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Old August 12th 08, 08:46 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.misc,sci.skeptic,sci.environment.waste
Steve Wallis
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Default sci.environment censorship or deleted? Graphs justifying globalwarming theory fabricated

I sent two previous messages in a thread I started entitled "Global
dimming and ice age predictions after WW2 contradict global warming
theory" to sci.environment and four other groups. However, when I
tried to send my latest message proving that graphs have been
fabricated, Google Groups said that it does not support sending
messages to sci.environment. I suspected censorship but I have just
noticed that sci.environment does not exist at all as far as Google
Groups is concerned. Can anybody else access that newsgroup?

I want to reach scientists conducting work on global warming and other
issues to do with the environment, to influence them and get feedback.
Hence I've included my latest message in the thread to these five
vaguely related groups. If you want to read the whole thread, you can
go to http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...2fb81971711597.

On 11 Aug, 15:20, "V for Vendicar"
m wrote:
"Peter Muehlbauer" wrote
TSI is significantly involved in temperature increase and decrease.


How sad for you that the total energy output from the sun (TSI) has
decreased over the last 20-30 years as the earth's temperature has been
rising.


Well, I just googled "total energy output from the sun TSI" (without
quotes) and the first item that came up was a March 2003 SPACE.COM
article entitled "Sun's Output Increasing in Possible Trend Fueling
Global Warming" (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/
sun_output_030320.html).

The first paragraph says "In what could be the simplest explanation
for one component of global warming, a new study shows the Sun's
radiation has increased by .05 percent per decade since the late
1970s.", which rather contradicts your assertion.

What is perhaps more significant is a graph showing "Northern
Hemisphere Land Temperature and Solar Cycle", with an "Astrophysical
Journal" source and showing temperatures clearly decreasing over a
period of 30 years or so (quite possibly 1943-74 which Fran
mentioned). The graphs in the Wikpedia pages (http://en.wikipedia.org/
wiki/Global_dimming and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori...erature_record)
show cooling from 1940-50, particularly looking at 5-year averages,
and no noticeable cooling in the subsequent decades. Those Wikipedia
graphs are clearly a fabrication; I can't see how an ice age could
seriously have been predicted in the 1970s if it hadn't actually got
colder in the previous 20 years!

Does anybody know of any graphs for southern hemisphere temperatures,
which I have heard haven't actually increased when northern
hemisphere
ones have?

Maybe I haven't browsed as many science websites as others, mainly
getting information from mainstream media and New Scientist (which
incidentally had a small item recently predicting cooling over the
next decade!) However, it is difficult to distinguish disinformation
from the truth with big vested interests at stake, so I prefer to put
my views on public forums such as these and let both sides put their
views forward and we'll see who wins the argument. I'm perfectly
prepared to change my position and support the global warming
consensus if there's strong enough evidence for it.

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