Bush's Moon Base. Can it be done?

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And of course NASA needs to design and build a spacecraft
that can safely transport people to altitudes beyond +300
miles above sealevel for long periods of time. Ever since
the time when hand-held electronic calculators were still
on the drawing boards--yes, actual boards with mechanical
pencils, templates and compasses drawing lines and curves
on good old-fashioned vellum (over one-third of a century
ago)-- JPL/NASA has failed to send even ONE living person
beyond low-earth orbit at a mere 250-300 miles a.s.l. Now
if NASA can solve that "little glitch"; maybe, just maybe,
they've got a shot at sending REAL astronauts to the Moon.
By the time that NASA (or their descendants?) manage that,
Mars could be next on the horizon. Until then however, it
is a pipe dream...crunch THOSE numbers on your sliderule!

Daniel Joseph Min

*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Min's Interlinear Translation of the Apocalypse:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-Frog.org

*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

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"Richard Schumacher" wrote:
Certainly! Can NASA do it? No way in hell, not without drastic
top-to-bottom organizational reform.

Dear LEM:

"LEM" wrote in message
...
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And of course NASA needs to design and build a spacecraft
that can safely transport people to altitudes beyond +300
miles above sealevel for long periods of time. Ever since
the time when hand-held electronic calculators were still
on the drawing boards--yes, actual boards with mechanical
pencils, templates and compasses drawing lines and curves
on good old-fashioned vellum (over one-third of a century
ago)-- JPL/NASA has failed to send even ONE living person

You've changed your tune. You originally allowed that they might have
orbited the Moon. Your condition is worsening.

David A. Smith

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See:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

only by using PGP to clearsign every one of my posts
was I able to emphatically identify and authenticate
my autograph manuscripts--and thwart any attempts at
counterfeiting or forging my signature. That's why I
recommend always using PGP, just like every remailer
operator says you should always use PGP to sign your
posts, thereby assuring your readers that it's yours
and not some bogus forgery. Since trolls misquote or
fabricate "quotes" and wrongly attribute them to any-
one whose character they're trying to assassinate it
behooves the serious author to PGP-sign all articles.
Otherwise, anyone can "quote" you without verifiable
sources. PGP protects your reputation against attack
and readily exposes unscrupulous attackers as trolls.
Thus every one of my posts is always PGP-clearsigned,
that way I retain credit for everything I've written,
and I cannot be credited for anything I didn't write.

"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" wrote:
You've changed your tune. You originally allowed that they might have
orbited the Moon. Your condition is worsening.

But of course you failed to cite the "originally" part.
Unless you can cite my PGP-clearsigned message ID that
shows "good" using my PGP public key, you're a failure.

Very Truly Yours,
Daniel Joseph Min

*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Min's Interlinear Translation of the Apocalypse:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-Frog.org

*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

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Dear LEM:

"LEM" wrote in message
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"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" wrote:
You've changed your tune. You originally allowed that they might have
orbited the Moon. Your condition is worsening.

But of course you failed to cite the "originally" part.
Unless you can cite my PGP-clearsigned message ID that
shows "good" using my PGP public key, you're a failure.

Your PGP doesn't show "good" now. So your condition *is* worsening.

The end of Min is near. Hallelujah!

David A. Smith

Dear George Orwell:

"George Orwell" wrote in message
...

mins pgp sig checks out .

*** PGP Signature Status: good
*** Signer: Daniel Joseph Min
*** Signed: 1/11/2004 1:14:43 PM
*** Verified: 1/10/2004 11:23:08 PM
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your complete idiot .

Thanks, Min. But I don't need a complete idiot. Putting up with you here
is enough exposure to idiocy.

Wrong.
A manned or unmanned capsule orbiting the Moon and returning
to Earth is not the same acomplishment as a manned landing and
safe return to Earth.

You did not deny the possibility of a manned orbit of the Moon as recently
as 2003-09-05
URL:http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...shaw.ca&rnum=2
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David A. Smith

Dear George Orwell:

"George Orwell" wrote in message
...
no min sig here . whos " nathan jone s " ?

It was signed by Daniel Joseph Min, with whatever alias he used at the
time. Like George Orwell now.

David A. Smith

Dear LEM:

"LEM" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, George Orwell wrote:
no min sig here . whos " nathan jone s " ?

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I did a search on Google for "Nathan Jones" and found

Yourself looking back at you.

Every article I've posted is clearsigned using my own
private PGP key which always shows a "good" signature
status when another checks it via my above-quoted key.
It's the ONLY key I ever use! Anyone who claims to be
me without my good PGP signature is obviously a fraud.

No. Just you and one of your split personalities.

But I don't see any posts where this Nathan Jones has
ever claimed to be me. Rather, he seems to sign every-
thing "Nathan Jones" and his PGP key seems to be good.

Yes, you';ve been very consistent, as any good spam-address collector
should be.

I guess it's the fact that he writes about the apollo
missions and he signed his posts with PGP, that makes
blithering rocket scientists like this "dlzc" buffoon
imagine that I am the only one on usenet who uses PGP.
I'd say this "dlzc" was never breast-fed as an infant.

Enjoy!

Oh, you are saying you are a boob! How nice.

David A. Smith

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Your credibility-quotient returns "divide by zero" error.
Your slrn scoring entry equals * drop from:...|*dlzc*|...

*plonk*

"N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" trolled:
snipped trollbait


"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
--William of Ockham (~1300-1349)

That about wraps it up for your "men to moon" fish story.

Daniel Joseph Min

*Min's Official PGP Public Key on the MIT server:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*All Apollo Moon Missions Were Unmanned:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Uncensored Apollo Moon Hoax Bookmarks:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Min's $10,000 Reward For Astronomers:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

*Min's Interlinear Translation of the Apocalypse:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-Frog.org

*Min's Newsgroup-Archived Home Page On The World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...amesh-frog.org

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Dear LEM:

"LEM" wrote in message
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Your credibility-quotient returns "divide by zero" error.
Your slrn scoring entry equals * drop from:...|*dlzc*|...

*plonk*

Thanks for the virus packge, worm bait.

David A. Smith

"LEM" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ...
So sure if you want to believe that men walked ONE THOUSAND
TIMES further out in space than any manned NASA spacecrafts
have been able to navigate since Led Zeppelin was recording
their third album, you go ahead and keep believing it...and
feel free to believe in the tooth fairy! I prefer the facts
of the matter. If a man claims to go to the Moon in a space-
craft, then that man needs to prove--beyond any shadow of a
doubt--that he in-deed and in-fact did accomplish what he's
merely claimed to have done if he expects reasonable people
to believe that he's actually done it. Doctored up pictures
from under top-top-secret domes at Area51 don't cut it. The
"proof" that man walked on the Moon is not just flimsy it's
unable to hold water much less to convince a reasonable man.
But you can keep believing in the tooth fairy if you prefer.
You didn't answer my question. Are you afraid of being proven wrong?

Volker