First: Galaxy or Black Hole?

Double A Galaxy is star stuff and hydrogen is its main atoms. Think
nebular clouds. Think photostars. Theory has it that when to spiral
galaxies collide they form an elliptic galaxy,and that begs the
question. Did their BH immerge as well creating a bigger hole? Or are
these two black holes closely orbiting each other? We do see very dense
binary stars orbiting Be nice if it was possible to see two BHs
orbiting each other TreBert

On Apr 18, 5:46*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double A *Galaxy is star stuff and hydrogen is its main atoms. *Think
nebular clouds. Think photostars. * Theory has it that when to spiral
galaxies collide they form an elliptic galaxy,and that begs the
question. Did their BH immerge as well creating a bigger hole? Or are
these two black holes closely orbiting each other? *We do see very dense
binary stars orbiting * *Be nice if it was possible to see two BHs
orbiting each other * TreBert

Black holes should tightly orbit one another, unless forcibly merged,
similar to what the LHC can perform. Only a white hole of positrons
would intentionally seek out and merge with a black hole of electrons.

~ BG

TheÂ*cosmos is like gas, burning into fumes;
life ( including black holes ) lives off “ fumes �.

No matter how much fuel gets consumed,
there's always some percentage left,
enough to feed whatever can live off it ( e.g. us, today ).

On Apr 18, 5:46*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double A *Galaxy is star stuff and hydrogen is its main atoms. *Think
nebular clouds. Think photostars. * Theory has it that when to spiral
galaxies collide they form an elliptic galaxy,and that begs the
question. Did their BH immerge as well creating a bigger hole? Or are
these two black holes closely orbiting each other? *We do see very dense
binary stars orbiting * *Be nice if it was possible to see two BHs
orbiting each other * TreBert


Do you suppose two black holes orbiting send out graviuy waves that
are so energetic that they can induce virtual protons and electrons to
become real hydrogen atoms?

Double-A

On Apr 18, 7:45*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Apr 18, 5:46*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Double A *Galaxy is star stuff and hydrogen is its main atoms. *Think
nebular clouds. Think photostars. * Theory has it that when to spiral
galaxies collide they form an elliptic galaxy,and that begs the
question. Did their BH immerge as well creating a bigger hole? Or are
these two black holes closely orbiting each other? *We do see very dense
binary stars orbiting * *Be nice if it was possible to see two BHs
orbiting each other * TreBert

Do you suppose two black holes orbiting send out graviuy waves that
are so energetic that they can induce virtual protons and electrons to
become real hydrogen atoms?

Double-A

That's an interesting concept, of strong gravity waves or gravitons
via fast orbiting black holes, that'll cause photons and rogue
electrons/positrons into becoming atoms of hydrogen and other
elements.

~ BG

Double A I have a theory two close orbiting black holes will create the
vacuum energy between them to have a great "wave function' and these
are in QM "probability waves" They are the heart of quantum thinking.
AA here is a kicker. I have an idea that just this second jumped in.
"What if these two black holes create a wormhole to connect them" I see
them as two dumbells. I wonder if Feynman would use his "Sum-Over-Paths"
to fit in with this?

On Apr 16, 7:35*pm, Double-A wrote:
"Do galaxies form first and then a black hole springs up in the
center, or possibly, do galaxies form around an already existing black
hole?"

“The implication is that the black holes started growing first.”

http://www.universetoday.com/2009/01...st-galaxy-or-b...

So, where does the matter come from that forms around the black hole
and creates the galaxy? *Does it just condense out of energy? *Does
the black hole somehow stress space to cause it to condense into
matter? *Or does it just gather it from the extremely sparse
intergalactic void?

Double-A

Check out m87, with its 5000+ light year and superluminal motion jet
of energy coming from its supermassive black hole. We're talking
about a 2.5e12 massive core that has been cosmic flatulating at FTL
for quire some time.
~ BG

On Apr 19, 7:01*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double A *I have a theory two close orbiting black holes will create the
vacuum energy between them to have a great "wave function' *and these
are in QM "probability waves" *They are the heart of quantum thinking.
AA here is a kicker. I have an idea that just this second jumped in.
"What if these two black holes create a wormhole to connect them" I see
them as two dumbells. I wonder if Feynman would use his "Sum-Over-Paths"
to fit in with this?


One can only wonder, Bert.

Double-A

On Apr 19, 5:39*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:01*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Double A *I have a theory two close orbiting black holes will create the
vacuum energy between them to have a great "wave function' *and these
are in QM "probability waves" *They are the heart of quantum thinking..
AA here is a kicker. I have an idea that just this second jumped in.
"What if these two black holes create a wormhole to connect them" I see
them as two dumbells. I wonder if Feynman would use his "Sum-Over-Paths"
to fit in with this?

One can only wonder, Bert.

Double-A

Or, one can objectively monitor and in some instances quantify as to
what's going on. The LHC may soon enough prove how simple it is to
create extremely small black holes. As long as those are each the
same as matter, and not something as matter/antimatter (aka black/
white or black/clear) holes, there shouldn't be a terrestrial nova.

~ BG

On Apr 19, 7:01*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Double A *I have a theory two close orbiting black holes will create the
vacuum energy between them to have a great "wave function' *and these
are in QM "probability waves" *They are the heart of quantum thinking.
AA here is a kicker. I have an idea that just this second jumped in.
"What if these two black holes create a wormhole to connect them" I see
them as two dumbells. I wonder if Feynman would use his "Sum-Over-Paths"
to fit in with this?

There's nothing like a pair of black holes creating considerable
gravity waves, sufficient to cause stars to form as long as there's
enough molecular hydrogen to go around, so to speak.

~ BG