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Old November 20th 08, 04:05 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Jorge R. Frank
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Jeff Findley wrote:
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I wonder how much that bit of carelessness cost us taxpayers...

I don't mind my tax $$ being spent for something that's needed and I
can understand an accident or emergency, but I do mind it being thrown
away by someone who's lazy or just stupidly careless. And you know all
of those tools were custom-made at a $Million each...


You're exaggerating. The loss of a few tools is unfortunate, but people do
make mistakes. Someone forgot to fasten the toolkit inside the tool bag,
which was a mess because of a leaky grease gun.


The characterization of "lazy or just stupidly careless" is downright
offensive. There hasn't been an instance of a grease gun "exploding"
(more accurately, spewing grease all over the inside of a tool bag)
before. Heide dealt with it as professionally as possible. These things
happen. I highly doubt cfleon could have handled it any better.
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Old November 20th 08, 09:44 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle
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They kep getting opened after use as well. There is a temperature gradient
issue in 'real' space which may well have made the effect worse of course.

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"OM" wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:30:45 -0500, "Jeff Findley"
wrote:

You're exaggerating. The loss of a few tools is unfortunate, but people
do
make mistakes. Someone forgot to fasten the toolkit inside the tool bag,
which was a mess because of a leaky grease gun.


...Responding to trolls aside, the leaking gun apparently caught
everyone by surprise. According to some sources, they'd never seen
that gun leak in a vacuum like that on the ground, which either the
gun malfunctioned, or there was some outgassing issue that simply
hadn't been seen with that particular setup before.

OM

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Old November 20th 08, 04:40 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Pat Flannery wrote:



wrote:
I wonder how much that bit of carelessness cost us taxpayers...

I don't mind my tax $$ being spent for something that's needed and I
can understand an accident or emergency, but I do mind it being thrown
away by someone who's lazy or just stupidly careless. And you know all
of those tools were custom-made at a $Million each...


NASA says the value of the toolkit is around $100,000:


NASA underestimates the "value" of the bag by an order of magnitude.

http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.or...s-fd-5&catid=1

30 lbs x 20,000 $/lb = $3,000,000 plus the $100,000

Watching the video, I would think a Space Station Astronaut might not have
thrown the bag away, "set it to the side" with a departing velocity. They
probably are much better a zeroing rates of things they letting go of.
Shuttle Astronauts are still learning. On one of the rendezvous burn
videos, the pilot was having a hard time getting what looked to be a
kitchen timer to float with zero rates. Too bad the didn't show the result
of the burn, timer flying towards the tail.
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Old November 21st 08, 04:56 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Pat Flannery wrote:

NASA says the value of the toolkit is around $100,000 [..]
Pat


Presumably, that's *excluding* the delivery charge...
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Old November 20th 08, 01:02 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On Nov 20, 1:59*am, OM wrote:


...What *is* it with women and their purses, anyway? :-P


If it was a tool box, that opens up a whole other can of
connotations
 




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