How the gas Giants planets gathered their gas at formation

On Sep 28, 8:23*am, Saul Levy wrote:
Most "starstuff" is light elements, Mitch. *You know: *hydrogen,
helium, etc.

Anything above helium is considered a METAL by astrophysicists.
(We've covered that topic before too!)

Saul Levy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:10:27 -0700 (PDT), BURT
wrote:



On Sep 27, 6:30*pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BURT" wrote in message

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I believe they started as a huge rock metal core greater than the
mass
of the earth that was capable of gathering their huge gas atmospheres
through great gravity. Gas by itself does not possess enough gravity..

No, but starstuffs do.

Those starstuffs I take to be the heavier elements that would make the
gas giants core capturing the gas.

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I still think you need a more massive core made of metal and rock to
capture all the gas the giant planets are made of.

Mitch Raemsch

"BURT" wrote in message...
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I still think you need a more massive core made of metal and rock to
capture all the gas the giant planets are made of.

Mitch Raemsch

Perhaps, however even a relatively small rock would
gather the gas if it were orbiting through a hydrogen
cloud blown outward by the initial Solar wind when
the Sun first "lit up". Then, as more and more gas is
gathered, gravitational effect increases making it
easier and easier to gather gas and to sustain a huge
and growing hydrogen atmosphere.

When all the gas has been gathered, then protoJupiter
becomes... Jupiter.

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On Sep 28, 5:05*pm, "Painius" wrote:
"BURT" wrote in message...

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I still think you need a more massive core made of metal and rock to
capture all the gas the giant planets are made of.

Mitch Raemsch

Perhaps, however even a relatively small rock would
gather the gas if it were orbiting through a hydrogen
cloud blown outward by the initial Solar wind when
the Sun first "lit up". *Then, as more and more gas is
gathered, gravitational effect increases making it
easier and easier to gather gas and to sustain a huge
and growing hydrogen atmosphere.

When all the gas has been gathered, then protoJupiter
becomes... Jupiter.

happy days and...
* *starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

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You need more rock and metal to start capturing gas. It is probably
gas from then on the drives up the gravity that captures more gas.

Mitch Raemsch

Burt That is realistic thinking that firsr came the rock and metal core
that had enough gravity to have the force to hold gasses around it. Mars
much smaller than the Earth only has 1% as much atmosphere. Thus Mars
atmosphere can only be two heavy gases 95% CO 2.7 % Nitrogen Jupiter on
the other hand started with a rock core so great(15 times greater than
Earth) can hold the lightest gas hydrogen,and that maKES IT A GAS
PLANET.

On Sep 28, 7:37*am, ah wrote:
BURT wrote:
I believe they started as a huge rock metal core greater than the
mass
of the earth that was capable of gathering their huge gas atmospheres
through great gravity. Gas by itself does not possess enough gravity.

Next time you make a fire, set a stone in it for an hour, or so.

When the flames die-down, place a leaf on the stone.

Imagine the stone being as large as The Moon, its gravity hugging all the
byproducts of that thermal transfer...
--
ah


Huh?

Double-A

On Sep 29, 2:51*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Burt *That is realistic thinking that firsr came the rock and metal core
that had enough gravity to have the force to hold gasses around it. Mars
much smaller than the Earth only has 1% as much atmosphere. Thus Mars
atmosphere can only be two heavy gases 95% CO 2.7 % Nitrogen *Jupiter on
the other hand started with a rock core so great(15 times greater than
Earth) can hold the lightest gas hydrogen,and that maKES IT A GAS
PLANET.

For Jupiter the metal rock core has to be 13 times the mass of the
Earth.

Mitch Raemsch

What? That heavier elements SINK, BEERTbrain? lmao!

The same thing happened with the Earth.

Saul Levy


On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:57:31 -0400, (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:

Cactus saul Best you realize Jupiter core mass is 15 times greater than
the whole earth. Even you being a no brainer that has to tell you some
thing(I hope) bert

On Sep 29, 3:51*pm, Saul Levy wrote:
What? *That heavier elements SINK, BEERTbrain? *lmao!

The same thing happened with the Earth.

Saul Levy

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:57:31 -0400, (G=EMC^2



Glazier) wrote:
Cactus saul *Best you realize Jupiter core mass is 15 times greater than
the whole earth. Even you being a no brainer that has to tell you some
thing(I hope) *bert- Hide quoted text -

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That 15 earth mass was metal and rock.

Mitch Raemsch

Good for you, Mitch! Then it was ALIENS who formed each metal/rock
core and started the whole planet! lmao!

That makes as much sense as what you wrote.

Saul Levy


On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:23:29 -0700 (PDT), BURT
wrote:

On Sep 28, 8:23*am, Saul Levy wrote:
Most "starstuff" is light elements, Mitch. *You know: *hydrogen,
helium, etc.

Anything above helium is considered a METAL by astrophysicists.
(We've covered that topic before too!)

Saul Levy

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:10:27 -0700 (PDT), BURT
wrote:

Those starstuffs I take to be the heavier elements that would make the
gas giants core capturing the gas.

Mitch Raemsch

I still think you need a more massive core made of metal and rock to
capture all the gas the giant planets are made of.

Mitch Raemsch

Why do you DELUDED FOOLS keep harping on such **** as this, Mark?

As I said, you ARE A JOKE!

Saul Levy


On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:04:53 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
wrote:


"Saul Levy" wrote in message
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And you're an EXPERT now on scattered stuff, Mark?

This from a MAN (?) who rejects EVERYTHING that SCIENCE has
determined, but believes in ANGELS?

BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

We've read your STUFF before, Mark. It's all A BIG JOKE!

Not much left for us to go on! I don't mean toilets!

Saul Levy


This from a man that believes SCIENTISTS?
Those idiots that can't get us out of Earth orbit 39 years after landing
a man on the Moon?

Over the cliff you go, lemming!