Increased hurricane activity linked to sea surface warming

"kT" wrote in message
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Vince Morgan wrote:

I'm not saying that an increase in surface water temperature plays no
role,
it certainly does, but the article above presents an overly simplistic
argument.

It was a press release, they generally are simplifications of the actual
peer reviewed and published papers.

What is clear is that anything that comes out of the University of Miami
or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National
Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center and their primary
researchers is highly suspect, as a quick perusal of Mr. Wang's CV clearly
illustrates. Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted by the
Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination.

How some of this crap gets past peer review is worthy of investigation.
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"Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted
by the Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination"

Horse****. According to you, your version is the only version that can be
proven. Just come out and say it as you PRETEND to be a scientist.

Science is a search for the truth, not a crusade against Bush, or anything
else. Imbeciles, such as yourself, would not recognize a true statement, or
legitimate research, because you have been 'born again' and Al Gore is
your Daddy. Now you must believe you are right. Wrong. They issue PhD to
anyone that can't gain employment and stay in school for 8 years. I always
said practicing scientists with real world experience should be the ideal
PhD candidates. It would get rid of a lot a crusaders and the string theory
in one day.

"What, Al Gore got the Nobel Prize? - - I want to return mine"
Albert Einstein, from the grave
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On Jan 31, 11:43*am, "SBC Yahoo"
wrote:
"kT" wrote in message

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Vince Morgan wrote:

I'm not saying that an increase in surface water temperature plays no
role,
it certainly does, but the article above presents an overly simplistic
argument.

It was a press release, they generally are simplifications of the actual
peer reviewed and published papers.

What is clear is that anything that comes out of the University of Miami
or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National
Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center and their primary
researchers is highly suspect, as a quick perusal of Mr. Wang's CV clearly
illustrates. Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted by the
Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination.

How some of this crap gets past peer review is worthy of investigation.

- - - - -
"Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted

by the Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination"

Horse****. *According to you, your version is the only version that can be
proven. *Just come out and say it as you PRETEND to be a scientist.

Science is a search for the truth, not a crusade against Bush, or anything
else. *Imbeciles, such as yourself, would not recognize a true statement, or
legitimate research, because you have been 'born again' and *Al Gore *is
your Daddy. *Now you must believe you are right. *Wrong. *They issue PhD to
anyone that can't gain employment and stay in school for 8 years. *I always
said practicing scientists with real world experience should be the ideal
PhD candidates. *It would get rid of a lot a crusaders and the string theory
in one day.

Yes, that way Big Oil could buy all their "scientists" PhDs.


"What, Al Gore got the Nobel Prize? - - I want to return mine"
Albert Einstein, from the grave

Einstein would congratulate Gore for getting the Internet turned over
to the private sector.

Gore winning the Nobel Prize is much easier to believe than is Bush
Jr. serving two terms as president.

SBC Yahoo wrote:
"kT" wrote in message
...
Vince Morgan wrote:

I'm not saying that an increase in surface water temperature plays no
role,
it certainly does, but the article above presents an overly simplistic
argument.
It was a press release, they generally are simplifications of the actual
peer reviewed and published papers.

What is clear is that anything that comes out of the University of Miami
or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the National
Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center and their primary
researchers is highly suspect, as a quick perusal of Mr. Wang's CV clearly
illustrates. Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted by the
Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination.

How some of this crap gets past peer review is worthy of investigation.
- - - - -
"Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted
by the Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination"

Horse****.

OMG you are so kewl!

According to you, your version is the only version that can be
proven. Just come out and say it as you PRETEND to be a scientist.

Scientists don't pretend to prove things, that's mathematics, sorry.

Science is a search for the truth, not a crusade against Bush, or anything
else. Imbeciles, such as yourself, would not recognize a true statement, or
legitimate research, because you have been 'born again' and Al Gore is
your Daddy. Now you must believe you are right. Wrong. They issue PhD to
anyone that can't gain employment and stay in school for 8 years. I always
said practicing scientists with real world experience should be the ideal
PhD candidates. It would get rid of a lot a crusaders and the string theory
in one day.

Is 25 years of field work in the Atlantic Ocean experience enough for
you? It works for me. This is simple thermodynamics we are talking
about, results that only a very clearly massaging of data by Landsea,
Peilke and Max Mayfield, William Gray, et al. can reduce to nonsense.

We know who the players are, now Wang has positioned himself with them.

kT wrote:
SBC Yahoo wrote:
"kT" wrote in message
...
Vince Morgan wrote:

I'm not saying that an increase in surface water temperature plays
no role,
it certainly does, but the article above presents an overly simplistic
argument.
It was a press release, they generally are simplifications of the
actual peer reviewed and published papers.

What is clear is that anything that comes out of the University of
Miami or the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the
National Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center and their
primary researchers is highly suspect, as a quick perusal of Mr.
Wang's CV clearly illustrates. Large tracts of these agencies have
been corrupted by the Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by
any examination.

How some of this crap gets past peer review is worthy of investigation.
- - - - -
"Large tracts of these agencies have been corrupted
by the Bush Administration, and it shows clearly by any examination"

Horse****.

OMG you are so kewl!

According to you, your version is the only version that can be
proven. Just come out and say it as you PRETEND to be a scientist.

Scientists don't pretend to prove things, that's mathematics, sorry.

Science is a search for the truth, not a crusade against Bush, or
anything else. Imbeciles, such as yourself, would not recognize a
true statement, or legitimate research, because you have been 'born
again' and Al Gore is your Daddy. Now you must believe you are
right. Wrong. They issue PhD to anyone that can't gain employment
and stay in school for 8 years. I always said practicing scientists
with real world experience should be the ideal PhD candidates. It
would get rid of a lot a crusaders and the string theory in one day.

Is 25 years of field work in the Atlantic Ocean experience enough for
you? It works for me. This is simple thermodynamics we are talking
about, results that only a very clearly massaging of data by Landsea,
Peilke and Max Mayfield, William Gray, et al. can reduce to nonsense.

We know who the players are, now Wang has positioned himself with them.


Gee I wish they didn't teach "simple thermodynamics" any more.
"Heat" would do just fine to answer all these questions. Try "heat
capacity", "heat of fusion", "heat of vaporization" etc, and apply to
your subjects.

gresham

So hurricanes are heating up the ocean too?
Bad enough the blow roofs off and cause flooding.

"kT" wrote in message
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-iha012808.php
I would like to add that I think there is hanky panky on every side of the
debate to some degree or other.
It seems there is some very strange agendas at the moment, and so much
political propaganda that it's very difficult to understand what is really
going on!
Something is certainly going on with the weather, but some of the positions
being taken seem truly bizarre.
The lobby against CO2 seems not to be based on actual science, even though
the proponents point at melting ice etc and don't seem to offer any real
science to support the CO2 argument.
Considering that it's the ones providing the CO2 generating stuff, big oil
etc who would seem to have the greatest lobbying power why would they be
shooting themselves in the foot?
Perhaps a reduction in usage may not actually mean a reduction in profits,
if the supply, which we know is dwindling, is to be more tightly limited?
Or perhaps there is another agenda?
It's got me baffled.
Vince