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In article , Dr. Henri Wilson
says... [snip] Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL. Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived? I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it? When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction. The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates in the opposite direction? Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button in the middle of the spasm? Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards. More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your example. PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as evidence of your knowledge. And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is c. Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region - but that is not an inertial frame). [snip] |
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On Aug 2, 5:25*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:08:13 -0700 (PDT), PD wrote: On Aug 1, 4:59*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:25:44 -0700 (PDT), PD wrote: On Jul 31, 6:13*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:45:06 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker Correction: Light speed unification has been GUESSED by Wilson, without physical cause as to what would *speed up* light through the same path that also *slows it down*, other than pixies labeled "Wilson Hypothetical Babbles". Nothing of the sort has been shown to occur. Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL. Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived? When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction.. The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates in the opposite direction? Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button in the middle of the spasm? Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards. Learn some basic physics please. Which basic physics are you referring to that talks about regions recoiling? ....that's trivial to any physicist. Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. |
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http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye. You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT Israel. The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry. Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. It is also a leader in the exploitation of solar power. It is not Israel that is preventing this. The Arabs were told they could push Israel into the sea. They didn't and lost 4 wars. Potter I think your campaign against Relativity would have a little more credibility if you could win wars. No you lost 5 wars WW2 was also lost. Vril aircraft did NOT turn the tide. - Ian Parker |
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On 2 Aug 2008 15:53:07 -0700, Matthew Johnson
wrote: In article , Dr. Henri Wilson says... Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL. Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived? I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it? Space is something like a vast turbulent, low pressure gas in which the presence of 'fields' is as important as that of matter. If a particular region could be identified for speed reference pirposes, a natural EM speed of approximately c could be assigned to it. However because of its rare nature, most light emitted in or passing through that region is only very slightly affected. This is a pretty simple theory. I don't see your problem. When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction. The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates in the opposite direction? Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button in the middle of the spasm? Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards. More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your example. PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as evidence of your knowledge. Diaper never includes physics in his messages...so how would you know? And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is c. .....that's an unproven postulate, moron. It is merely a prediction of LET....a consequence of the mythical LTs. Einstein used the conclusion of LET to start his stupid theory then worked the math backwards. ...and a lot of suckers fell for it....and still do... Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region - but that is not an inertial frame). The speed of light in transit varies up and down continuously. It also experiences a slow but steady loss of energy, which accounts for the cosmic redshift. [snip] Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:39:24 -0700 (PDT), Ian Parker
wrote: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye. You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT Israel. The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry. Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. It is also a leader in the exploitation of solar power. It is not Israel that is preventing this. The Arabs were told they could push Israel into the sea. They didn't and lost 4 wars. Potter I think your campaign against Relativity would have a little more credibility if you could win wars. No you lost 5 wars WW2 was also lost. Vril aircraft did NOT turn the tide. Einstein is indeed symbolic proof of Jewish intellectual superiority. - Ian Parker |
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On Aug 3, 5:21*pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On 2 Aug 2008 15:53:07 -0700, Matthew Johnson wrote: In article , Dr. Henri Wilson says... Diaper, light pasing through any region of space TENDS TOWARDS the equilibrium speed relative to that region AS PER MAXWELL. Really? Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived? I see you couldn't answer this. Telling, isn't it? Space is something like a vast turbulent, low pressure gas in which the presence of 'fields' is as important as that of matter. If a particular region could be identified for speed reference pirposes, a natural EM speed of approximately c could be assigned to it. However because of its rare nature, most light emitted in or passing through that region is only very slightly affected. This is a pretty simple theory. I don't see your problem. I'm sorry. Where does Maxwell say that? Please derive this equation from Maxwell's equations or point to where it is derived. Just because YOUR attention span is so short you lose track from post to post, doesn't mean that others are in the same boat, especially when it is QUOTED immediately above. Idiot. Oh, hey, you *plonked* me, or you said you did. I predicted that was a lie. It turns out once again that you have been caught in a lie. You apparently don't give a whit about your character reputation. When light speeds up, the region accelerates in the opposite direction. The *region* accelerates? Where are the borders of the region that accelerates in the opposite direction? If light were to accelerate at some point in a room, how much of the region in that room accelerates in the opposite direction? Or did you just have a hand cramp and mistakenly hit the Send button in the middle of the spasm? Diaper, whenever YOU move, the earth moves backwards. More hand cramps: the earth is not "the region" that "accelerates" in your example. PD knows basic physics much better than you do -- if we take your posts as evidence of your knowledge. Diaper never includes physics in his messages...so how would you know? I asked you where Maxwell's equations predict what you claimed they do. That's physics. You made an assertion about physics, and I asked about details of the physics, and you went straight to hell in a handbasket. And speaking of "basic physics", basic physics included the knowlege that you keep denying, that the vacuum speed of light in any inertial reference frame is c. ....that's an unproven postulate, moron. *It is merely a prediction of LET....a consequence of the mythical LTs. Einstein used the conclusion of LET to start his stupid theory then worked the math backwards. ...and a lot of suckers fell for it....and still do... Light does not "speed up", except when making the transition from high dielectric constant medium to low (or when leaving a very high gravity region - but that is not an inertial frame). The speed of light in transit varies up and down continuously. It also experiences a slow but steady loss of energy, which accounts for the cosmic redshift. [snip] Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm All religion involves selling a nonexistant product to gullible fools. Einstein cleverly exploited this principle with his second postulate. |
