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Old August 2nd 08, 11:53 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
Matthew Johnson
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In article , Dr. Henri Wilson
says...

[snip]

Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium
speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL.


Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from
Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived?


I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it?

When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction.


The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that
accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at
some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates
in the opposite direction?

Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button
in the middle of the spasm?


Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards.


More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your
example.

PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as
evidence of your knowledge.

And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you
keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is
c. Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high
dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region -
but that is not an inertial frame).

[snip]

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Old August 3rd 08, 01:20 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On Aug 2, 5:25*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT), PD wrote:
On Aug 1, 4:59*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT), PD wrote:
On Jul 31, 6:13*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:45:06 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker
Correction: Light speed unification has been GUESSED by Wilson,
without physical cause as to what would *speed up* light through the
same path that also *slows it down*, other than pixies labeled "Wilson
Hypothetical Babbles". Nothing of the sort has been shown to occur.


Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium
speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL.


Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from
Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived?


When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction..


The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that
accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at
some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates
in the opposite direction?


Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button
in the middle of the spasm?


Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards.

Learn some basic physics please.


Which basic physics are you referring to that talks about regions
recoiling?




....that's trivial to any physicist.


Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm


All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.


Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.


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Old August 3rd 08, 12:39 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm

I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has
got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye.

You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection
to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT
Israel.

The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work
together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry.
Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. It
is also a leader in the exploitation of solar power.

It is not Israel that is preventing this. The Arabs were told they
could push Israel into the sea. They didn't and lost 4 wars. Potter I
think your campaign against Relativity would have a little more
credibility if you could win wars. No you lost 5 wars WW2 was also
lost. Vril aircraft did NOT turn the tide.


- Ian Parker
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Old August 3rd 08, 11:21 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On 2 Aug 2008 15:53:07 -0700, Matthew Johnson
wrote:

In article , Dr. Henri Wilson
says...


Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium
speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL.

Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from
Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived?


I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it?


Space is something like a vast turbulent, low pressure gas in which the
presence of 'fields' is as important as that of matter. If a particular region
could be identified for speed reference pirposes, a natural EM speed of
approximately c could be assigned to it. However because of its rare nature,
most light emitted in or passing through that region is only very slightly
affected.
This is a pretty simple theory. I don't see your problem.

When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction.

The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that
accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at
some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates
in the opposite direction?

Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button
in the middle of the spasm?


Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards.


More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your
example.

PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as
evidence of your knowledge.


Diaper never includes physics in his messages...so how would you know?

And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you
keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is
c.


.....that's an unproven postulate, moron. It is merely a prediction of LET....a
consequence of the mythical LTs.
Einstein used the conclusion of LET to start his stupid theory then worked the
math backwards. ...and a lot of suckers fell for it....and still do...

Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high
dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region -
but that is not an inertial frame).


The speed of light in transit varies up and down continuously. It also
experiences a slow but steady loss of energy, which accounts for the cosmic
redshift.

[snip]




Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.
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Old August 3rd 08, 11:26 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker
wrote:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm

I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has
got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye.

You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection
to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT
Israel.

The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work
together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry.
Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. It
is also a leader in the exploitation of solar power.

It is not Israel that is preventing this. The Arabs were told they
could push Israel into the sea. They didn't and lost 4 wars. Potter I
think your campaign against Relativity would have a little more
credibility if you could win wars. No you lost 5 wars WW2 was also
lost. Vril aircraft did NOT turn the tide.


Einstein is indeed symbolic proof of Jewish intellectual superiority.

- Ian Parker


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Old August 3rd 08, 11:42 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
PD
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On Aug 3, 5:21*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On 2 Aug 2008 15:53:07 -0700, Matthew Johnson
wrote:

In article , Dr. Henri Wilson
says...
Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium
speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL.


Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from
Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived?


I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it?


Space is something like a vast turbulent, low pressure gas in which the
presence of 'fields' is as important as that of matter. If a particular region
could be identified for speed reference pirposes, a natural EM speed of
approximately c could be assigned to it. However because of its rare nature,
most light emitted in or passing through that region is only very slightly
affected.
This is a pretty simple theory. I don't see your problem.


I'm sorry. Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation
from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived.

Just because YOUR attention span is so short you lose track from post
to post, doesn't mean that others are in the same boat, especially
when it is QUOTED immediately above.

Idiot.

Oh, hey, you *plonked* me, or you said you did. I predicted that was a
lie. It turns out once again that you have been caught in a lie. You
apparently don't give a whit about your character reputation.

When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction.


The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that
accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at
some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates
in the opposite direction?


Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button
in the middle of the spasm?


Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards.


More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your
example.


PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as
evidence of your knowledge.


Diaper never includes physics in his messages...so how would you know?


I asked you where Maxwell's equations predict what you claimed they
do. That's physics. You made an assertion about physics, and I asked
about details of the physics, and you went straight to hell in a
handbasket.


And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you
keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is
c.


....that's an unproven postulate, moron. *It is merely a prediction of LET....a
consequence of the mythical LTs.
Einstein used the conclusion of LET to start his stupid theory then worked the
math backwards. ...and a lot of suckers fell for it....and still do...

Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high
dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region -
but that is not an inertial frame).


The speed of light in transit varies up and down continuously. It also
experiences a slow but steady loss of energy, which accounts for the cosmic
redshift.