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![]() "Ian Parker" wrote in message ... http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/145726.shtml http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/amin_en.html http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...st/odessa.html http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cia-fatah.htm I have said that the most expensive "dole" project was IRAQ. It has got far more connections to anti Relativity than meets the eye. You are anti Semitic. You have in effect said so. The Nazi connection to the Arab world is part of the tragedy of the Middle East. It is NOT Israel. The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry. Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea "In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water. From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13] it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. " Considering that the International organization that arbitrates water rights indicates that Israel steals most of the Palestinian's water, and owes Palestine several billion dollars for stolen water, and considering that Israel recently provoked, and lost, a war with Lebanon that was motivated by the desire to steal Lebanese land up to the Litani River so that Israel could tap the river and steal more Lebonese water, http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm one would think that Israel would use "some of the best desalination membranes in the world" to supply their water needs, and recharge the Dead Sea. -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ingleberry.htm ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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![]() Tom Potter wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea "In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water. From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13] it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. " Which would make sense if not for the reason that it's called "The Dead Sea" as it's 8.6 times more saline than the Mediterranean Sea, fish and plants can't live in it, and therefore far more difficult to make drinkable than water from either the River Jordon on Israel's east, or the Mediterranean Sea on Israel's west. If the Palestinians really desire to drink the water from the Dead Sea, I'm sure that Bibi Netanyahu would have no problem with that whatsoever...they'd all be dead inside of a couple of days from dehydration due to excessive salt intake. In fact, with salt making up 31.5% of the water in the Dead Sea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea they might end up looking like salted fish mummies of some sort, putting Lot's wife to the test for overall saline content per pound weight :-D Pat |
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On 4 Aug, 04:59, "Tom Potter" wrote:
The Middle East is arid. The Arabs and Israel should both work together to make the land fertile. The fountains in Damascus are dry. Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea "In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water. From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13] it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. " It is unfortunate that there is such a scramble for water. This is true, but Israel is not the only culprit. Turkey is extracting water from the Tigres and Euphates and Syria is extraccting water from the Euphrates before it gets to Iraq. The flow is nothing like what is was in the time of Hammurabi. If the Golan Heights were to be returned, and I think the chances are they would be Syria would be in a position to drain the Sea of Galillee. A rational water policy is needed. I think that peace and the return of the Golan will bring about an element of technology transfer. Considering that *the International organization that arbitrates water rights indicates that *Israel steals most of the Palestinian's water, and owes Palestine several billion dollars for stolen water, and considering that Israel recently provoked, and lost, a war with Lebanon that was motivated by the desire to steal Lebanese land up to the Litani River so that Israel could tap the river and steal more Lebonese water, The push to the Litani river was motivated by rocket attacks by Hezbullah. Take the rockets away and Israel will retreat from the Litani. *http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm one would think that Israel would use "some of the best desalination membranes in the world" to supply their water needs, and recharge the Dead Sea. There is a plan to drill a tunnel to the Mediterranean which will bring in water of much lower salinity. War is not a cost effective way to get resources whether oil or water. Israel realizes this. The Litani is in fact quite a small stream, it won't irrigate much land. I would like to see technology transfer in a peaceful atmosphere. I have had one thought which may be totally irrelevant, totally impracticable. Basic plant biology tells us that plants open their chloroplasts to take in CO2 which despite all the scares about global warming is still a small proportion of the atmosphere. Water loss occurs though the chlorplasts and plant growth is normaly limited by water not energy. If plants were to be grown in pure CO2 they would grow rapidly and use very little water. - Ian Parker |
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On Aug 4, 1:40*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Tom Potterwrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea "In recent decades, the Dead Sea has been rapidly shrinking because of diversion of incoming water. From an elevation of 395 m (1,296 ft) below sea level in 1970 [13] it fell 22 m (72 ft) to 418 m (1,371 ft) below sea level in 2006, r eaching a drop rate of 1 m (3 ft) per year. " Which would make sense if not for the reason that it's called "The Dead Sea" as it's 8.6 times more saline than the Mediterranean Sea, fish and plants can't live in it, and therefore far more difficult to make drinkable than water from either the River Jordon on Israel's east, or the Mediterranean Sea on Israel's west. If the Palestinians really desire to drink the water from the Dead Sea, I'm sure that Bibi Netanyahu would have no problem with that whatsoever...they'd all be dead inside of a couple of days from dehydration due to excessive salt intake. In fact, with salt making up 31.5% of the water in the Dead Sea:http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Seathey might end up looking like salted fish mummies of some sort, putting Lot's wife to the test for overall saline content per pound weight :-D Pat It appears that "Pat Flannery" has a reading comprehension problem. As can be seen from his statement: "The fountains in Damascus are dry. Israel makes some of the best desalination membranes in the world." "Ian Parker" implied that Israel has the capability to efficiently produce fresh water, whereas Syria does not, when the fact of the matter is that Israel steals water from the Palestinians, and waged war (Unsuccessfully) on Lebanon to try to steal more of their water, by tapping into the Litani River. I suggest that if "Pat Flannery" or anyone wants to see examples of Jews treat their neighbors, they should take a look at the following web sites. http://www.american.edu/ted/ice/litani.htm http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...arabisrael.htm http://www.internationalviewpoint.or...hp?article1211 http://www.ipcri.org/watconf/papers/davidp.pdf http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/water.html http://www.ipcri.org/watconf/papers/fayeq.pdf http://www.palestine-pmc.com/****ue/water.asp -- Tom Potter http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter/ http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ingleberry.htm |
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