[snip]


Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm

All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate.


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Old August 4th 08, 04:59 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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"Ian Parker" wrote in message ...
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm

I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has
got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye.

You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection
to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT
Israel.

The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work
together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry.
Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea
"In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water.
From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13]
it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r
eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. "

Considering that the International organization that
arbitrates water rights indicates that
Israel steals most of the Palestinian's water,
and owes Palestine several billion dollars for stolen water,

and considering that Israel recently provoked, and lost,
a war with Lebanon that was motivated by the desire to
steal Lebanese land up to the Litani River
so that Israel could tap the river
and steal more Lebonese water,
http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm

one would think that Israel would use
"some of the best desalination membranes in the world"
to supply their water needs,
and recharge the Dead Sea.

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Old August 4th 08, 06:40 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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Tom Potter wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea
"In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water.
From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13]
it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r
eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. "


Which would make sense if not for the reason that it's called "The Dead
Sea" as it's 8.6 times more saline than the Mediterranean Sea, fish and
plants can't live in it, and therefore far more difficult to make
drinkable than water from either the River Jordon on Israel's east, or
the Mediterranean Sea on Israel's west.
If the Palestinians really desire to drink the water from the Dead Sea,
I'm sure that Bibi Netanyahu would have no problem with that
whatsoever...they'd all be dead inside of a couple of days from
dehydration due to excessive salt intake.
In fact, with salt making up 31.5% of the water in the Dead Sea:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea they might end up looking like
salted fish mummies of some sort, putting Lot's wife to the test for
overall saline content per pound weight :-D


Pat
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Old August 4th 08, 11:17 AM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
Ian Parker
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On 4 Aug, 04:59, "Tom Potter" wrote:

The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work
together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry.
Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea
"In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water.
From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13]
it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r
eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. "

It is unfortunate that there is such a scramble for water. This is
true, but Israel is not the only culprit. Turkey is extracting water
from the Tigres and Euphates and Syria is extraccting water from the
Euphrates before it gets to Iraq. The flow is nothing like what is was
in the time of Hammurabi.

If the Golan Heights were to be returned, and I think the chances are
they would be Syria would be in a position to drain the Sea of
Galillee.

A rational water policy is needed. I think that peace and the return
of the Golan will bring about an element of technology transfer.

Considering that *the International organization that
arbitrates water rights indicates that
*Israel steals most of the Palestinian's water,
and owes Palestine several billion dollars for stolen water,

and considering that Israel recently provoked, and lost,
a war with Lebanon that was motivated by the desire to
steal Lebanese land up to the Litani River
so that Israel could tap the river
and steal more Lebonese water,


The push to the Litani river was motivated by rocket attacks by
Hezbullah. Take the rockets away and Israel will retreat from the
Litani.
*http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm

one would think that Israel would use
"some of the best desalination membranes in the world"
to supply their water needs,
and recharge the Dead Sea.

There is a plan to drill a tunnel to the Mediterranean which will
bring in water of much lower salinity. War is not a cost effective way
to get resources whether oil or water. Israel realizes this. The
Litani is in fact quite a small stream, it won't irrigate much land.

I would like to see technology transfer in a peaceful atmosphere. I
have had one thought which may be totally irrelevant, totally
impracticable. Basic plant biology tells us that plants open their
chloroplasts to take in CO2 which despite all the scares about global
warming is still a small proportion of the atmosphere. Water loss
occurs though the chlorplasts and plant growth is normaly limited by
water not energy. If plants were to be grown in pure CO2 they would
grow rapidly and use very little water.


- Ian Parker
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Old August 4th 08, 01:55 PM posted to sci.astro,sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.space.policy
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On Aug 4, 1:40*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Tom Potterwrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea
"In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water.
From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13]
it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r
eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. "


Which would make sense if not for the reason that it's called "The Dead
Sea" as it's 8.6 times more saline than the Mediterranean Sea, fish and
plants can't live in it, and therefore far more difficult to make
drinkable than water from either the River Jordon on Israel's east, or
the Mediterranean Sea on Israel's west.
If the Palestinians really desire to drink the water from the Dead Sea,
I'm sure that Bibi Netanyahu would have no problem with that
whatsoever...they'd all be dead inside of a couple of days from
dehydration due to excessive salt intake.
In fact, with salt making up 31.5% of the water in the Dead Sea:http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Seathey might end up looking like
salted fish mummies of some sort, putting Lot's wife to the test for
overall saline content per pound weight :-D

Pat


It appears that "Pat Flannery"
has a reading comprehension problem.

As can be seen from his statement:
"The fountains in Damascus are dry.
Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world."
"Ian Parker" implied that Israel has the capability to efficiently
produce fresh water,
whereas Syria does not,

when the fact of the matter is that
Israel steals water from the Palestinians,

and waged war (Unsuccessfully) on Lebanon
to try to steal more of their water,
by tapping into the Litani River.

I suggest that if "Pat Flannery" or anyone wants
to see examples of Jews treat their neighbors,
they should take a look at the following web sites.

http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...arabisrael.htm

http://www.internationalviewpoint.or...hp?article1211

http://www.ipcri.org/watconf/papers/davidp.pdf

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/water.html

http://www.ipcri.org/watconf/papers/fayeq.pdf

http://www.palestine-pmc.com/****ue/water.asp

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